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ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 15 @ 4:42 PM ET
I think the on camera and international attention is why the suspension occurred.
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Sep 15 @ 5:11 PM ET
I'd wait and see what wonder boy Dubas does with the $13 million he has to get rid of off the cap before anointing him and the Leafs the greatest cap team of all time, whatever the hell that means.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
Anyone who loves hockey can't wait to watch ANY form of hockey after the summer, pre-season or otherwise.
- rrentz


I can't wait to see my favorite posters here , and hell, on a very(!) cold&windy day i might even appreciate what Mr. Tanner has to say...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
I'd wait and see what wonder boy Dubas does with the $13 million he has to get rid of off the cap before anointing him and the Leafs the greatest cap team of all time, whatever the hell that means.
- duxcup07


That's already been done.
gramps
Location: Chandler, AZ
Joined: 10.10.2006

Sep 15 @ 5:48 PM ET
That's already been done.
- MJL


I want to know what the leafs are going to do if injuries occur and they can't LTE them.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 15 @ 5:50 PM ET
I want to know what the leafs are going to do if injuries occur and they can't LTE them.
- gramps


We'll have to see what the final makeup of their roster is.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Sep 15 @ 6:11 PM ET
I want to know what the leafs are going to do if injuries occur and they can't LTE them.
- gramps


They will play their 13th forward or 7th D who otherwise would be sitting in the press box. Next.
gramps
Location: Chandler, AZ
Joined: 10.10.2006

Sep 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
They will play their 13th forward or 7th D who otherwise would be sitting in the press box. Next.
- Njuice



And if they have multiple injuries. Next
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Sep 15 @ 6:52 PM ET
And if they have multiple injuries. Next
- gramps


that will happen at one point in the season. you don['t need to worry about it. they will bring up a Marlie. No stress.
gramps
Location: Chandler, AZ
Joined: 10.10.2006

Sep 15 @ 7:00 PM ET
that will happen at one point in the season. you don
- Njuice['t need to worry about it. they will bring up a Marlie. No stress.


But they won't have the cap space to do it and when Hyman comes off
LTE they need to free up $2.2+ million.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Sep 15 @ 7:32 PM ET
But they won't have the cap space to do it and when Hyman comes off
LTE they need to free up $2.2+ million.

- gramps


nope, but fwds 11-13 and d #6 and #7 have to be on tiny contracts. The cap gets added up game by game, so they save a couple hundred G's while hyman is out.

It's possible that the Leafs only carry 21 players or even 20 instead of the usual 22-23 especially if they and the Marlies are both at home.

It's going to be super tight with no wiggle room at all but they will be able to manage.
gramps
Location: Chandler, AZ
Joined: 10.10.2006

Sep 15 @ 7:49 PM ET
nope, but fwds 11-13 and d #6 and #7 have to be on tiny contracts. The cap gets added up game by game, so they save a couple hundred G's while hyman is out.

It's possible that the Leafs only carry 21 players or even 20 instead of the usual 22-23 especially if they and the Marlies are both at home.

It's going to be super tight with no wiggle room at all but they will be able to manage.

- Njuice



Been there with the Blackhawks, shuttling players in and out, but they weren't in this deep with someone coming off LTE.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lawless Soldier of The Devil, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 15 @ 7:49 PM ET
Kuznetsoz doesn't do cocaine he just likes the smell of it.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Sep 15 @ 7:56 PM ET
Been there with the Blackhawks, shuttling players in and out, but they weren't in this deep with someone coming off LTE.
- gramps


Healthy and with 22 players I have them needing to find 460k of cap space. Hymans injury gets them 192k if he misses exactly the 12 games they reported today. They need to save about 270k shuttling players. It's not ideal, but it's very doable. I'm not concerned about it.

One LT injury to a player with salary solves the entire problem...hopefully it won't be Matthews this year goddamnit!
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 15 @ 9:14 PM ET
Color me naive, but when I watch finely-tuned athletes competing for 80-100 games a season at a physical level most humans can only dream about, I doubt there is a widespread (one word) cocaine culture in the league....
- doublechili


You're naive.

