I hope so, but Rogers has lost a lot of money.. I'm hoping NBC and the NHL agree on a larger contract.
- PatC80

I read somewhere it is multiple outfits and ESPN is getting in

So many trolls around here these days.

It's September alright.
- Scabeh

I'm saying it will go up more than the last couple of years. I don't know if it'll be a huge increase, but a few bigger bumps will be breathing room for the Leafs. Trolls are talking like the cap doesn't increase.
- Zezel

Ah forget the trolls.
Lets concentrate on arguing amongst ourselves lol.

So many trolls around here these days.

It's September alright.
- Scabeh

Mirror, Mirror on the wall..

Ah forget the trolls.
Lets concentrate on arguing amongst ourselves lol.
- Fakepartofme

Shut up. 🙂

Agreed but not as big as people may think.
Im hoping im wrong and im hoping the new cba fixes the current cap restrictions.
- Fakepartofme

yeah. the current u.s. deals is $200M/year.

nba did go from $900M to a gianourmous $2.4B on their last deal. so the deal should be bigger.

if the nhl doubles from $200M to say $400M, 50% of the increase goes to the players in the form of increased cap, or additional $100M.

$100M/32 teams = ~3M increase to the cap.

a deal in the $500-600M range would create a pretty good uptick.

The small increases are a deliberate attempt to reduce the escrow payments and normalize the revenue projections. It's likely the result of these efforts will lower escrow payments from 15% to about 8%.

But the idea was that it was a 2-year plan to lower the cap compared to the natural revenue progression and offset escrow. Last year the projected revenue increase was 4.2% and they reduced it to 2.5%. This year, it's considered to be something similar - a projected 5% reduced to 2.4%.

I believe I'd heard that the cap this year will be artificially held to 83.5, but that should be offset by 4%-5% growth in the subsequent years which would take the cap to 87/88 and 91.5/92.5.

I'm not sure that this new TV contract is the saviour everyone thinks it will be - hockey isn't basketball in the US - but let's hope it's significant enough to improve those numbers.
- Monkeypunk

Escrow will be the big issue imo for the new cba discussions

Ah forget the trolls.
Lets concentrate on arguing amongst ourselves lol.
- Fakepartofme

Agreed. The troll culture is an interesting one recently though. Its changed from your team sucks, to a "Your cap situation really sucks even though your team is really good"

The small increases are a deliberate attempt to reduce the escrow payments and normalize the revenue projections. It's likely the result of these efforts will lower escrow payments from 15% to about 8%.

But the idea was that it was a 2-year plan to lower the cap compared to the natural revenue progression and offset escrow. Last year the projected revenue increase was 4.2% and they reduced it to 2.5%. This year, it's considered to be something similar - a projected 5% reduced to 2.4%.

I believe I'd heard that the cap this year will be artificially held to 83.5, but that should be offset by 4%-5% growth in the subsequent years which would take the cap to 87/88 and 91.5/92.5.

I'm not sure that this new TV contract is the saviour everyone thinks it will be - hockey isn't basketball in the US - but let's hope it's significant enough to improve those numbers.
- Monkeypunk

Great post.

As always.

Mirror, Mirror on the wall..
- bixll

Oh come on.

Agreed. The troll culture is an interesting one recently though. Its changed from your team sucks, to a "Your cap situation really sucks even though your team is really good"
- Archaic

You can only win the Cup this year is my new favourite.

Agreed. The troll culture is an interesting one recently though. Its changed from your team sucks, to a "Your cap situation really sucks even though your team is really good"
- Archaic

I kinda miss the days you could just be happy you have a good player on your team and not wonder if his cap hit is good enough compared to his production.

Leafs also have Kap and Johnsson on good contacts for the next 4 years so forwards will be perfectly fine. Bruins might have their big 3 at cheaper contracts but they also have over 13 mil in backes and Krejci so it evens out. Leafs don't really have any bad contracts from what I can see, Nylander will probably end up looking like a great contact in a year or two.

