Mike Augello: Will the Leafs captaincy question be answered??
- mikeinbuffalo

This is not the greatest alliteration that I’ve seen by the way
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20 million in endorsements is about 15- 17 million too high.
- Fakepartofme

You think he's only going to make $3 to $5mm over a 7 year span in endorsements?

I'd do the exact same thing.
- Scabeh

I know there is agents involved and we haven't seen the contract he will eventually sign. But imo there is a litle of the not seeing the forest for the trees.

he could make 11mil and signed it a long time ago, and be done with it... now its getting bad for Marner, fans are starting to turn. He had it made, he is the fan favorite, would make a bajillion dollars in endorsements until he dies, win a cup with the Leafs and he is the greatest alltime leaf in a lot of fans eyes.

he could do no wrong.

A lot of the people who i wouldnt expect are just saying trade him, its not worth the BS

Apparently they were offered that in June to.

Jesus, clearly Marner isn't concerned with being a lifetime leaf as much as he is draining every penny he can out of this league while he can.
- joel878

11mln per years is bs - just speculating.
Btw it is below market value for him - ckmparing with the 5y 11.6 deal for matthews.
7 years at 12.16 is the number.

11mln per years is bs - just speculating.
Btw it is below market value for him - ckmparing with the 5y 11.6 deal for matthews.
7 years at 12.16 is the number.
- MaximusAurelius

Remember when i said i get so happy when i read your comments and remember youre not in leafs management, and just another guy behind a keyboard?

Im getting that feeling again

11mln per years is bs - just speculating.
Btw it is below market value for him - ckmparing with the 5y 11.6 deal for matthews.
7 years at 12.16 is the number.
- MaximusAurelius

I am so glad you aren't the Leaf's GM.

I know there is agents involved and we haven't seen the contract he will eventually sign. But imo there is a litle of the not seeing the forest for the trees.

he could make 11mil and signed it a long time ago, and be done with it... now its getting bad for Marner, fans are starting to turn. He had it made, he is the fan favorite, would make a bajillion dollars in endorsements until he dies, win a cup with the Leafs and he is the greatest alltime leaf in a lot of fans eyes.

he could do no wrong.

A lot of the people who i wouldnt expect are just saying trade him, its not worth the BS
- senstroll

Im one of them. Marner is probably my favourite leaf. If he was offered the same contract as JT coming off his ELC and it wasn't good enough? (frank) him.

He clearly won't be happy unless he can eat as much as he can right now and demand an even more ludicrous number in 3 years.

He isn't worth the BS, he can take his chances in Arizona.

11mln per years is bs - just speculating.
Btw it is below market value for him - ckmparing with the 5y 11.6 deal for matthews.
7 years at 12.16 is the number.
- MaximusAurelius

Its not below market value, an elite centreman is not an appropriate comparable here. You may as well be saying he deserves x amount of money because that's what bobrovsky got on the open market.

You think he's only going to make $3 to $5mm over a 7 year span in endorsements?


- .HOHO.

Over a 7 span, maybe a little more than 5mm.

But its not near 20mm. Lets be honest. This isnt the nba.

I am so glad you aren't the Leaf's GM.


- .HOHO.

So we both get that same feeling!!!!

11mln per years is bs - just speculating.
Btw it is below market value for him - ckmparing with the 5y 11.6 deal for matthews.
7 years at 12.16 is the number.
- MaximusAurelius

The only way I see this being settled is with one of those contracts that takes him to his last year of RFA with the last year high in salary. He gets to negotiate his contract again down the road, gets paid now, has a high salary in the final year to ensure a strong qualifying offer and if the team can't work something out then he takes the one year and becomes a UFA. I just don't see this ending any other way. This seems to be the norm and meeting ground between teams and these high powered RFAs.

If a GM in the NHL is starting a team and gets to pick who they want....

How many take Matthews?

And how many take Marner?

My guess is it wouldn't even be close.

Over a 7 span, maybe a little more than 5mm.

But its not near 20mm. Lets be honest. This isnt the nba.
- Fakepartofme

HUH?

I would think it's between $2MM and $3MM a year....

I know there is agents involved and we haven't seen the contract he will eventually sign. But imo there is a litle of the not seeing the forest for the trees.

he could make 11mil and signed it a long time ago, and be done with it... now its getting bad for Marner, fans are starting to turn. He had it made, he is the fan favorite, would make a bajillion dollars in endorsements until he dies, win a cup with the Leafs and he is the greatest alltime leaf in a lot of fans eyes.

he could do no wrong.

A lot of the people who i wouldnt expect are just saying trade him, its not worth the BS
- senstroll

Agreed. Fans are getting frustrated.
Still time to sign and if and when he does, the minute he does an amazing play within the first 5 games, all those fans wont care about this and jump right back on the mitch train.

