will ghost still be on this roster come xmas time?

If anyone here isn’t happy with with Ivan Provorov’s new deal, my question becomes, what are the worst current deals on this team?
- SuperSchennBros

raffl. no need to sign guys of his ilk to more than 1 year. it doesn't kill you just see the need for it. especially when the possibility exist he could end up the 13th fwd at some point as early as this season.

did laughton sign for

Just so I understand this correctly... Hayes contract is bad because it’s a overpayment, some say a lot some say slight, because of what Hayes has done this far in his career after many seasons and little hope of progress a lot but provys contract is a steal because of what he MIGHT become in the future based on 1 average season 1 ok season and 1 horrible season? Makes zero sense. If you’re a flyers fan and you believe Hayes horrible contract and provy contract is a steal then you either have orange colored glasses on or aren’t too bright. Provys contract is livable at best. Just because he was played as #1 dman minutes doesn’t mean he should be paid more than he’s actually earned. AMAc was his partner... does he need to be paid like top pairing dman? Nope. Sorry but provy hasn’t played overall all 3 years combined like 6.75 mil player. Obviously they MAY be reasons for that ie partner systems goalies etc but team
Should never pay a contract on just potential. Imo from what he’s done so far he SHOULD be around 4 mil. Now if the reasons he has played the way he has is because of all these other reasons and he he takes the steps forward (and quickly) then yeah contract will be good. That’s a risk flyers willing to take. But saying this deal is a steal and just assuming it will be amazes me. I mean I hope he does progress but personally I’m not expecting a quick turnaround from him. I think he’s a little overhyped. I like him and but I think Sanheim in the next few years overall becomes valuable to team than provy. Just my opinions
- SMS4016

You make some valid points but I want to paint a picture for you here. I agree with you, at this point in time, 6.75M is an overpayment for Provorov. Werenski just signed a 3 year bridge deal for an AAV of 5M. His cap hit is currently 1.75M less than Provorov. The key to the Werenski deal is that his salary in the 3rd year of the deal is 7M. That means when Werenski goes to negotiate his next deal, that's the price point he's going to be starting at. He's a point producing offensive defenseman that tend to get paid more. Where do you think his deal goes from there? 9M?
The Flyers are taking somewhat of a risk but not much. Provorov already at his age has proven that he can handle heavy minutes and produce as a very young player. He stumbled last season, not unexpectedly. Why does last year count more than the first two seasons? The Flyers hope is that the continues to get better and better and then they have a quality NHL top pairing defenseman at a relatively cheap price. You have to make these decisions and take these risks with a salary cap in place. If Sanheim becomes a better player, that's great. You certainly need more than one really good defenseman in this league. The savings with Provoro can help pay Sanheim down the line if that happens.

will ghost still be on this roster come xmas time?
- daryl stanley

If it were me, I'd carry eight defenders. If all defenders remain healthy. Rotate Ghost and Hagg (75-25 split - play Hagg in games that may be more physical).. Rotate Myers and Morin (Start with 75-25 split, increasing Morin play time as he settles into NHL). Trade Ghost or Hagg if a good deal pops up. I'd keep Myers, regardless. And, I find out what we got in Morin, too early to even guess. If things don't look good, add him to the trade list with Ghost and Hagg.

It wouldn't be the end of the world if we held eight all season. Braunn is gone next season and Myers slides to line 2D. Leaving Ghost - Morin - Hagg as line 3D and extra.

If it were me, I'd carry eight defenders. If all defenders remain healthy. Rotate Ghost and Hagg (75-25 split - play Hagg in games that may be more physical).. Rotate Myers and Morin (Start with 75-25 split, increasing Morin play time as he settles into NHL). Trade Ghost or Hagg if a good deal pops up. I'd keep Myers, regardless. And, I find out what we got in Morin, too early to even guess. If things don't look good, add him to the trade list with Ghost and Hagg.

It wouldn't be the end of the world if we held eight all season. Braunn is gone next season and Myers slides to line 2D. Leaving Ghost - Morin - Hagg as line 3D and extra.
- leon neon

If Gostisbehere is playing well, I would never rotate him with Haag. Why? There is plenty of physicality among the other defenseman in the lineup. Skill and puck movement are paramount in today's game.

If Gostisbehere is playing well, I would never rotate him with Haag. Why? There is plenty of physicality among the other defenseman in the lineup. Skill and puck movement are paramount in today's game.
- MJL

Did that guy seriously suggest rotating Ghost and Hagg? Wow


Ghost should be in the lineup every day and twice on sundays

Satisfied with the Provorov deal. Initially saw the AAV and stomach dropped, but with a 6 year term I sighed with relief. Hopefully he bounces back to his second season and improves from there.

Camp hasn't even started yet, and Patrick is already injured.

Hometown discount Waldo. 30 points -16 should be worth in excess of 8+ million AAV.
- PLindbergh31

Yea, Doughty -34 and 11 million AAV 👍 🤡 🤡 🤡

Patrick with upper body injury not cleared for practice and were off

Camp hasn't even started yet, and Patrick is already injured.
- PLindbergh31

They haven’t even said what the injury is and you’re already complaining about it.

Satisfied with the Provorov deal. Initially saw the AAV and stomach dropped, but with a 6 year term I sighed with relief. Hopefully he bounces back to his second season and improves from there.
- Glak18

Even at his worst he is better than the 5 mill man A Mac.

