Really. So you just don’t believe any of the stories that came out after Hexy got fired?

Patrick was the right pick at second overall. Somebody else should have been picking him. I wasn’t alone in thinking it was time to trade a first for a roster player. Not a knock on Patrick. He looks to have a solid NHL career ahead of him.

Hextall’s blue line of first and second year kids was a disaster. His process was more important to him than the team’s success. This is why Fletcher just had to overpay for Braun and Niskanen.

Let’s be honest, Hextall’s drafting wasn’t that great. He GMd a basement dweller with multiple first rounders and his only home run was a goaltender in the 3rd round.
- acd513

So guys like Sanheim, Provorov, Konecny, Farabee, Lindblom, and Patrick (not to mention signing Myers as a UFA) were bad choices? Please show me what GM had a better draft record over that time.

I do believe that Hexy micro-managed and made some bad choices (such as the alumni dressing room issue and controlling what players could/couldn't eat). And his "spying" issue with Pryor definitely was not wise, at least getting caught wasn't. But to say that he drafted Patrick based on ego just seems odd to me.

Really. So you just don’t believe any of the stories that came out after Hexy got fired?

Patrick was the right pick at second overall. Somebody else should have been picking him. I wasn’t alone in thinking it was time to trade a first for a roster player. Not a knock on Patrick. He looks to have a solid NHL career ahead of him.

Hextall’s blue line of first and second year kids was a disaster. His process was more important to him than the team’s success. This is why Fletcher just had to overpay for Braun and Niskanen.

Let’s be honest, Hextall’s drafting wasn’t that great. He GMd a basement dweller with multiple first rounders and his only home run was a goaltender in the 3rd round.
- acd513

Really. So you just don’t believe any of the stories that came out after Hexy got fired?

Patrick was the right pick at second overall. Somebody else should have been picking him. I wasn’t alone in thinking it was time to trade a first for a roster player. Not a knock on Patrick. He looks to have a solid NHL career ahead of him.

Hextall’s blue line of first and second year kids was a disaster. His process was more important to him than the team’s success. This is why Fletcher just had to overpay for Braun and Niskanen.

Let’s be honest, Hextall’s drafting wasn’t that great. He GMd a basement dweller with multiple first rounders and his only home run was a goaltender in the 3rd round.
- acd513

Woof, so many things wrong here.

Really. So you just don’t believe any of the stories that came out after Hexy got fired?

Patrick was the right pick at second overall. Somebody else should have been picking him. I wasn’t alone in thinking it was time to trade a first for a roster player. Not a knock on Patrick. He looks to have a solid NHL career ahead of him.

Hextall’s blue line of first and second year kids was a disaster. His process was more important to him than the team’s success. This is why Fletcher just had to overpay for Braun and Niskanen.

Let’s be honest, Hextall’s drafting wasn’t that great. He GMd a basement dweller with multiple first rounders and his only home run was a goaltender in the 3rd round.
- acd513

Which Clown alt are you?

If you can honestly look at the prospect pool the Flyers have, consistently ranked as top system over the last few years , and still say all of that then more power to you.

Really. So you just don’t believe any of the stories that came out after Hexy got fired?

Patrick was the right pick at second overall. Somebody else should have been picking him. I wasn’t alone in thinking it was time to trade a first for a roster player. Not a knock on Patrick. He looks to have a solid NHL career ahead of him.

Hextall’s blue line of first and second year kids was a disaster. His process was more important to him than the team’s success. This is why Fletcher just had to overpay for Braun and Niskanen.

Let’s be honest, Hextall’s drafting wasn’t that great. He GMd a basement dweller with multiple first rounders and his only home run was a goaltender in the 3rd round.
- acd513

What do you think of Hakstol?

Woof, so many things wrong here.
- BenderRodriguez

The biggest one being the knock against his drafting. Im curious what he is looking at, was it the vaulting up the rankings of minor league systems across the league, was it perhaps the "possibility" of next year seeing 6 HOMEGROWN defensemen (Provy, Sanheim, Myers, Ghost, Hagg, Morin) lace em up over the course of a season? Perhaps it's the talent up front that we've drafted over the last several years (TK, Patrick, Lindblom, Farabee, Frost, Ratcliffe), as well as several depth players that could end up making the team and making impacts at some point during the next season or two (Vorobyev, Rubstov Bunnaman, Twarynski, Freidman, Zamula, Serdyuk, Wylie, Millman), not to mention that our goalie pipeline (starting with Hart, Ustimenko, Sandstrom, Feditov) has never been laden with more talent than it is as we currently stand. Did i forget anyone?

I get the Hexy detractors, but one thing the man (and Chris Pryor) can do is evaluate talent and draft well.

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Traded down and pick up a young nhl player and other assets. If there was a time to trade the pick that was it
- daryl stanley

LOL

Really. So you just don’t believe any of the stories that came out after Hexy got fired?

