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SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 10.13.2006

Sep 20 @ 3:04 PM ET
Babcock said he hates Spezza, wishes he was never born, shouldn't be considered an NHL'er anymore and that Spezza's great grandkids are already really ugly.. With all that said, he's going to name Spezza captain next week.

The Babcock way, I guess.

- PatC80


I agree... *insert goofy Spezza laugh*
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:08 PM ET
Here's the part that bugs me. When they signed Spezza, the story was this:

"Following an exhilarating meeting with Kyle Dubas and Mike Babcock during the free agent interview period, Spezza took the Leafs offer in hopes of staying even longer to help the club over the hump."

This means that Babcock was there on July 1 as a part of the meeting. As a part of the whole: Should Spezza take a multi-million dollar haircut and a reduced role to come back to Toronto and play in front of friends and family - for a good team - or is there no real role for him?

Babcock was clearly a part of the conversation that encouraged Spezza to come to Toronto . . . so these words, if they directed at Spezza, are a bit of slap in the face. It's not Dubas signed Spezza and Babcock was like, "What the Hell am I going to do with this guy?"

- Monkeypunk


I think Spezza thought he could just show up! Obviously that’s not good enough!
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
FIIIIIIIIIIRE DUUUUUBAAAAAAAASS!!!
- 21peter




(frank) off Max
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
Yeah but Krug is a weenie and he likes smelling farts
- TheMussel


That may be true, I mean he is a Bruin, so it likely is to be true.. Still, we could use another Muzzin type player.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
Why?

According to Torey Krug, Muzzin is the only Maple Leaf player willing to hit someone.

- PatC80

Because you can't hit what you can't catch.

I'm not saying I'm predicting it (at least not yet - be sure to participate in the 2019-20 Official Leafs Prediction Thread!), I'm just saying I'm worried about it.

A defenceman doesn't have to lose much footspeed to go from dependable second liner to franking embarrassment that you can't ever stand to look at.

Don't believe me?

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
I agree... *insert goofy Spezza laugh*
- SofaKingBored

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
Because you can't hit what you can't catch.

I'm not saying I'm predicting it (at least not yet - be sure to participate in the 2019-20 Official Leafs Prediction Thread!), I'm just saying I'm worried about it.

A defenceman doesn't have to lose much footspeed to go from dependable second liner to franking embarrassment that you can't ever stand to look at.

Don't believe me?


- Atomic Wedgie



You're comparing Muzzin to Phaneuf?? We're franked
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
I missed it... what was said?
- SofaKingBored

Goat played well and Babs said he played well. And he said they have to see if Spezza can play a role. So histrionics unsued.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
Because you can't hit what you can't catch.

I'm not saying I'm predicting it (at least not yet - be sure to participate in the 2019-20 Official Leafs Prediction Thread!), I'm just saying I'm worried about it.

A defenceman doesn't have to lose much footspeed to go from dependable second liner to franking embarrassment that you can't ever stand to look at.

Don't believe me?


- Atomic Wedgie


It's absolutely true, but it also depends on a few other factors - how smart is the player and how adaptable are they? Once a player recognizes that the ways they used to be able to take to do their job are no longer available to them, do they know smarter ways to do the same thing? Do they know how to work harder to make things happen? Are they coachable? Did they have strong fundamental skills to begin with to leverage when the physical skills start to erode?

A guy like Hainsey was never that good, but he is clearly adaptable because he has learned how to compensate for his lack of speed. He has always had good fundamentals, so relying on physical gifts isn't something he had to do or did.

Muzzin is not that far off from Phaneuf in some ways, but he does have better fundamentals already. The rest remains to be seen.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
You're comparing Muzzin to Phaneuf?? We're franked
- PatC80

Not to switch gears here (OK, I'm switching gears here), but as far as I know, he didn't even get a PTO invite anywhere.

Hockey is a cruel, cruel business.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 20 @ 3:20 PM ET
Goat played well and Babs said he played well. And he said they have to see if Spezza can play a role. So histrionics unsued.
- Zezel



I thought this was well established already.. You can't teach 6'5, and that Spezza was taught how to be 6'3.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
(frank) off Max
- .HOHO.

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
I thought this was well established already.. You can't teach 6'5, and that Spezza was taught how to be 6'3.
- PatC80



^^^ This was established. I took notes.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
(frank) off Max
- .HOHO.


I thought it was Max too.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 20 @ 3:22 PM ET
^^^ This was established. I took notes.
- Monkeypunk


See? You get it.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:22 PM ET
This doesn't sound like doom and gloom.. I'm so confused, now.. What happened to abandoning the ship? Are we staying aboard now?
- PatC80


I know I wasn't all doom and gloom. Some dudes in here should be eating crow though.

Kapanen/Johnsson, Matthews, Nylander
Hyman, Tavares, Marner
Moore, Kerfoot, Kapanen/Johnsson
Micheyev, Spezza, Goat

Rielly, Ceci
Muzzin, Barrie
Dermott, Lilijegren (Hopefully)

Andersen
WGAF...unfortunately


I'm all in!
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
You're comparing Muzzin to Phaneuf?? We're franked
- PatC80


No, Wedgie is (frank)ed!

As in "Put in the Max category"

Gotta go... Off to the game
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
I thought it was Max too.
- Leafsandbolts


(frank)in window licker!
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
Leafs look good - will be rock n roll time when Hyman and Dermott return!

- Lucas.Neilson



And thanks for the blogs!





.....MiB blew nog in 5, 4, 3, 2.......
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
I know I wasn't all doom and gloom. Some dudes in here should be eating crow though.

Kapanen/Johnsson, Matthews, Nylander
Hyman, Tavares, Marner
Moore, Kerfoot, Kapanen/Johnsson
Micheyev, Spezza, Goat

Rielly, Ceci
Muzzin, Barrie
Dermott, Lilijegren (Hopefully)

Andersen
WGAF...unfortunately


I'm all in!

- underhill14


I like you Barb
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
Muzzin worries me.
- Atomic Wedgie


Ya, how so?

I found him pretty stable last year, a nice surprise really. What are your concerns?
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
I like you Barb

- .HOHO.


via GIPHY



Edit....err....I mean....who's Barb
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 20 @ 3:27 PM ET

- 21peter

.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
Ya, how so?

I found him pretty stable last year, a nice surprise really. What are your concerns?

- underhill14


Another brilliant Wedgie post....

I take Rielly, Barrie, Muzzin and Dermott over anything the Leafs have had in years!

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
I thought it was Max too.
- Leafsandbolts


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