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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 17 @ 12:30 PM ET
for sure. i just agree that the landscape is going to change a lot in the next couple years and the norm by then wont be the norm now. inflation of contracts and players being more strategic on term.

boeser sign a deal that is essentially 4 year $25+ million because of the qualifying offer, and gets to renegotiate early in his prime. very different than the 10-13 year deals of previous cba or going with multiple 1 year contracts through rfa years

- johnnykarate



If he plays bad can you not take him to arbitration?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 17 @ 12:31 PM ET
I agree, it is stupid to push the cap when you dont have to. Its Toronto....
But you will have players and agents pointing at these deals going "Me Too!"

- carsonagenic

Everyone wants to get paid. As they should take their fair share. No reason to leave money on the table for owners to collect. They already get their 50/50 share.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 17 @ 12:32 PM ET
Everyone keeps saying this is a bad deal for JB because it puts him in tough in three years when it’s time to re-sign him. Bunch of bullpoop. In 3 years time we will know for sure if he is a 10 million per guy or a 6 - 7 million guy. Plenty of guys will be off the books also. 3 to 5 year contract at this price is a great deal for both. They did the almost the same with deal with Gudbransen and we found out quickly his worth. It made him movable. I don’t see Boeser regressing I only see him getting better but the same idea. I think it puts more pressure on Boeser than it does management at this point.
- thundachunk


I've seen very little of that, most of the Benning critics I've seen have been impressed with the deal.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 17 @ 12:33 PM ET
for sure. i just agree that the landscape is going to change a lot in the next couple years and the norm by then wont be the norm now. inflation of contracts and players being more strategic on term.

boeser sign a deal that is essentially 4 year $25+ million because of the qualifying offer, and gets to renegotiate early in his prime. very different than the 10-13 year deals of previous cba or going with multiple 1 year contracts through rfa years

- johnnykarate

So you are saying that Boeser's agent did a little bit better than the 6 years 42 million dollar deal at the draft.

7.21% of the cap for Boeser's deal. Marners was 10.12 I believe.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
My Buddy's Daughter took her 3 kids to camp yesterday, so he asks his Daughter to get him an autograph, you guessed it Eriksson. I laughed my guts out when he showed it to me 2 hrs ago, I'm still chuckling.
- A_SteamingLombardi

What a massive let down!
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
#teamwhiner hasn't said much about the Brock deal lol...maybe they don't like bridges...


- LordHumungous

🤣🤣
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 17 @ 12:47 PM ET
If he plays bad can you not take him to arbitration?
- VANTEL


i dont know all the cba rules but i think they have to offer his qualifying offer or let him go to free agency.

my guess is: if boeser is worth more than the qualifying offer, he rejects and goes to arbitration; if he is worth less than it the team has to decide to walk away or sign him to the 1-year deal
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 17 @ 12:49 PM ET
So you are saying that Boeser's agent did a little bit better than the 6 years 42 million dollar deal at the draft.

7.21% of the cap for Boeser's deal. Marners was 10.12 I believe.

- manvanfan


imo this works out very well for boeser. hes got a bit of security and is going to get paid big money when more money is available, both from extra cap space and inflated player contracts
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
If he plays bad can you not take him to arbitration?
- VANTEL


You can but my understanding is teams can only get a 1 year 15% decrease at most going the arbitration route. And they can only take a player to arbitration once in their career.

Otherwise I think the starting point is 7.5 which is his base in year 3. There would be no min increase as it is over 1M.

Either way the deal is great for Canucks, Brock will easily be worth the 7.5 then.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Sep 17 @ 1:02 PM ET
I've seen very little of that, most of the Benning critics I've seen have been impressed with the deal.
- belcherbd

I’m a Benning critic. This is an excellent deal.

Edit: I think the people that don’t like this deal spend too much time listening and reading IMac.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 17 @ 1:13 PM ET
I’m a Benning critic. This is an excellent deal.

Edit: I think the people that don’t like this deal spend too much time listening and reading IMac.

- thundachunk


Me too, his best offseason to date, especially when you add in unloading Guddy for Pearson.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Sep 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
I’m a Benning critic. This is an excellent deal.

Edit: I think the people that don’t like this deal spend too much time listening and reading IMac.

- thundachunk


I think a good deal for both parties. Good cap for 3 years. Then if all is well we sign him for the rest of his prime
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
Canucks roster vs oilers tonight

https://twitter.com/Hocke.../1174011095788339200?s=19
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Sep 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
Canucks roster vs oilers tonight

https://twitter.com/Hocke.../1174011095788339200?s=19

- Codes1087

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 17 @ 1:48 PM ET

- Brooks_Light


Edmonton oilers roster/lines for tonight

https://twitter.com/TomGa.../1173999038300975104?s=19

Return of granlund
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
Canucks roster vs oilers tonight

https://twitter.com/Hocke.../1174011095788339200?s=19

- Codes1087

Hughes at C
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
Canucks roster vs oilers tonight

https://twitter.com/Hocke.../1174011095788339200?s=19

- Codes1087


Quinn Hughes as a center huh? Really wants to go after his brother for that Calder...
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Quinn Hughes as a center huh? Really wants to go after his brother for that Calder...
- NewYorkNuck


His bro got 2 goals yesterday, hes gotta catch up
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
Canucks practice lines for tonight

https://twitter.com/Canuc.../1174021985413632000?s=19
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 17 @ 2:20 PM ET
Edmonton oilers roster/lines for tonight

https://twitter.com/TomGa.../1173999038300975104?s=19

Return of granlund

- Codes1087


So glad he’s gone. He was okay as a 13th forward but WD/TG used him like he was a legit top 9 forward.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 17 @ 2:23 PM ET
A giant blog just posted, with my thoughts on Boeser's new contract and how the Canucks are now sitting pretty, cap-wise. Plus, quick recaps of Monday's games and the lineups for Tuesday's preseason home opener against the Oilers:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...eseason-begins/194/101455
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Sep 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
Everyone wants to get paid. As they should take their fair share. No reason to leave money on the table for owners to collect. They already get their 50/50 share.
- manvanfan

Yep. Plenty of pie for all.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
Slow compared to Ferland with super fast Brock and a bit faster Elias?
- Reubenkincade

youre confused he had ferland Bo and JT as a line. If youcan't read the related post, don't reply.
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