The Leafs are 15 million over the Cap now, forget about adding anymore players, even when you use the LTIR. You are so tight to the Cap you cant add another hot dog vender!!

- Brukie

celery caping is hard.

just look at the rangers, they don't have the cap space to sign deangelo this year.

will cost at least a 2nd rounder to dump namestock to make room for deangelo.

Shut up. 🙂
- Zezel

Thatta boy.

Holy (frank)in trolling Batman!

A lot of salty (frank)ers in here today.

I kinda miss the days you could just be happy you have a good player on your team and not wonder if his cap hit is good enough compared to his production.
- Scabeh

Absolutely. The NHL desperately needs a luxury tax system. All conversations are all about money and cap now, its awful. Really sucks the life out of the game sometimes.

I heard a good point that now the Leafs won't overpay on depth players because they literally can't.

Holy (frank)in trolling Batman!

A lot of salty (frank)ers in here today.


- .HOHO.

Looks like the way of the future around here.

I heard a good point that now the Leafs won't overpay on depth players because they literally can't.
- Zezel

yeah. the current u.s. deals is $200M/year.

nba did go from $900M to a gianourmous $2.4B on their last deal. so the deal should be bigger.

if the nhl goes doubles from $200M to say $400M, 50% of the increase goes to the players in the form of increased cap, or additional $100M.

$100M/32 teams = ~3M increase to the cap.

a deal in the $500-600M range would create a pretty good uptick.
- Tumbleweed

You and JFJ and the other bagels who jumped down my neck the other day for saying Marner's agent would not stop leveraging an offer sheet just because the season started, and the leafs were not saving a million bucks because the threat was gone... Should have a peek through the tsn.ca headline article.

This is my favourite part:

"There were two presented to him in the summer, two opportunities which he declined and he told me 'Darren, I don't want to sign them, I want to be a Leaf,'" Ferris told First Up on TSN Radio 1050 Toronto on Monday. "So, we declined both of those opportunities and I know Kyle (Dubas) was aware of one them, the team had actually told him that they had made the overture to Mitch and there was a very strong likelihood there were more that would be presented once the season started as you know, the cap number gets set and makes it more difficult for a team to match."

So I dunno, maybe just don't be know it all Richards.

Holy (frank)in trolling Batman!

A lot of salty (frank)ers in here today.


- .HOHO.

This thread is making me thirsty.

I kinda miss the days you could just be happy you have a good player on your team and not wonder if his cap hit is good enough compared to his production.
- Scabeh

Here's the thing. If they don't win for 5 years,,,they STILL have the players. Re-tool, re-arrange, re-stack. You can get lucky, or unlucky. But you know you have these guys for this many years. Who knows...maybe Sandin becomes a number 1? Maybe soem random guy they pick 3 year from now is a superstar? Maybe they go into Cap Hell and shed quality for quantity. The Capitals followed the model of paying their guys up front and trusting the core and they eventually got it done with a team completely different when they began their "competitive phase." Same to Pittsburgh who kept cycling guys around their core. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's not next year or nothing though, that's short sighted. Boston almost won with the "core" of their last Cup + re-tools. They'd made huge changes, but the key longterm guys were still there.

You and JFJ and the other bagels who jumped down my neck the other day for saying Marner's agent would not stop leveraging an offer sheet just because the season started, and the leafs were not saving a million bucks because the threat was gone... Should have a peek through the tsn.ca headline article.

This is my favourite part:

"There were two presented to him in the summer, two opportunities which he declined and he told me 'Darren, I don't want to sign them, I want to be a Leaf,'" Ferris told First Up on TSN Radio 1050 Toronto on Monday. "So, we declined both of those opportunities and I know Kyle (Dubas) was aware of one them, the team had actually told him that they had made the overture to Mitch and there was a very strong likelihood there were more that would be presented once the season started as you know, the cap number gets set and makes it more difficult for a team to match."

So I dunno, maybe just don't be know it all Richards.
- joel878

Lol bagels, I like that.

Weakness in defense and average in net.

Very elite upfront. Can the Leafs overcome their weakness? Stay tuned...
- RedRevenge