6 years 5.5 aav for Travis Konecny

Jesus. We really need a new ref in here.

not 30th with i believe less then 10% scoring rate.
- munky123

I meant relative to the players they put out there...

There’s so many little things you can say to think your team would of done better.

But there’s a bunch of other things that go your teams way that shouldn’t of.

Montreal has fantastic depth but no elite forwards. It’s probably why they are just a bubble team again.

6 years 5.5 aav for Travis Konecny
- bryant

Nylander will be a (frank)ing bargain.

I meant relative to the players they put out there...

There’s so many little things you can say to think your team would of done better.

But there’s a bunch of other things that go your teams way that shouldn’t of.

Montreal has fantastic depth but no elite forwards. It’s probably why they are just a bubble team again.
- Santo_44

Habs totally overachieved last year. Totally

Jesus. We really need a new ref in here.
- nbboy

I never noticed.

H, did pop in last week for a few minutes...

I never noticed.

H, did pop in last week for a few minutes...
- bixll

didn't he pop in, make fun of Frenchy and leave?

Habs totally overachieved last year. Totally
- bixll

I see them fighting for a wild card spot.

didn't he pop in, make fun of Frenchy and leave?
- PatC80

Momentary troll, then leave.

I see them fighting for a wild card spot.
- Santo_44

Max comes back to his normal scoring rate, they drop several points in the standings. JMO

6 years 5.5 aav for Travis Konecny
- bryant

seems about right

I meant relative to the players they put out there...

There’s so many little things you can say to think your team would of done better.

But there’s a bunch of other things that go your teams way that shouldn’t of.

Montreal has fantastic depth but no elite forwards. It’s probably why they are just a bubble team again.
- Santo_44

Thats fair, but outside the TMZ/TSN of news coverage, what tells you that the habs have no Elite scoring, over achieved or that they will be a bubble team? What stats show that? They were elite 5v5. They were in the top 5. They had a great d core. What information tells you that they will be a mediocre team?

Max comes back to his normal scoring rate, they drop several points in the standings. JMO
- bixll

I agree, they are overrated going into the season by fans.

Thats fair, but outside the TMZ/TSN of news coverage, what tells you that the habs have no Elite scoring, over achieved or that they will be a bubble team? What stats show that? They were elite 5v5. They were in the top 5. They had a great d core. What information tells you that they will be a mediocre team?
- munky123

Dom has a good article on the athletic showing why....he has the stats to prove it.

They don’t have any elite forwards and I think that’s pretty obvious. Domi/Drouin aren’t top of the league players.

Dom has a good article on the athletic showing why....he has the stats to prove it.

They don’t have any elite forwards and I think that’s pretty obvious. Domi/Drouin aren’t top of the league players.
- Santo_44

Stats to prove what? That they over achieved?

If we call a spade a spade, the amount of shot the pourous leafs d gave up and for the fact that Anderson has faced more shots then any other goalie would indicate that the leafs also overachieved no? or that they road the "price effect"?

I mean TSN used to blast the habs for relying on Price to save their bacon... Anderson faces 700 more shots then any other goalie the other season and they are cup contenders? If Anderson didnt play like a MVP, where do the leafs sit?

What makes the habs a bubble team?

Thats fair, but outside the TMZ/TSN of news coverage, what tells you that the habs have no Elite scoring, over achieved or that they will be a bubble team? What stats show that? They were elite 5v5. They were in the top 5. They had a great d core. What information tells you that they will be a mediocre team?
- munky123

The Habs go as Price goes..

Thats fair, but outside the TMZ/TSN of news coverage, what tells you that the habs have no Elite scoring, over achieved or that they will be a bubble team? What stats show that? They were elite 5v5. They were in the top 5. They had a great d core. What information tells you that they will be a mediocre team?
- munky123

It doesn't matter. Weber is finally 100%, so is Price. That's Team Canada's goalie and top paring d man. They have balance, played well the second half of last year and finished with the highest point total ever to miss the playoffs. 2 wins behind the Leafs and that was with guys hurt. They will for sure be in the mix this year.

Stats to prove what? That they over achieved?