Over a 7 span, maybe a little more than 5mm.

But its not near 20mm. Lets be honest. This isnt the nba.
- Fakepartofme

Marner easily will get 2mln per year in endorsements

If a GM in the NHL is starting a team and gets to pick who they want....

How many take Matthews?

And how many take Marner?

My guess is it wouldn't even be close.
- .HOHO.

60/40

If a GM in the NHL is starting a team and gets to pick who they want....

How many take Matthews?

And how many take Marner?

My guess is it wouldn't even be close.
- .HOHO.

That's what these donuts suggesting Matthews is his comparable can't understand.

Elite big centreman are and have been one of the leagues unicorns. You can fill speedy play making every single summer on the open market. Big elite #1 centreman are much, much harder to find.

That's what these donuts suggesting Matthews is his comparable can't understand.

Elite big centreman are and have been one of the leagues unicorns. You can fill speedy play making every single summer on the open market. Big elite #1 centreman are much, much harder to find.
- joel878

I don't disagree with your center statement one bit, but the bold is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. How often can you really get a UFA, speedy, and skilled playmaker? There's not many of them and when they become available you have to take a number and get in line. There's almost every other team going after those guys and you can't expect them to sign with you, when they're their own person and have their own wants/needs etc. My point is that you can't really bank of them joining your team once a high end player becomes a UFA.

You think he's only going to make $3 to $5mm over a 7 year span in endorsements?


- .HOHO.

This is a rangy thing. I didn't waste much time looking, but Forbes has a list of the top 10 earning NHL players, and of those players it lists their endorsements.

Ovechkin is at $4.5m, McDavid and Crosby are at $4m, Toews is at $1.7m, Tavares is at $1.4m, Price at $600k, Kane at $350k, Benn at $100k, Kopitar at $60k . . . so there is quite a range.

I'd probably think Marner is in the $500k range in endorsement deals if he wants to be. To get into the Ovechkin, McDavid, Crosby, Toews or Tavares money range, he needs to be picked up by a Reebok or Nike as one of their national poster-boys.

That's what these donuts suggesting Matthews is his comparable can't understand.

Elite big centreman are and have been one of the leagues unicorns. You can fill speedy play making every single summer on the open market. Big elite #1 centreman are much, much harder to find.
- joel878

Just because Matthews is being used as a comparable by Marner's agent doesn't mean he deserves the same contract.

I'd take Matthews before Marner. No doubt about it.

Should Marner receive less than Matthews? I think so.

Should it MUCH less? I don't think so.

HUH?

I would think it's between $2MM and $3MM a year....
- .HOHO.

Not now he isnt. If they win a cup, quite possibly.
Crosby makes just over 4 as the top two player in the league, the face of the league for a while and 3 time cup champ.
Stamkos makes about 1.5ish

Ya i guess he could make 10mm or so iver 7 years maybe. But he could do close to that in another hockey hotbed too.

No sh!t.... He has said he wants to be a Leaf for life, yet he has said no to 7 year/ $77MM contract (plus probably around $20MM PLUS in endorsements).

He is turning down $100MM coming off his ELC.

Trade the little fu@king wiener to a SH!THOLE.


- .HOHO.

Where did this "he turned down 11 x 7" come from?

Friedman says "My belief is Toronto is willing to go to an $11-million AAV, but only if he signs for seven years"

Friedman also believed that Willie was going to be traded.

If a GM in the NHL is starting a team and gets to pick who they want....

How many take Matthews?

And how many take Marner?

My guess is it wouldn't even be close.
- .HOHO.

You start with a center.
But that has nothing to do with marners contract. So who cares.

Would love to see Rielly with the ‘C’... however, I have the feeling Matthews will bolt to AZ after this contract if he doesn’t get everything he wants so give it to him and hope he becomes a lifelong leaf...

Also, Marner for Tkachuk and a 1st...
- Hockey_Reverend

You are not getting Tkachuk and a 1st.
You might be able to make a deal straight-up or a small add on Calgary's part.

Let's not forget, the team trading for Marner has to then sign him and in the case of Tkachuk, Marner is going to cost more. As long as he is unsigned, he is also tougher to trade.

I don't disagree with your center statement one bit, but the bold is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. How often can you really get a UFA, speedy, and skilled playmaker? There's not many of them and when they become available you have to take a number and get in line. There's almost every other team going after those guys and you can't expect them to sign with you, when they're their own person and have their own wants/needs etc. My point is that you can't really bank of them joining your team once a high end player becomes a UFA.
- RickJames77

Elite? No, I'm not saying you'll find a Marner on the open market easy breezy.

I may have worded it poopty, my point is that it's an easier skillset to find, easier position to fill... and I'll stand by that all day.