Muzzin at 7?

That's disgusting.
- JohnFergusonJr

7’s not bad, but it would need to be short term. He’ll sign somewhere else too - more money and term will be offered.

He’s going to have a good year I predict.

is Marner a UFA at the end of the deal?

also, how many of his assists were secondary assists?

Awesome deal for both. Win now!!

It will go up a couple mill

Liljegren .860
Sandin .894
Dermott 1.5
Barrie 7
Muzzin 7
- nbboy

It's possible I overvalue him a bit, but I find it hard to believe Dermott only gets 1.5m.

Pretty sure we already got our "younger guy available" when we got Barrie.

I doubt we go for another big name like Doughty at this point. Just need someone slightly reliable to stay back when Rielly rushes. I know that's probably not Ceci. Maybe Dubas is expecting someone like Lilybust to eventually take that spot when they're ready and Ceci is a stopgap? I dunno.
- Thecakeisalie

Not really. He's not that much younger and nowhere near as good.

And I'm not talking about making that deal right now. I'm talking about making it for next year.

If the Leafs are going to have big money tied up long term on the blueline, I'd rather it be with a legit player like Doughty than Barrie, even if it means giving something up to get it.

7’s not bad, but it would need to be short term. He’ll sign somewhere else too - more money and term will be offered.

He’s going to have a good year I predict.
- Garnie

This is the biggest worry I have with Muzzin. He's what, 30 now? I don't know how well his game will hold up in his late 30's, so I'd be pretty concerned if we signed him for more than 4 or 5 years, but he's probably gonna want as much term as possible on his next deal, so he'd probably want more per year if he signs a shorter term.

so marner is UFA @ the end

& of marner's 64 assists, 52 were primary, so that's good

Not really. He's not that much younger and nowhere near as good.

And I'm not talking about making that deal right now. I'm talking about making it for next year.

If the Leafs are going to have big money tied up long term on the blueline, I'd rather it be with a legit player like Doughty than Barrie, even if it means giving something up to get it.
- JohnFergusonJr

Huh, only a year apart. Yeah, i thought Barrie was several years younger.

Apparently, According to Eklund "You don't currently have any friends."

My Life.

It's possible I overvalue him a bit, but I find it hard to believe Dermott only gets 1.5m.
- Thecakeisalie

Yeah I don't know, just saying roughly. Its not all doom and gloom like UG says.

so marner is UFA @ the end

& of marner's 64 assists, 52 were primary, so that's good
- twiztedmike

Yeah, but the odds of him doing it again are very slim. Only like 3 guys in the last 20 something years have had a primary assist rate that high in multiple seasons.

Well y'all had a good run.

Yeah I don't know, just saying roughly. Its not all doom and gloom like UG says.
- nbboy

It's all doom and gloom.

And paper cuts to our foreskins.

Huh, only a year apart. Yeah, i thought Barrie was several years younger.
- Thecakeisalie

That's why I was saying, if the Leafs are going to move Nylander to open cap space to spend on the blueline, I'd rather they move him in a deal to get a legit guy instead of just spending that money on Barrie and/or Muzzin.

15.1 million to sign 5 defensemen next season.

That's gonna be rough.
- JohnFergusonJr

You have to presume Dermott, Sandin and Liljegren are gonna be 3 of those 5. So about 10 mil to sign 2 dmen.

Not exactly Rubik Cube level is it?

So Rantanen and Point sign for 9 x 8 yet?

Well y'all had a good run.
- BINGO!

thanks BINGO

maybe in 20 years we can do another rebuild, not win, and then overpay every greedy player that overperformed

So Rantanen and Point sign for 9 x 8 yet?
- The Law

Leafs caved , if they get both less it would be awful.

thanks BINGO

maybe in 20 years we can do another rebuild, not win, and then overpay every greedy player that overperformed
- twiztedmike

I get why they had to do it, but man, it's gonna be rough to try to win after this season again for a couple years.

Leafs caved , if they get both less it would be awful.
- Archaic

LeBrun says Tampa's last offer to Point was only $5.7 million per.

Lol and the Habs went after Aho.

You have to presume Dermott, Sandin and Liljegren are gonna be 3 of those 5. So about 10 mil to sign 2 dmen.

Not exactly Rubik Cube level is it?
- walshyleafsfan

To sign just anybody, that's easy. To fill the blueline with high quality defense, that's not so easy.

LeBrun says Tampa's last offer to Point was only $5.7 million per.

Lol and the Habs went after Aho.
- BINGO!

fck we shoulda traded marner and offersheeted point

Leafs caved , if they get both less it would be awful.
- Archaic

Meh, more then I thought but all my guesses have been low. Basically it looks like he got 6 x 10 plus his unpaid rookie bonuses.

This is the biggest worry I have with Muzzin. He's what, 30 now? I don't know how well his game will hold up in his late 30's, so I'd be pretty concerned if we signed him for more than 4 or 5 years, but he's probably gonna want as much term as possible on his next deal, so he'd probably want more per year if he signs a shorter term.
- Thecakeisalie

We heard about how great his analytics were and then he came here and I was omygerd he’s slow. He’s pretty good with the puck for the most part but I’d be worried about him long term. Weird all those LA guys with the great analytics a few years back haven’t turned into Gretzkys.

LeBrun says Tampa's last offer to Point was only $5.7 million per.

Lol and the Habs went after Aho.
- BINGO!

Bergervin should have just kept firing IMO