If we call a spade a spade, the amount of shot the pourous leafs d gave up and for the fact that Anderson has faced more shots then any other goalie would indicate that the leafs also overachieved no? or that they road the "price effect"?

I mean TSN used to blast the habs for relying on Price to save their bacon... Anderson faces 700 more shots then any other goalie the other season and they are cup contenders? If Anderson didnt play like a MVP, where do the leafs sit?

What makes the habs a bubble team?
- munky123

If Andersen struggles, we can outscore his play. Albeit, temporarily, we can't sustain that all year long.... Can you say the same about the Habs if Price struggles?

The Habs go as Price goes..
- PatC80

Thanks darren dreger haha, but can that be said about the leafs too? If anderson plays like poop, the leafs will lose too? If Fleury is garbage, so are the knights? Were the leafs in the top 5, 5v5 scoring?

Look, at the end of the day, i think the Atlantic is the best division. Its going to be absolutely nuts and each game is going to be huge. Im stoked for the leafs habs rivalry going forward!!

If Andersen struggles, we can outscore his play. Albeit, temporarily, we can't sustain that all year long.... Can you say the same about the Habs if Price struggles?
- PatC80

Yea, last year, price struggled out the gate and we still were winning.

Not really. They want the money they said they are owed on their contracts.

The owners position on what qualifies as hockey related revenue is equally comical.

Both sides play the game.
- JohnFergusonJr

You know there is this thing called the CBA right?

You can buy into their whining all they want, but they are ignoring one very simple, fundmental, inconvenient truth.

Stats to prove what? That they over achieved?

If we call a spade a spade, the amount of shot the pourous leafs d gave up and for the fact that Anderson has faced more shots then any other goalie would indicate that the leafs also overachieved no? or that they road the "price effect"?

I mean TSN used to blast the habs for relying on Price to save their bacon... Anderson faces 700 more shots then any other goalie the other season and they are cup contenders? If Anderson didnt play like a MVP, where do the leafs sit?

What makes the habs a bubble team?
- munky123

The bubble has spoken, there will be no more questions. Sorry

He's right... TV deal, Seattle, and not to mention the new gambling structure that's legalized... cap will go up significantly (relative to the last two years) this will only help the leafs manage things...

Not worried at all about the cap, leafa are paying their best players big money... better than most teams stuck paying bottom feeders too much...
- Bleedz_Blue

Everybody keeps referring to Seattle. How does that affect the cap? I thought expansion fees were not considered ho key related revenue.

Thanks darren dreger haha, but can that be said about the leafs too? If anderson plays like poop, the leafs will lose too? If Fleury is garbage, so are the knights? Were the leafs in the top 5, 5v5 scoring?

Look, at the end of the day, i think the Atlantic is the best division. Its going to be absolutely nuts and each game is going to be huge. Im stoked for the leafs habs rivalry going forward!!
- munky123

Why? The Habs (frank)ing suck and the Leafs dummy them every game now

Habs live and die by Carey.. Leafs rely on Freddy a lot of games, but when a team come to the SBA they don’t think “we got this, Freddy isn’t playing.” They think - “we’ll probably need to score 6 goals on this (frank)ing guy because the Leafs will be gunning for us all game.”

When Toronto gets a lead, they don’t sit back until it’s a 3 goal lead.

Stats to prove what? That they over achieved?

If we call a spade a spade, the amount of shot the pourous leafs d gave up and for the fact that Anderson has faced more shots then any other goalie would indicate that the leafs also overachieved no? or that they road the "price effect"?

I mean TSN used to blast the habs for relying on Price to save their bacon... Anderson faces 700 more shots then any other goalie the other season and they are cup contenders? If Anderson didnt play like a MVP, where do the leafs sit?

What makes the habs a bubble team?
- munky123

The likelihood of players like Kulak, Domi, Tatar is higher than you’d like.

They were awesome 5v5 yes...but their PP was brutal. And PP isn’t luck, will they fix that? Maybe. Will their 5v5 play go down? Again maybe.

Price has fallen. But I know you are saying he will come back to form and not hoping.....

They don’t have any elite forward talent. They have depth and a good system in place for it.

They are a team that’s in the middle of the pack of the league and that’s likely where they finish.