ClaudeFather
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Maybe. - Landsbergfan
Your picture thing disturbs me for some reason |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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It's possible of course, it's also possible that some of these kids won't be ready next year to take the leap. Who do we have in the system that are like as far along in their evolution as say, a Sanheim or Myers, currently in the system? I don't think York will be ready, I don't think Friedman is an NHL defenseman (could be wrong), I don't think Zamula will be ready next year, and none of the other notable defensemen in the system, Millman, Wylie, Wilcox, etc., do I think will be ready. Morin and Hagg will also be in the conversation next year (at least I expect them to be), so if they appear to be able to bring more to the table than Braun then I'm all for them being on the team. - sjk540
There are many facets to this but I was looking at the players who are already in the NHL. Let's face it, both Niskanen and Braun are going to be taking away ice time from younger players. There are both good and bad things about that. What we know for sure is that Niskanen and Braun are not the future, they're part of now.
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sjk540
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Location: Hoboken, NJ Joined: 01.28.2016
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that's what i'm thinking, may put some $$ on them to win the Metro. - ClaudeFather
haha, i may also |
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Landsbergfan
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Location: Gävle, Sweden Joined: 07.15.2014
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Your picture thing disturbs me for some reason - ClaudeFather
I guess you were a “Foppa” fan back in the days. 😳 |
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sjk540
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Location: Hoboken, NJ Joined: 01.28.2016
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There are many facets to this but I was looking at the players who are already in the NHL. Let's face it, both Niskanen and Braun are going to be taking away ice time from younger players. There are both good and bad things about that. What we know for sure is that Niskanen and Braun are not the future, they're part of now. - MJL
They are taking away ice time from younger players, this is true, but if we don't have any young players who are capable of showing they are ready in camp or in whatever league they end up in, then putting them in the NHL just because they are younger doesn't make sense to me. If they are clearly ready, or are even improved moving forward, then I would agree that they should be given the opportunity to win a spot over an incumbent veteran who may not be apart of our future. |
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opeth_pa
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Well trading picks, kinda is trading prospects.
Trading for Braun is unnecessary. We could potentially trade a young Robert Hagg in favor of an old Justin Braun who will likely only be here two seasons and wasn’t great himself last season. - SuperSchennBros
I don't agree with the first part.
Frost, Farabee and others are prospects and to me they are more of a known vs a pick. |
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Dkos
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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There are many facets to this but I was looking at the players who are already in the NHL. Let's face it, both Niskanen and Braun are going to be taking away ice time from younger players. There are both good and bad things about that. What we know for sure is that Niskanen and Braun are not the future, they're part of now. - MJL
...and Gudas and AMac wouldn’t be taking ice time from younger players? It seems clear (and understandable) that the team wants to pair a young player with a veteran on D. To me Niskanen and Braun are upgrades. I don’t really understand your concern about them taking ice time away from the young guys. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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why two seasons? he's only signed for this year. if it was longer i could maybe understand, but after this season his cap hit disappears and so does gudas's salary retention. unless they re-sign braun, but i'm not counting on that. - Ftown19125
My apologies, I thought Braun had two seasons but the point of trade a young player to play Braun for one season sounds worse. |
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opeth_pa
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Tk contract thoughts... - SMS4016
See the last few pages.
Glad it is over, not horrible, Slight overpay |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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...and Gudas and AMac wouldn’t be taking ice time from younger players? It seems clear (and understandable) that the team wants to pair a young player with a veteran on D. To me Niskanen and Braun are upgrades. I don’t really understand your concern about them taking ice time away from the young guys. - Dkos
MacDonald no, if he remained here, he was either going to be a veteran 7th or sent to the AHL. Gudas yes. As I said previously numerous times, I do believe that you have to have some veteran presence on the defense. Sending out all young guys has disaster written all over it. I personally felt that adding Niskanen was enough. I would not have bought out MacDonald to add Braun.
The concern is simple. Young players get better by playing. How is Morin going to get playing time? Or Haag? Is Gostisbehere going to see less playing time? Do you think that Niskanen and Braun are key additions that will push the team towards cup contention or are the young players the key to that?
What do you want for the team? Just to be an improved playoff team or to become one of the best team's in the league with a core group to contend over a significant period and have the window open for as long as possible?
