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underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 13 @ 7:31 PM ET
I agree. I'd take all of them at their cap hits for max 8 year deals. But these guys want to be UFAs and come back to the table again ASAP. Especially if they win awards and/or Cups.

Barrie is going to want 8 and he's not worth it. Rielly will want the same or more and he will be worth it.

Interesting note from theScore; Drew Doughty doesn't seem happy in LA anymore. Said the team has been poop since they last won the Cup. He's basically wasted 4 years of his prime and maybe if they suck again this year he asks for a deal. Would you rather have Barrie at 8 or Doughty? Enter Nylander, plus some significant sweeteners and the Leafs might have the ingredients to make a serious move to fill the last hole on their team.

- JohnFergusonJr


Not gonna lie, your post usually fall a little too negative for me....they pretty much suck.....................BUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTT....

Don't mind that one at all!!!
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Sep 13 @ 7:31 PM ET
Meh,

As much as people wanna pissy and moan about the cost of players this is pretty much what I thought we'd wind up with. I doubt he regresses in point totals. He's healthy. His prime(22-28, because that's a player's prime in the modern NHL nowadays) is ours.

Let's see what we can do.

If we wanna freak about contracts, now it's Reilly in a couple years. I bet they let Andersen walk unless the new TV deal and expansion shoots the cap up by 10m. Hope Scott or Woll will be ready.

Now let's see what this team can do.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:32 PM ET

By the way, the resident Hab fan, Scabeh picked 10.895x6.

By Price is Right rules, though, he's over, and his prediction is completely worthless.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 13 @ 7:32 PM ET
Really? Since the leak not even a full week has gone by and all of a sudden he signs???

22 year old kid hearing all the hate...."(frank) this, I don't need and extra $500k and one less year. I'm signing."

Don't kid yourself, he could have held out. You could easily make the argument that his dad and agent probably wanted him to hold out longer.

Public opinion matters to some...ie: endorsements, etc.

- underhill14


Held out and done what? He had to sign by opening or sit or go to Zurich. If was going to play, then don’t miss any training camp.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 13 @ 7:33 PM ET
Really? Since the leak not even a full week has gone by and all of a sudden he signs???

22 year old kid hearing all the hate...."(frank) this, I don't need and extra $500k and one less year. I'm signing."

Don't kid yourself, he could have held out. You could easily make the argument that his dad and agent probably wanted him to hold out longer.

Public opinion matters to some...ie: endorsements, etc.

- underhill14


All correct - plus he wants to play and win here.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:33 PM ET
Doughty makes 11, but yeah between the two, Doughty is on a whole other level.
- 13sundin13


Should be their #1 target if possible.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:34 PM ET
Meh,

As much as people wanna piss and moan about the cost of players this is pretty much what I thought we'd win up with. I doubt he regresses in point totals. He's healthy. His prime(22-28, because that's a player's prime in the modern NHL nowadays) is ours.

Let's see what we can do.

If we wanna freak about contracts, now it's Reilly in a couple years. I bet they let Andersen walk unless the new TV deal and expansion shoots the cap up by 10m. Hope Scott or Woll will be ready.

Now let's see what this team can do.

- AngryWhiteMale


I don't like you.



But I agree.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
Held out and done what? He had to sign by opening or sit or go to Zurich. If was going to play, then don’t miss any training camp.
- Canada Cup


Missing a day of training camp, is less than missing a day of frosh week
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
Should be their #1 target if possible.
- JohnFergusonJr

Would love Doughty on the Leafs but 44 million tied up in 4 players would be really tough to work with.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:36 PM ET
Again, guess we’ll see. Don’t blame me for not wanting to jump the gun with saying he’ll be this and that.
- RafiDRW

Both Marner and JT would have to be off, I think. It could happen I guess...but not likely.
Marner drives the play and creates so much on his own - something JT had to do in the past. Now all JT has to do is get to the front of the net - he can play another 10 years easy...lol. JT Andreychuk.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:37 PM ET
By the way, the resident Hab fan, Scabeh picked 10.895x6.

By Price is Right rules, though, he's over, and his prediction is completely worthless.

- Monkeypunk

Lol perfect!

Also marner is getting paid 4 million a year more then nylander.

Nylander might end up being the steal of the trio as far as points per dollar goes.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 13 @ 7:38 PM ET
Missing a day of training camp, is less than missing a day of frosh week
- winsix


If he was happy with deal or thought he couldn’t get anything better, why miss camp?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:38 PM ET
Would love Doughty on the Leafs but 44 million tied up in 4 players would be really tough to work with.
- 13sundin13


I'd usually agree with that idea but if those players are the best in the league at what they do, how could you resist? Especially if one of them is literally the last major puzzle piece?

We've seen the Leafs move 1st rounders to dump bad deals and acquire marginal players. Let's seem them use some picks, prospects and Nylander to land that Doughty and really start going for the Cup.

Remember, we gotta compete with Tampa Bay every year.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 13 @ 7:38 PM ET
4 million more than willy. That's nuts

The stars didn't leave much money to fill out the rest of the team.

Anyways. They will win the cup this season. So I don't care
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:38 PM ET
Both Marner and JT would have to be off, I think. It could happen I guess...but not likely.
Marner drives the play and creates so much on his own - something JT had to do in the past. Now all JT has to do is get to the front of the net - he can play another 10 years easy...lol. JT Andreychuk.

- Woderwick

I don't like you


But I agree.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
Who wouldn’t want to live in a city with this?


- RafiDRW

Fisterville?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
Cody Ceci turned the puck over on 16.4% of his defensive zone possessions last season. That ranked him 232nd out of 272 qualified defenceman.
- JohnFergusonJr

Who cares, 5 guys on the ice with him. None of them are here now. They’ll be just fine....if not he’ll get shuffled down the lineup.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
I don't like you


But I agree.

- UsernameUnknown

Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
4 million more than willy. That's nuts

The stars didn't leave much money to fill out the rest of the team.

Anyways. They will win the cup this season. So I don't care

- senstroll


Pay your stars
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
I'd usually agree with that idea but if those players are the best in the league at what they do, how could you resist? Especially if one of them is literally the last major puzzle piece?

We've seen the Leafs move 1st rounders to dump bad deals and acquire marginal players. Let's seem them use some picks, prospects and Nylander to land that Doughty and really start going for the Cup.

Remember, we gotta compete with Tampa Bay every year.

- JohnFergusonJr


Brutal

Young nylander+++ for almost 30yr old doughty

Noooo
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Sep 13 @ 7:40 PM ET
so folks, what do you think of the deal????
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:40 PM ET

- Woderwick


I'm just (frank)ing with you.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:41 PM ET
so folks, what do you think of the deal????
- mikeinbuffalo


Just glad it's done.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:41 PM ET
so folks, what do you think of the deal????
- mikeinbuffalo


Too high Mike. Absolutely too high. But absolutely manageable. So it's perfect. Absolutely perfect, Mike.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 13 @ 7:41 PM ET
Well he got 94 as a 21 year old... again hes not in his prime yet.
- Gunslinger


And kucherov got 120 pts at 9.5 million.

Marner is already overpaid
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