They haven’t even said what the injury is and you’re already complaining about it.
- Baxter27

Another female genitaliacussion? He is soon finished than. 🥵

Satisfied with the Provorov deal. Initially saw the AAV and stomach dropped, but with a 6 year term I sighed with relief. Hopefully he bounces back to his second season and improves from there.
- Glak18

Beginning of the off season I thought 6.5 x 6 was the fair deal so I’m glad they settled near it.

They haven’t even said what the injury is and you’re already complaining about it.
- Baxter27

He's injured before camp has begun.
At what point do you become concerned that he's made of glass?

If Gostisbehere is playing well, I would never rotate him with Haag. Why? There is plenty of physicality among the other defenseman in the lineup. Skill and puck movement are paramount in today's game.
- MJL

The team is pretty soft. "plenty of physicality" is debatable - I say no. Hagg brings more of an edge, and is frankly a better at defending. Ghost was a -20 last year and Hagg -3 with similar ice time (1500 to 1400). I like Hagg's 258 to Ghost's 46 hits. There is something to be said about wearing down the opposing fowards. Hagg isn't the best puck mover, but he isn't below average. I'd say we had plenty of puck movers, more than physicality. And, Yes, Ghost is more skilled offensively. But, if Ghost is having a similar year as last year, it wouldn't hurt to sit him now and then. Sure, he'd be missed on the PP. But, we've got others that can fill that gap. To sum this up... If there's talk of trading Ghost or Ghost will be gone by Dec... Why not play others in his spot for a few games.

The team is pretty soft. "plenty of physicality" is debatable - I say no. Hagg brings more of an edge, and is frankly a better at defending. Ghost was a -20 last year and Hagg -3 with similar ice time (1500 to 1400). I like Hagg's 258 to Ghost's 46 hits. There is something to be said about wearing down the opposing fowards. Hagg isn't the best puck mover, but he isn't below average. I'd say we had plenty of puck movers, more than physicality. And, Yes, Ghost is more skilled offensively. But, if Ghost is having a similar year as last year, it wouldn't hurt to sit him now and then. Sure, he'd be missed on the PP. But, we've got others that can fill that gap. To sum this up... If there's talk of trading Ghost or Ghost will be gone by Dec... Why not play others in his spot for a few games.
- leon neon

Oh man there's so much wrong here

The team is pretty soft. "plenty of physicality" is debatable - I say no. Hagg brings more of an edge, and is frankly a better at defending. Ghost was a -20 last year and Hagg -3 with similar ice time (1500 to 1400). I like Hagg's 258 to Ghost's 46 hits. There is something to be said about wearing down the opposing fowards. Hagg isn't the best puck mover, but he isn't below average. I'd say we had plenty of puck movers, more than physicality. And, Yes, Ghost is more skilled offensively. But, if Ghost is having a similar year as last year, it wouldn't hurt to sit him now and then. Sure, he'd be missed on the PP. But, we've got others that can fill that gap. To sum this up... If there's talk of trading Ghost or Ghost will be gone by Dec... Why not play others in his spot for a few games.
- leon neon

I stated in my reply if Gostisbehere is playing well. If he is and you didn't place any qualifiers in your original post then suggesting rotating him and Haag regardless of the game ratio is absurd. The fact that part of your premise involves what the "talk" is, is more absurd.

Did that guy seriously suggest rotating Ghost and Hagg? Wow


Ghost should be in the lineup every day and twice on sundays
- bulet13

The direction of the team is to decrease goals against... And, first place goes to Ghost with his +/- at -20. He is a big piece of why pucks are in the back of our net. His offensive skill is not balancing out his defensive liabilities. If he starts off slow offensively (like he played last season), we can't do any worse with some one else in at line 3 D.

Camp hasn't even started yet, and Patrick is already injured.
- PLindbergh31

The direction of the team is to decrease goals against... And, first place goes to Ghost with his +/- at -20. He is a big piece of why pucks are in the back of our net. His offensive skill is not balancing out his defensive liabilities. If he starts off slow offensively (like he played last season), we can't do any worse with some one else in at line 3 D.
- leon neon

In today's NHl, the best way to prevent goals is to go on the attack. Play in the other teams end more. When you're defending, no matter how well you do it, you're still losing.

I stated in my reply if Gostisbehere is playing well. If he is and you didn't place any qualifiers in your original post then suggesting rotating him and Haag regardless of the game ratio is absurd. The fact that part of your premise involves what the "talk" is, is more absurd.
- MJL

Sure, it goes without saying that if he plays like an all-star we shouldn't sit him. What type of qualifiers do you need? I'm going on his most recent play - as we all should... By all accounts, Ghost had a terrible last season. Until he proves different, that's what we have to base his game at.

Why exactly is it absurd to give more experience to the future of the team, if Ghost is on the trading block. Sure you have to show case him to get value, but I never suggested sitting him for an extended time.

In today's NHl, the best way to prevent goals is to go on the attack. Play in the other teams end more. When you're defending, no matter how well you do it, you're still losing.
- MJL

“defense wins championships”

Sure, it goes without saying that if he plays like an all-star we shouldn't sit him. What type of qualifiers do you need? I'm going on his most recent play - as we all should... By all accounts, Ghost had a terrible last season. Until he proves different, that's what we have to base his game at.

Why exactly is it absurd to give more experience to the future of the team, if Ghost is on the trading block. Sure you have to show case him to get value, but I never suggested sitting him for an extended time.
- leon neon

You keep talking about Gostisbehere on the trading block? Who told you that? Where are you getting this info from? Provorov had a bad year last year also

There is no spin that you can put on this.

“defense wins championships”
- leon neon

Weak.