I think GMs would prefer facts over some guy on HB who says he has more jam than Matthews
- Santo_44

Yeah, well, you’re a complete jack-ass who doesn’t understand that everyone finds him annoying.

FWIW, I know when people don’t like me.

Marner points regular season over last 3 seasons: 224
Matthews points regular season over last 3 seasons: 205

Marner points playoffs over last 3 seasons: 17
Matthews points playoffs over last 3 seasons: 13

Can you at least understand how Marner has a real point in using Matthews' contract as a comparison for his new contract?
- MaximusAurelius

Do you really think agents and GMs dumb down a comparison of players this much ?

Seriously come on

That’s the thing...if this keeps going this way I doubt a negotiation with another team goes smoother.

No team has wanted to give up 4 1sts for 3 years of marner yet
- Santo_44

Mitch has got to know that too. His options are taking Kyle’s deal, playing in Zurich or getting a paper route

Marner points regular season over last 3 seasons: 224
Matthews points regular season over last 3 seasons: 205

Marner points playoffs over last 3 seasons: 17
Matthews points playoffs over last 3 seasons: 13

Can you at least understand how Marner has a real point in using Matthews' contract as a comparison for his new contract?
- MaximusAurelius

And he kills penalties, and is on the ice at the end of the game. Oh but goals per 60 is the most important stat in hockey. Last time I checked Cosby had less goals than Ovechkin.

Yeah, well, you’re a complete jack-ass who doesn’t understand that everyone finds him annoying.

FWIW, I know when people don’t like me.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Well I’ve seen you, max and anime on here complain about useless poop...other than that I don’t see anyone doing what you three do. You all have many things in common.

And that’s cool, good for you.

And he kills penalties, and is on the ice at the end of the game. Oh but alas per 60 is the most important stat in hockey. Last time I checked Cosby had less goals than Ovechkin.
- aminnes

Omg he is on the ice at the end of the game ?!

This changes everything. Hand him 10 more million.

Good PR move by the leafs to leak these details if true.
Its had its required affect.

Do you really think agents and GMs dumb down a comparison of players this much ?

Seriously come on
- Santo_44

Who’s better, Gaudreau or Draisatil?

Kane or Malkin?

Small gifted wingers are worth every bit as much as bigger centres.. You see everything through your own lense, and lack the wherewithal to understand anyone else’s pov.

Omg he is on the ice at the end of the game ?!

This changes everything. Hand him 10 more million.
- Santo_44

You literally just said GMs don't view players so simplistically meanwhile your only arguments are goals/60 and centre. So ya, other things are important.

Does Burn have an alt?



He must.

Good PR move by the leafs to leak these details if true.
Its had its required affect.
- Fakepartofme

Agreed.

He made him look greedy as (frank).

It would be like if the Leafs offered Nylander 8x8 and he declined it. Fans would go insane.

You literally just said GMs don't view players so simplistically meanwhile your only arguments are goals/60 and centre. So ya, other things are important.
- aminnes

I look at all stats and Matthews prove to be better in many areas.

You say he is on the ice at the end of the game and kills penalties.

Good PR move by the leafs to leak these details if true.
Its had its required affect.
- Fakepartofme

If pushing Mitch further away was the desired effect, then yes.

I was hoping Strome would still be available at the draft.
- Atomic Wedgie

Coulda picked one of 15 top talents in that round and avoided this headache.

They probably wouldn't have demanded the Leafs go with 5 guys getting paid and the rest as summer casual workers like Mitch has

Does Burn have an alt?



He must.



- Garnie

Bahaha.

The guy loves to argue with everyone.

Do you really think agents and GMs dumb down a comparison of players this much ?

Seriously come on
- Santo_44

i responded to your post where you brought up 'facts'.
if you do not accept these (important) facts - can you give some examples of other that would be important to the GMs in assessing contract values?

Who’s better, Gaudreau or Draisatil?

Kane or Malkin?

Small gifted wingers are worth every bit as much as bigger centres.. You see everything through your own lense, and lack the wherewithal to understand anyone else’s pov.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I don’t just look at marner and say he is worth the money because he is a small gifted winger. Sorry.

I look at all stats and Matthews prove to be better in many areas.

You say he is on the ice at the end of the game and kills penalties.
- Santo_44

They are both better than each other in certain areas. The argument is that we can see where Mitch is coming from in terms of equal value. EQUAL value.

i responded to your post where you brought up 'facts'.
if you do not accept these (important) facts - can you give some examples of other that would be important to the GMs in assessing contract values?
- MaximusAurelius

So you are just going to ignore games played?

Ok let me try. Mathews had 4 goals in his first game how many did Marner have in his first game? Case closed.

And he kills penalties, and is on the ice at the end of the game. Oh but goals per 60 is the most important stat in hockey. Last time I checked Cosby had less goals than Ovechkin.
- aminnes

uhhh ... you do know crosby is both one of the top play-makers and goal scorers in the league, right? .

Bahaha.

The guy loves to argue with everyone.
- Fakepartofme

I enjoy to debate.

You are welcome to debate as well.

Oh sorry “argue” as you like to call it.

Agreed.

He made him look greedy as (frank).

It would be like if the Leafs offered Nylander 8x8 and he declined it. Fans would go insane.
- Santo_44

Except this has nothing to do with willie

They are both better than each other in certain areas. The argument is that we can see where Mitch is coming from in terms of equal value. EQUAL value.
- aminnes

Yeah, because he’s on the ice at the end of the game and kills penalties.

As poopty as it would be, if Marner holds out I hope he make him sit out the year and miss out on 10 million dollars.

He has made it known he doesnt want a long term contract so there won't be any threat of a team willing to make an offersheet.

Except this has nothing to do with willie
- Fakepartofme

It’s a comparison man.