Or he could've signed the same or better deal in June, July, August, first half of September...but didn't until a few days after the leak. Hmmmmm?!

Either way, don't really give a poop, just glad it's done and it's a decent deal.


Let's play some fu3king hockey boys!!!!!!
- underhill14

Agree no biggie but he still had options in June. Go Leafs go

Brutal

Young nylander+++ for almost 30yr old doughty

Noooo
- Gunslinger

Ya, we don’t need to regress and start picking up guys past their prime. I like Doughty, but I’d aim for a younger guy IF they’re going to trade Willie and let Barrie / Muzzin walk.

Scabeh guessed the closest AAV with 8x10.895

Peter21 guessed 6x10.6

So you decide a winner idk..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Like Gunslinger said, I'd give Peter the win. Got the years and supposedly it's just under 11m, so he's only off by a few hundred k. If it was 8 years it'd probably be another mil or two.

The Nylander trade countdown has officially started...
- 13sundin13

He has to play very well before that countdown can officially begin.

If he gets shuffled down the lineup, who takes over as top pair RHD?

If he sucks, it'll be a big problem.
- JohnFergusonJr

Meh, we finished with 106 points and 100 points with Hainsey.

Pretty sure we can figure something out, Dermott will be back...they’ll figure something out.

Ya, we don’t need to regress and start picking up guys past their prime. I like Doughty, but I’d aim for a younger guy IF they’re going to trade Willie and let Barrie / Muzzin walk.
- Garnie

Won't find any available.

Ideally, sure, you want a young guy, cheap, Norris winner but it's the availability that's the issue. That's why I bring up Doughty because his availability may increase if his team continues to suck, which it's a good chance they will.

Everybody UFA all at the same time...

Nah. Maybe 3 years ago. At almost 30 not the right fit.
- Gunslinger

Agree. Turns 30 in December - not what he was, not even close - seriously overpaid scored 29 points. One of the main reasons LA will be in the Lafreniere sweepstakes is the number of horrible contracts they have. A good team might be able to get away with one or even two, but they have like 6 or 7

Scabeh guessed the closest AAV with 8x10.895

Peter21 guessed 6x10.6

So you decide a winner idk..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I had Scabeh at 6 years; I also had Tumbleweed at 6x10.716

Won't find any available.

Ideally, sure, you want a young guy, cheap, Norris winner but it's the availability that's the issue. That's why I bring up Doughty because his availability may increase if his team continues to suck, which it's a good chance they will.
- JohnFergusonJr

As he ages, he may begin to suck. Haven’t watched him for awhile myself.

Should I go look at his Caresi?

15.1 million to sign 5 defensemen next season.

That's gonna be rough.
- JohnFergusonJr

We can hope the cap doubles.

I had Scabeh at 6 years; I also had Tumbleweed at 6x10.716
- Monkeypunk

Ya well he kept changing his mind after I already chartted him. Idk about tumbleweed.. probably same sitch.

15.1 million to sign 5 defensemen next season.

That's gonna be rough.
- JohnFergusonJr

Oh no! It's already started!

Oh no! It's already started!
- Thecakeisalie

yep

15.1 million to sign 5 defensemen next season.

That's gonna be rough.
- JohnFergusonJr

It will go up a couple mill

Liljegren .860
Sandin .894
Dermott 1.5
Barrie 7
Muzzin 7

As he ages, he may begin to suck. Haven’t watched him for awhile myself.

Should I go look at his Caresi?
- Garnie

I seriously doubt it. There's plenty of examples of Norris winning level D that kept playing at a high level well through their 30s and up to 40s.

Let's also remember, Barrie is 28 himself. If he's going to be demanding 8 AAV, why not get a way better player that is only 1 year older?

Worst than predicted. I expected 10.5 x 8.

He signs for 10.8 x 6. Rough for the Leafs.

It will go up a couple mill

Liljegren .860
Sandin .894
Dermott 1.5
Barrie 7
Muzzin 7
- nbboy

Muzzin at 7?

That's disgusting.

Worst than predicted. I expected 10.5 x 8.

He signs for 10.8 x 6. Rough for the Leafs.
- RedRevenge

Sure

such a gross deal

will handicap the Leafs ability to be better

Muzzin at 7?

That's disgusting.
- JohnFergusonJr

ok 6

I seriously doubt it. There's plenty of examples of Norris winning level D that kept playing at a high level well through their 30s and up to 40s.

Let's also remember, Barrie is 28 himself. If he's going to be demanding 8 AAV, why not get a way better player that is only 1 year older?
- JohnFergusonJr

I doubt we get Doughty or keep Barrie is my guess.

Won't find any available.

Ideally, sure, you want a young guy, cheap, Norris winner but it's the availability that's the issue. That's why I bring up Doughty because his availability may increase if his team continues to suck, which it's a good chance they will.
- JohnFergusonJr

Pretty sure we already got our "younger guy available" when we got Barrie.

I doubt we go for another big name like Doughty at this point. Just need someone slightly reliable to stay back when Rielly rushes. I know that's probably not Ceci. Maybe Dubas is expecting someone like Lilybust to eventually take that spot when they're ready and Ceci is a stopgap? I dunno.

ok 6
- nbboy

Still kinda gross.