Is adding Braun for one year going to pay off with a level of success for the team that will offset the loss of development time and experienced gained for younger players that could help the team for the future? |
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Dkos
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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MacDonald no, if he remained here, he was either going to be a veteran 7th or sent to the AHL. Gudas yes. As I said previously numerous times, I do believe that you have to have some veteran presence on the defense. Sending out all young guys has disaster written all over it. I personally felt that adding Niskanen was enough. I would not have bought out MacDonald to add Braun.
The concern is simple. Young players get better by playing. How is Morin going to get playing time? Or Haag? Is Gostisbehere going to see less playing time? Do you think that Niskanen and Braun are key additions that will push the team towards cup contention or are the young players the key to that?
What do you want for the team? Just to be an improved playoff team or to become one of the best team's in the league with a core group to contend over a significant period and have the window open for as long as possible?
Is adding Braun for one year going to pay off with a level of success for the team that will offset the loss of development time and experienced gained for younger players that could help the team for the future? - MJL
If they weren’t going to play AMac then they needed another veteran thus Braun. I think having solid veteran guys will help the young guys improve. |
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Hextall271
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Location: Hart-Land, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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It’s a bit much. Thought 6 yrs x 5 mil would’ve done it. Oh well not terrible - Just5
Yeah. I'm just seeing it now. Glad he's back in the fold. It's a bit higher than it thought but I'm glad it's done. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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If they weren’t going to play AMac then they needed another veteran thus Braun. I think having solid veteran guys will help the young guys improve. - Dkos
I don't agree that they needed another veteran. I do agree that veteran players help younger players.
I believe that Braun will help the Flyers in the short term but I don't think the Flyers should be thinking short term. |
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Will they get better and ready sooner if they were given more responsibility sooner? - MJL
given. why should they be given anything? they have been given plenty the last 2 years and how as that worked out?
how much more responsibility to you want to give a bottom pairing dman? |
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There are many facets to this but I was looking at the players who are already in the NHL. Let's face it, both Niskanen and Braun are going to be taking away ice time from younger players. There are both good and bad things about that. What we know for sure is that Niskanen and Braun are not the future, they're part of now. - MJL
they aint taking away anything. why cant you grasp this? they are better and offer more so they will play ver the "young" player |
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MacDonald no, if he remained here, he was either going to be a veteran 7th or sent to the AHL. Gudas yes. As I said previously numerous times, I do believe that you have to have some veteran presence on the defense. Sending out all young guys has disaster written all over it. I personally felt that adding Niskanen was enough. I would not have bought out MacDonald to add Braun.
The concern is simple. Young players get better by playing. How is Morin going to get playing time? Or Haag? Is Gostisbehere going to see less playing time? Do you think that Niskanen and Braun are key additions that will push the team towards cup contention or are the young players the key to that?
What do you want for the team? Just to be an improved playoff team or to become one of the best team's in the league with a core group to contend over a significant period and have the window open for as long as possible?
Is adding Braun for one year going to pay off with a level of success for the team that will offset the loss of development time and experienced gained for younger players that could help the team for the future? - MJL
good lord keep kicking the can down the road. Ever occur to you the management has seen enough of hagg and their projection is he is what he is? nah he is young he has to get better.
Do you think adding braun will have any value at all t help these guys along that won't show up in any stats? will his experience be a potential gain in their development?
hagg and morin will never ever be a core members. |
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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Dkos
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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I don't agree that they needed another veteran. I do agree that veteran players help younger players.
I believe that Braun will help the Flyers in the short term but I don't think the Flyers should be thinking short term. - MJL
That’s exactly why Braun and Niskanen are perfect for them. They improve the present and won’t stand in the way of the young guys in the future. |
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That’s exactly why Braun and Niskanen are perfect for them. They improve the present and won’t stand in the way of the young guys in the future. - Dkos
Yep god forbid they get them some help now seeing the struggles they have encountered ; nah it will take time away from Hagg |
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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former Phantom scores oh boy
brace for PLind
oh wait thank god he didnt touch it |
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Dkos
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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former Phantom scores oh boy
brace for PLind - Mordecai
Outmuscles Morin |
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jsh139
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Location: Philly 'burbs, PA Joined: 06.22.2017
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Season over. Time to tank. |
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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Season over. Time to tank. - jsh139
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