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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
It just took us a while to get that competent management team in place.
- PatC80


Fire Dubas
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 16 @ 12:45 PM ET
Would be nice if there was a luxury tax system that let teams go over 5-10% though.
- JohnFergusonJr



I agree with Gord Miller on his issue with the cap. Chicago, Tampa, Leafs, etc. do a good job in managing their draft/prospects. Yet get punished for it because they can't afford to keep them all. I would be in agreement for something like a franchise tag, or the cap for a single player is 50% less if they are your own player/signed to a max deal. Get creative.

The downside to that, I can see is the have not teams can't utilize it.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
I'm not gonna diminish how good it is for the Leafs to have 3 elite stars on the team for years to come. It's great news for them. Leafs are a very good team and you guys should be thrilled Marner finally signed.

But when you think that... let's say the (frank)ing bruins for example, are paying their 3 elite forwards around 20M and the Leafs are paying them over 30M......

Let's just say you guys aren't getting a bargain anywhere and it's bound to hurt at some point to fill other needs.

I hope they fail miserably.

With love of course.

- Scabeh


yeah i would rather have an/another elite/generational defenseman or maybe a goalie
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 12:49 PM ET
I agree with Gord Miller on his issue with the cap. Chicago, Tampa, Leafs, etc. do a good job in managing their draft/prospects. Yet get punished for it because they can't afford to keep them all. I would be in agreement for something like a franchise tag, or the cap for a single player is 50% less if they are your own player/signed to a max deal. Get creative.

The downside to that, I can see is the have not teams can't utilize it.

- Aaron_85


Luxury tax works because there are some teams that want to spend more money (and usually just make a mistake when they can) and there are some teams that need more revenue sharing.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
Luxury tax works because there are some teams that want to spend more money (and usually just make a mistake when they can) and there are some teams that need more revenue sharing.
- JohnFergusonJr

That's not very nice...
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
That's not very nice...
- 21peter


Sorry but it's the truth. Leafs did their fair share of it too.

Teams basically do it right now anyway with LTIR, both rich and poor.

Players are annoyed by escrow so maybe the way to bridge that gap is to let some teams spend more money on players.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
Eh, it's always negative b.s with the Leafs.

First it's Dubas can never sign the "Big 3", not only does he, but he adds Tavares, and people still say it can't work.


Next summer is doom! Right, guys?
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Sep 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
What are the odds of a 5 million dollar playing like a 10 million dollar player? (1:2 ratio)

What are the odds of a 1 million dollar player playing like a 3 million dollar player? (1:3 ratio)

Think about that for a second. Now you can see why I’m overly excited the Leafs have themselves positioned for success for years to come.


What are you trying to do here Lucas? Please clarify
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
I agree with Gord Miller on his issue with the cap. Chicago, Tampa, Leafs, etc. do a good job in managing their draft/prospects. Yet get punished for it because they can't afford to keep them all. I would be in agreement for something like a franchise tag, or the cap for a single player is 50% less if they are your own player/signed to a max deal. Get creative.

The downside to that, I can see is the have not teams can't utilize it.

- Aaron_85


That's the issue with the cap now. If you draft well you are punished. Leafs got Nylander, Marner, Matthews in the 1st round 3 years in a row and they got nailed. Other teams that did not do nearly as well (Arizona bombed horribly in 2015), won't face cap issues.

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:02 PM ET
That's the issue with the cap now. If you draft well you are punished. Leafs got Nylander, Marner, Matthews in the 1st round 3 years in a row and they got nailed. Other teams that did not do nearly as well (Arizona bombed horribly in 2015), won't face cap issues.
- RogerRoeper


Or winning issues
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
what is your over under on 103.5 points?

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
what is your over under on 103.5 points?
- senstroll


Over
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
https://twitter.com/ryanf...tatus/1173643500933582849

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
what is your over under on 103.5 points?
- senstroll


I think they'll have a similar season as last one.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
what is your over under on 103.5 points?
- senstroll


i'll take the over.




We're talking about connor brown's points, right?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
what is your over under on 103.5 points?
- senstroll


Under.

Division got stronger with Montreal, Florida and Buffalo all improving in some way. Tampa Bay and Boston are still just as strong. The only easy games are Ottawa and Detroit.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
i'll take the over.




We're talking about connor brown's points, right?

- Tumbleweed


should have clarified, thats Bad points made by Max
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Sep 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
i'll take the over.




We're talking about connor brown's points, right?

- Tumbleweed



I think he'll remember how to score one day. The man can score, just hasn't been in that role since graduating to the nhl.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
I agree with Gord Miller on his issue with the cap. Chicago, Tampa, Leafs, etc. do a good job in managing their draft/prospects. Yet get punished for it because they can't afford to keep them all. I would be in agreement for something like a franchise tag, or the cap for a single player is 50% less if they are your own player/signed to a max deal. Get creative.

The downside to that, I can see is the have not teams can't utilize it.

- Aaron_85

Luxury tax, or a cap discount for in house drafted players (~25%), or a single player franchise tag with 100% cap discount.

Just spitballing.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
should have clarified, thats Bad points made by Max
- senstroll


i'll take the over.




we're talking about this week, right?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
https://twitter.com/ryanfancey/status/1173643500933582849


- senstroll

spot on
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Sep 16 @ 1:12 PM ET

So many big-name unsigned RFAs still, where's the 24/7 coverage about how these teams are (frank)ed? Is that just a Leaf thing?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
Luxury tax, or a cap discount for in house drafted players (~25%), or a single player franchise tag with 100% cap discount.

Just spitballing.

- BetterCallSaul


I think the problem with a franchise tag, at least the way the NFL uses it, is that players get stuck with the tag and can't go anywhere.

It also doesn't have a penalty attached to it. If teams are spending extra money, that's an advantage so there should be some kind of cost for it.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
So many big-name unsigned RFAs still, where's the 24/7 coverage about how these teams are (frank)ed? Is that just a Leaf thing?
- BestRapperAlive



How the GM's all need to be fired. etc... Agreed
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
Or winning issues
- bixll

Lol yeah

And some teams are almost capped out and aren't good
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