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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
I can't wait for Clarkson to lace up the skates again in blue and white!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
Thanks darren dreger haha, but can that be said about the leafs too? If anderson plays like poop, the leafs will lose too? If Fleury is garbage, so are the knights? Were the leafs in the top 5, 5v5 scoring?

Look, at the end of the day, i think the Atlantic is the best division. Its going to be absolutely nuts and each game is going to be huge. Im stoked for the leafs habs rivalry going forward!!

- munky123



The Habs are far more reliant on Price. They need him to play well, the Habs are not built to outscore teams.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Sep 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
will be this week when fantasy sign ups open - FYI
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:56 PM ET
Everybody keeps referring to Seattle. How does that affect the cap? I thought expansion fees were not considered ho key related revenue.
- Canada Cup

The fees aren't, but everything else Seattle takes in will be.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:56 PM ET
Everybody keeps referring to Seattle. How does that affect the cap? I thought expansion fees were not considered ho key related revenue.
- Canada Cup

Because you gotta buy the team, so like 650mil or whatever... and that’s league revenue.. then they sell a poop-ton of new merch, which generates revenue. Corporations buy boxes, seasons tickets etc.. It’ll be a new arena*, which gives the NHL a more modern feel.. Lots of factors..

But the thing that’ll boost the cap more is the new TV deal that’ll happen in the US.


*revenvated. Still, nicer than the arenas built in the 90’s.. Anything older that’s not renevated are so trashy and need to be torn down, starting with CGY
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
Because you gotta buy the team, so like 650mil or whatever... and that’s league revenue.. then they sell a poop-ton of new merch, which generates revenue. Corporations buy boxes, seasons tickets etc.. It’ll be a new arena, which gives the NHL a more modern feel.. Lots of factors..

But the thing that’ll boost the cap more is the new TV deal that’ll happen in the US.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

The expansion fee isn't revenue but the other stuff is.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
The expansion fee isn't revenue but the other stuff is.
- Zezel

Ok, but it still factors..

The league became a half bil richer/more expensive..
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
The expansion fee isn't revenue but the other stuff is.
- Zezel


But it only boosts the cap if Seattle takes in more than the league average right?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
Because you gotta buy the team, so like 650mil or whatever... and that’s league revenue.. then they sell a poop-ton of new merch, which generates revenue. Corporations buy boxes, seasons tickets etc.. It’ll be a new arena*, which gives the NHL a more modern feel.. Lots of factors..

But the thing that’ll boost the cap more is the new TV deal that’ll happen in the US.


*revenvated. Still, nicer than the arenas built in the 90’s.. Anything older that’s not renevated are so trashy and need to be torn down, starting with CGY

- Arctic_AARDVARK


I feel sorry for Seattle fans. GMs won't let what happened with Vegas happen with Seattle. I don't see them getting a first round pick and a guy like Karlsson.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
Ok, but it still factors..

The league became a half bil richer/more expensive..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


The expansion fee itself has nothing to do with the cap but Seattle will bring in money.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
A Leafs v. Habs playoff series would be must-see for any hockey fan. There's a chance this year anyway.
- Zezel


I doubt it.

Not only would the Habs need to make the playoffs (don't think they do) but the Leafs would need to face them in the 2nd or 3rd round. Also unlikely.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
But it only boosts the cap if Seattle takes in more than the league average right?
- Canada Cup

I think so but I assume they will.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Sep 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
Because you gotta buy the team, so like 650mil or whatever... and that’s league revenue.. then they sell a poop-ton of new merch, which generates revenue. Corporations buy boxes, seasons tickets etc.. It’ll be a new arena*, which gives the NHL a more modern feel.. Lots of factors..

But the thing that’ll boost the cap more is the new TV deal that’ll happen in the US.


*revenvated. Still, nicer than the arenas built in the 90’s.. Anything older that’s not renevated are so trashy and need to be torn down, starting with CGY

- Arctic_AARDVARK


If it's anything like the last TV deal i isn't much. 200 mill a year. Roger's deal is more than twice that.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
I doubt it.

Not only would the Habs need to make the playoffs (don't think they do) but the Leafs would need to face them in the 2nd or 3rd round. Also unlikely.