Patrick was the right pick at second overall. Somebody else should have been picking him. I wasn’t alone in thinking it was time to trade a first for a roster player. Not a knock on Patrick. He looks to have a solid NHL career ahead of him.

Hextall’s blue line of first and second year kids was a disaster. His process was more important to him than the team’s success. This is why Fletcher just had to overpay for Braun and Niskanen.

Let’s be honest, Hextall’s drafting wasn’t that great. He GMd a basement dweller with multiple first rounders and his only home run was a goaltender in the 3rd round.
- acd513

Hextall did a good job at coordinating the draft and re-stocked the system to a place were the Flyers finally have some kids coming that can be difference makers. Hextall did not do a good job, at least in my view, of stocking and addressing the issues that were and in some cases still are weaknesses on the Flyers over his tenure.
I didn't agree with a lot of his decisions, but as some point out, my opinions are some times based on revisionist thinking.
as far as the farm system, I still think its to early to cast a "true" grade. Still a lot of kids early in development.

Patrick is a bust. I can see why they drafted him even if I don’t agree with that logic. When drafting at #2 spot the last thing I want is injury concerns. PERIOD. And he had them.

lol gotta love the why did we pick Patrick..

Lets rewind the season leading up to landing Patrick.

Giroux wasn't 100% and all were saying he was declining and that we were sooooo screwed moving forward with having no center.

Then the hockey gods bless us with a strong, big 2 way center.
- arichardson22

Why did we draft a career 3rd line C in Couturier

Patrick is a bust. I can see why they drafted him even if I don’t agree with that logic. When drafting at #2 spot the last thing I want is injury concerns. PERIOD. And he had them.
- SMS4016

that will be all.

Patrick is a bust. I can see why they drafted him even if I don’t agree with that logic. When drafting at #2 spot the last thing I want is injury concerns. PERIOD. And he had them.
- SMS4016

he turned 21 last week. a tad early to call a kid a bust that has already played two NHL seasons before his 21rst birthday.

he turned 21 last week. a tad early to call a kid a bust that has already played two NHL seasons before his 21rst birthday.

- landros 2

If he doesnt perform at an elite level in his first season or 2 he is a bust. Flyers GM is an idiot because he didnt make are team suck when McDavid was up to draft

Has Patrick made an instant impact offensively? No. But through his first two NHL seasons, Patrick has 19 more points than Sean Couturier did in his (note; the lockout half season skews this a bit) and only five less than Mike Richards did.
- bmeltzer

Not really a fair comparison, IMO.

Both Coots and Richie started their careers further down the lineup, with a heap ton more defensive responsibility, and linemates that were either inexperienced or of limited ability. Neither got major time on the PP their first couple of seasons.

Patrick was basically handed the 2C job on a silver platter with Jake Voracek to feed him the puck, balanced/favorable usage, and PP time. He's even been on the 1st-line and PP1 for stretches. Despite those advantages, he's been underwhelming offensively, and still a work in progress defensively.

Who knows where Patrick's career will end up. Maybe he is an outlier and still has 1C potential. But speaking frankly, his first two years don't look anything like Richie and Coots' under the surface.

Can we please tell our star players to stop trying to fight bums, first Jake with Haley and then Cooter last night.

I’m guessing you’re referring to Provy Ghost Sanheim?

Ghost is an all offense defensive liability.

Sanheim is a stud but not quite there yet.

Provy is a second pair guy on a good team.
- acd513

You are a terrible talent evaluator.

Why did we draft a career 3rd line C in Couturier
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Couturier is better offensively then I thought, or ever gave him credit for. That being said he was turning into a stud 3rd line, shut down center, which are extremely valuable as well. Good on him to throw his game to another gear.

If he doesnt perform at an elite level in his first season or 2 he is a bust. Flyers GM is an idiot because he didnt make are team suck when McDavid was up to draft
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

?

Patrick is a bust. I can see why they drafted him even if I don’t agree with that logic. When drafting at #2 spot the last thing I want is injury concerns. PERIOD. And he had them.
- SMS4016

Yeah, the Leafs sure are happy they passed on Morgan Rielly and his dodgy ACL. Knee injuries like that are often a precursor to brain hemorrhages.

Can we please move away from the absurd conversations regarding Nolan Patrick and instead focus on something the Flyers should actually get flak for, like having Chris Stewart within 100 yards of any Flyers facility in any capacity.

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- landros 2

Im making fun of all the people going on about how NoPa is a bust and should have never been drafted

If you want to critique Hextall and Pryor's drafting, I'd suggest looking at their first two picks in 2016 which were both not Alex Debrincat. To pass on the little points machine once is understandable; every team in the first round did. To pass on him the second time is tough.

Which Clown alt are you?

If you can honestly look at the prospect pool the Flyers have, consistently ranked as top system over the last few years , and still say all of that then more power to you.
- opeth_pa

doesn't matter where they are and have been ranked. bottom line is results and they need to start to bear more fruit.