NHL players love themselves some yayo.
doublechili
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

Sep 15 @ 11:51 PM ET
You're naive.

NHL players love themselves some yayo.

- Wetbandit1


You're basing that on?
Gertner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.04.2017

Sep 16 @ 12:16 AM ET
Remember that time James got owned by Bill Meltzer in his own blog?
gramps
Location: Chandler, AZ
Joined: 10.10.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:45 AM ET
Remember that time James got owned by Bill Meltzer in his own blog?
- Gertner



Didn't he mention/hint to it it in this blog.
Bob_Loblaw
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.17.2011

Sep 16 @ 12:56 AM ET
Favorite song? Pneuma or Invincible?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 16 @ 2:55 AM ET
You're basing that on?
- doublechili


The players caught with it, and many, many more rumors besides. Just off the top of my head. Stoll, Ryan Malone, and Kuznetsov who were actually caught. Myers, Bogosian, Byfuglien, both Kane's(must be something in the water in Winnipeg).

Also this from 4 years ago:

https://www.tsn.ca/on-eve...rs-using-cocaine-1.372075

Edit: https://www.habseyesonthe...-magnus-nystrom-anonymous

https://www.thesportster....cause-of-substance-abuse/

Really, just google "nhl players cocaine" and you'll get a ton of hits.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 16 @ 6:49 AM ET
Charts show keller is bad: "This contract is a steal!"

Charts show Provy is bad: "Terrible contract!"
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 16 @ 6:52 AM ET
I assume the Lesfs should have no problem beating the record for points in a season since they are the best team ever assembled in the cap era
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 8:04 AM ET
The players caught with it, and many, many more rumors besides. Just off the top of my head. Stoll, Ryan Malone, and Kuznetsov who were actually caught. Myers, Bogosian, Byfuglien, both Kane's(must be something in the water in Winnipeg).

Also this from 4 years ago:

https://www.tsn.ca/on-eve...rs-using-cocaine-1.372075

Edit: https://www.habseyesonthe...-magnus-nystrom-anonymous

https://www.thesportster....cause-of-substance-abuse/

Really, just google "nhl players cocaine" and you'll get a ton of hits.

- Wetbandit1


None of that is proof of what you're insinuating. There are over 600 NHL players.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 16 @ 5:00 PM ET
None of that is proof of what you're insinuating. There are over 600 NHL players.
- MJL


Proof? No, there's no indisputable proof, and the only way to get that is to do blow with all the players, or test every player every couple of days. But there's a mountain of circumstantial and testimonial evidence. The NHL doesn't care, so players will continue doing it. It's not like the NHL's USADA and the players have to give testers their schedule and be able to do a test within an hour of the call 24/7. They weren't even going to suspend Kuznetsov with a picture/video -I can't remember which- of him sitting next to a few lines. They "bought" his story that he got out of that den of filth as quickly as he could. It wasn't until after he tested positive for the IIHF, and even then it took a while.

I also never said that every player does it, that would be stupid.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 5:04 PM ET
Proof? No, there's no indisputable proof, and the only way to get that is to do blow with all the players, or test every player every couple of days. But there's a mountain of circumstantial and testimonial evidence. The NHL doesn't care, so players will continue doing it. It's not like the NHL's USADA and the players have to give testers their schedule and be able to do a test within an hour of the call 24/7. They weren't even going to suspend Kuznetsov with a picture/video -I can't remember which- of him sitting next to a few lines. They "bought" his story that he got out of that den of filth as quickly as he could. It wasn't until after he tested positive for the IIHF, and even then it took a while.

I also never said that every player does it, that would be stupid.

- Wetbandit1


Hockey players are a cross section of life. Of course there are some players doing drugs. I'm sure there's a few who have drinking problems. Emotional problems, mental problems, etc.

If there is a mountain of circumstantial and testimonial evidence, why can't you provide it. What you linked previously fell well short of the mark.


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