- GreatGigInTheSky


A mathematical chance.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Sep 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
No potential lockout till 2021-2022
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
I feel sorry for Seattle fans. GMs won't let what happened with Vegas happen with Seattle. I don't see them getting a first round pick and a guy like Karlsson.
- Aaron_85

Zero chance..

And now teams are really going to try to not help them because of how successful Vegas was. I’ll sorta be pissed if they don’t suck.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
If it's anything like the last TV deal i isn't much. 200 mill a year. Roger's deal is more than twice that.
- aminnes


It will likely be significantly more than last time.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:05 PM ET
If it's anything like the last TV deal i isn't much. 200 mill a year. Roger's deal is more than twice that.
- aminnes

Does anyone know what this ones expected to be? I don’t even know who’s bidding.. I doubt ESPN..
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 16 @ 4:05 PM ET

You know there is this thing called the CBA right?

You can buy into their whining all they want, but they are ignoring one very simple, fundmental, inconvenient truth.

- Aetherial


Don't even try with him. You'll spend days trying to drill it into his skull.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 16 @ 4:07 PM ET


The Habs are far more reliant on Price. They need him to play well, the Habs are not built to outscore teams.

- PatC80


You know, I like the way the Habs play. Because they have Price back there, they are a pretty open team. They play fast. It maximizes the play of guys like Gallagher and Domi. As long as Price can continue to be a reliable backstop for them, the Habs have potential to make the playoffs or at least be in the thick of it. They don't have elite finishers as pointed out, but they have a style of play that gets the most of the producers that they do have.

I think they could repeat that play, providing that Price can continue to be the man that gives the team in front of him confidence.

Reaslitically, the Leafs are similar - they just have more offensive weapons to trot out, so they can be more difficult to contain. Or at least more difficult to trade chances with, because at some point you're on the wrong side of that exchange if you don't have as many weapons.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
I feel sorry for Seattle fans. GMs won't let what happened with Vegas happen with Seattle. I don't see them getting a first round pick and a guy like Karlsson.
- Aaron_85


But I think the league liked having a competitive expansion team rather than it being hopeless as they have been in the past. I think the plan is to give Seattle similarly favourable expansion rules as well. Fans of other teams may not like it, but it's in the league's best long term interests to start the expansion team off on the right foot. Vegas was a fantastic story that brought attention to the league.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 16 @ 4:10 PM ET
I feel sorry for Seattle fans. GMs won't let what happened with Vegas happen with Seattle. I don't see them getting a first round pick and a guy like Karlsson.
- Aaron_85


I don't see it either, but some of these that they got - teams were dumping their "mistakes" and Vegas was grabbing guys who wanted to remind the league that they were better than their former teams had thought them to be.

William Karlsson was a nobody who had scored 6 goals in 81 games the year before he was drafted by Vegas. It's not like Marchessault sucked - but Florida wanted out of that contract.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Sep 16 @ 4:14 PM ET
But I think the league liked having a competitive expansion team rather than it being hopeless as they have been in the past. I think the plan is to give Seattle similarly favourable expansion rules as well. Fans of other teams may not like it, but it's in the league's best long term interests to start the expansion team off on the right foot. Vegas was a fantastic story that brought attention to the league.
- Zezel


For sure, all he is saying is GM's throughout the league will be much smarter on how they approach the expansion draft. For example, not dishing out high picks to not select a certain player, etc..
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Sep 16 @ 4:26 PM ET
Does anyone know what this ones expected to be? I don’t even know who’s bidding.. I doubt ESPN..
- Arctic_AARDVARK


They are negotiating with NBC directly. There is no bidding war, it will likely be a similar deal.
lonnyBohonos
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 02.02.2017

Sep 16 @ 4:27 PM ET
I don't see it either, but some of these that they got - teams were dumping their "mistakes" and Vegas was grabbing guys who wanted to remind the league that they were better than their former teams had thought them to be.

William Karlsson was a nobody who had scored 6 goals in 81 games the year before he was drafted by Vegas. It's not like Marchessault sucked - but Florida wanted out of that contract.

- Monkeypunk


Every guy on the team was playing with a chip on their shoulder. If you think about 3rd and 4th lines today compared to when Nashville & Columbus came into the league there is so much more talent today. Much better chance you can get someone who just needed an opportunity that they previously weren't getting.

I just want them to be the Kraken



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