Kadri, Brown. As mediocre as they may have been they are better defensively than the new guys brought it. Same with Hainsey and Z. As much as those guys pissed us all off, they are better defensively than the guys that replaced them. Leafs are all in on all offense. Will be interesting to see how it works out.
- aminnes

Whoa

Hainsey was best defender on the defensive tasks (except pk where all d sucked) in playoffs vs bruins.
Zaitsev was good in playoffs as well.

Ceci sucks. he's a waste of a roster spot and capspace.
- MaximusAurelius

Ceci for one year on an expiring contract >>>>>>>>Zaitsev for 5 years

Why is this concept so hard to grasp? Leafs paid Brown as compensation for swallowing hard on that deal and Dubas managed to squeeze a third rounder out of Duh-orion. Great trade for the Leafs.

As far as Ceci goes, he can skate, as a former first round selection and hometown player, he was asked to do way too much on a very bad team. Being on an expiring deal, Leafs managment figured this player might be better motivated to play to his abilities.

How the (frank) do you put Johnson on the 4th line max....seriously, you say you don't hate him but you continue to slag him. The guy scored 47 fricking points and 20 plus goals in 80 gp last year. Averaging under 14 min a game. He even had a gwg in the playoffs. If you can't see he's at worst a top 9, and very likely a top 6, then you aren't watching.

Ceci for one year on an expiring contract >>>>>>>>Zaitsev for 5 years

Why is this concept so hard to grasp? Leafs paid Brown as compensation for swallowing hard on that deal and Dubas managed to squeeze a third rounder out of Duh-orion. Great trade for the Leafs.

As far as Ceci goes, he can skate, as a former first round selection and hometown player, he was asked to do way too much on a very bad team. Being on an expiring deal, Leafs managment figured this player might be better motivated to play to his abilities.
- winsix

Hainsey at 3m plus is too much anyways. Rather give sandin a shot.

Im guesijng the Penalty killers are going to be Moore Kap marner and kerfoot.

Im guesijng the Penalty killers are going to be Moore Kap marner and kerfoot.
- mykokes

I'd say GOAT/Spezza will get time as well to take the draws.

How the (frank) do you put Johnson on the 4th line max....seriously, you say you don't hate him but you continue to slag him. The guy scored 47 fricking points and 20 plus goals in 80 gp last year. Averaging under 14 min a game. He even had a gwg in the playoffs. If you can't see he's at worst a top 9, and very likely a top 6, then you aren't watching.
- mykokes

put Leivo or Kerfoot or Frattin on Matthews' LW, and they'll all get 45+ points over the season, even if with limited minutes. Johnsson is not that special - plus he's bound to get injured soon because he isn't able to avoid being hit.

put Leivo or Kerfoot or Frattin on Matthews' LW, and they'll all get 45+ points over the season, even if with limited minutes. Johnsson is not that special - plus he's bound to get injured soon because he isn't able to avoid being hit.
- MaximusAurelius

Neither leivo or frattin even have 40 career points. So no, they wouldnt. Johnson did that in one season. And ok nastradamus on your injury prediction.

put Leivo or Kerfoot or Frattin on Matthews' LW, and they'll all get 45+ points over the season, even if with limited minutes. Johnsson is not that special - plus he's bound to get injured soon because he isn't able to avoid being hit.
- MaximusAurelius

Johnsson had tremendous production last year given his usage.

How the (frank) do you put Johnson on the 4th line max....seriously, you say you don't hate him but you continue to slag him. The guy scored 47 fricking points and 20 plus goals in 80 gp last year. Averaging under 14 min a game. He even had a gwg in the playoffs. If you can't see he's at worst a top 9, and very likely a top 6, then you aren't watching.
- mykokes

This is pretty much his only reasonable excuse tbh

Neither leivo or frattin even have 40 career points. So no, they wouldnt. Johnson did that in one season. And ok nastradamus on your injury prediction.
- mykokes

Nostradumbass*

Nostradumbass*
- lumlums

Sup poindexter!?

put Leivo or Kerfoot or Frattin on Matthews' LW, and they'll all get 45+ points over the season, even if with limited minutes. Johnsson is not that special - plus he's bound to get injured soon because he isn't able to avoid being hit.
- MaximusAurelius

But he was scoring at a high rate without Matthews, that's why he earned his way up.

But he was scoring at a high rate without Matthews, that's why he earned his way up.
- Zezel

Stop being factual. It's much more likely that he is a 4th line plug that flukes in to 40+ points

But he was scoring at a high rate without Matthews, that's why he earned his way up.
- Zezel

Why do you guys argue with him everyday?

AJ is obviously a top 6 player. He’s fast, smart, makes good decisions, and he can finish. What else is there to say?

I don’t know why this is such a thing around here. I ripped Nylander HARD when he wasn’t playing well, now he is and I love him... Why does it have to be “but Marner was -3 so Willy’s better”? Why can’t it be, “yay we have good players and I want them all to succeed”?

Why do you guys argue with him everyday?

AJ is obviously a top 6 player. He’s fast, smart, makes good decisions, and he can finish. What else is there to say?

I don’t know why this is such a thing around here. I ripped Nylander HARD when he wasn’t playing well, now he is and I love him... Why does it have to be “but Marner was -3 so Willy’s better”? Why can’t it be, “yay we have good players and I want them all to succeed”?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

It's sand in the mangina.

Why do you guys argue with him everyday?

AJ is obviously a top 6 player. He’s fast, smart, makes good decisions, and he can finish. What else is there to say?

I don’t know why this is such a thing around here. I ripped Nylander HARD when he wasn’t playing well, now he is and I love him... Why does it have to be “but Marner was -3 so Willy’s better”? Why can’t it be, “yay we have good players and I want them all to succeed”?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Wait, Marner was a minus 3, that kicks him off the penalty kill.
Now what are we gonna do?

Wait, Marner was a minus 3, that kicks him off the penalty kill.
Now what are we gonna do?
- bobbyisno1

I honestly don’t know what else he could be good for.

I'm too lazy to post it, so just imagine the Bill Paxton 'game over man' bit from Aliens. That's Leaf fans in preseason.

Half the posters here need a good hard slap from time to time
- systemtool

When completely healthy, the way I see it-

Johnsson - Matthews - Bill Ny
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Mikhayev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Spezza - La Chèvre - Moore

Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Barrie
Kivihalme - Dermott (Liljegren until Dermott is healthy. I had Schmaltz there at first because I thought they'd play him just because, but he's been (frank)ing awful, so I don't think he'll play much.)

Freddy
Neuvirth

Unless I'm forgetting someone.

Who?
- burn

Zaitsev

Neither leivo or frattin even have 40 career points. So no, they wouldnt. Johnson did that in one season. And ok nastradamus on your injury prediction.
- mykokes

Max is still comparing Johnsson to Frattin.

Why do you guys argue with him everyday?

AJ is obviously a top 6 player. He’s fast, smart, makes good decisions, and he can finish. What else is there to say?

I don’t know why this is such a thing around here. I ripped Nylander HARD when he wasn’t playing well, now he is and I love him... Why does it have to be “but Marner was -3 so Willy’s better”? Why can’t it be, “yay we have good players and I want them all to succeed”?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Because it bugs you.

Because it bugs you.
- Steven_Seagull

It lessens the quality of the thread..

You just want people to bicker at each other all day.