Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I, personally, am enjoying every minute of this. - Scabeh
Ill worry October 3rd. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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This means absolutely nothing.
The agent doesn't care.
Nor should he. - Atomic Wedgie
I doubt Dubas cares as well. |
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hscesq
Referee Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY Joined: 06.26.2007
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Ill worry October 3rd. - Fakepartofme
What will you do until then? |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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I, personally, am enjoying every minute of this. - Scabeh
I can't imagine why. |
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walshyleafsfan
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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Marner, Bracco and a 4th for Dumba and Zucker. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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I'd do $12 milly in the final year.
His next contract would be after a new CBA and a new US TV contract.
You qualify him at 1 year, $12 million, and then negotiate.
$12 million for a top forward in 2022-23 isn't that bad. - Atomic Wedgie
What do you think Marner is worth, realistically, right now on a 1 year deal - ignoring term and all other factors?
Is he worth $10m? If he is, with escalation based on cap increases of 2.4%, 4% and 4%, his salary ends up at $11.1m in year 4.
If he's worth $11m, then his salary ends up at 12.2m in year 4.
If he's $10.5, it's 11.6m.
I've sort of felt from the get-go that $10.5 is that top-end number that we should go to for an RFA with lots of talent and one really good year. And that is an overpayment. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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This means absolutely nothing.
The agent doesn't care.
Nor should he. - Atomic Wedgie
Well, the reason he would use Dreger as a puppet is to garner public sympathy or public outrage that the Leafs aren't being reasonable. Why else would you leak any of this to the media to begin with? Or at least keep leaking information when you've realized that it's not going to generate the public pressure that you desire.
Negativity towards Marner affects his brand and his marketability, so making him look greedy is not in the agent's nor his client's best interests. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Give them all C’s, here’s a C and there’s a C, everyone gets a C. Wouldn’t want to hurt any of these millionaires feelings.
Mitch signed yet?
FML, what are the RFA’s doing?
Wake me up when Septembers over
*goes back to bed* |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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What will you do until then? - hscesq
Live |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Live - Fakepartofme
I doubt it. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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I'd do $12 milly in the final year.
His next contract would be after a new CBA and a new US TV contract.
You qualify him at 1 year, $12 million, and then negotiate.
$12 million for a top forward in 2022-23 isn't that bad. - Atomic Wedgie
I don't disagree. I was thinking something along the lines of ...
yr 1 = 7
yr 2 = 7
yr 3 = 11.643 to match AM going forward.
That's about 3 x 8.6 AAV. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I don't disagree. I was thinking something along the lines of ...
yr 1 = 7
yr 2 = 7
yr 3 = 11.643 to match AM going forward.
That's about 3 x 8.6 AAV. - The Law
It sounds like his camp wants an AAV to what Mattews got.
Which is too high
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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It sounds like his camp wants an AAV to what Mattews got.
Which is too high - Fakepartofme
And while I don't blame him for asking I think it's too much. If the Leafs have to trade Marner because they disagree on where he sits financially within their structure then so be it. I love him but I think it'll handcuff them and make winning a championship too difficult. I'd definitely be shopping for options.
That all being said ....Ferris has an extensive history of being difficult to negotiate with until the season begins. So why note posture hard right until the final minute (and a little beyond). |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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And while I don't blame him for asking I think it's too much. If the Leafs have to trade Marner because they disagree on where he sits financially within their structure then so be it. I love him but I think it'll handcuff them and make winning a championship too difficult. I'd definitely be shopping for options.
That all being said ....Ferris has an extensive history of being difficult to negotiate with until the season begins. So why note posture hard right until the final minute (and a little beyond). - The Law
I like what Darcey Tucker said about it.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...r-contract-advice-marner/ |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Mike Kelly
@MikeKellyNHL
Auston Matthews is the best 5-on-5 goal scorer in the NHL. John Tavares saw a 4 point bump playing with Marner in Toronto last season - Marner saw a 25 point bump. There’s more to it than that but can’t blame Toronto for not offering Marner Matthews money / term.
Swap out Bozak for Tavares Last season.
Nobody can convince me that Marner is better or deserves the same or more than Matthews. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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And while I don't blame him for asking I think it's too much. If the Leafs have to trade Marner because they disagree on where he sits financially within their structure then so be it. I love him but I think it'll handcuff them and make winning a championship too difficult. I'd definitely be shopping for options.
That all being said ....Ferris has an extensive history of being difficult to negotiate with until the season begins. So why note posture hard right until the final minute (and a little beyond). - The Law
also, it we see what point and rantanen get, thats going to be interesting.
let them sign first |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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I like Rosamund Pike...the most diverse Wheel of Time? - AdamFrench
Maybe making the Two rivers folk all people of colour is meant to highlight how different Rand and the Aiel all look? Dunno. |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Swap out Bozak for Tavares Last season.
Nobody can convince me that Marner is better or deserves the same or more than Matthews. - senstroll
Agreed |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Maybe making the Two rivers folk all people of colour is meant to highlight how different Rand and the Aiel all look? Dunno. - BINGO!
Yup. I never did understand though why/how all the pale skinned red haired people lived in a desert wasteland. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Swap out Bozak for Tavares Last season.
Nobody can convince me that Marner is better or deserves the same or more than Matthews. - senstroll
That's because he's not as good as Matthews, and therefore not worth Matthews money. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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It sounds like his camp wants an AAV to what Mattews got.
Which is too high - Fakepartofme
Absolutely
I think as fans, if it’s true he’s turned down a 7x11 we can be upset about that.
Maybe it’s his agent and father giving him bad advice....
Whatever, wait until Rantanen signs. Marner can’t argue he deserves much more than him. |
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