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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
Bro. You only see positives lol.
- j.boyd919


Hahaha Thats not true at all...in my post you responded to I said "some positives". I said earlier that Murray was crap. I bash JJ a lot. I talk poorly of some of JR moves. I think I was the first person here in the summer to say I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the playoffs this year.

I'm a realist...but a hopeful one.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Hahaha Thats not true at all...in my post you responded to I said "some positives". I said earlier that Murray was crap. I bash JJ a lot. I talk poorly of some of JR moves. I think I was the first person here in the summer to say I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the playoffs this year.

I'm a realist...but a hopeful one.

- MattStrat


Haha I know I was just busting balls.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
I don't hate the guy. I don't love him either. I personally don't understand some of you that think he walks on water. He's a good offensive-defenseman, but he's frequently out of position and often leaving Dumolin out to dry. If you don't see that, I cannot help you.

The only hate that I have is for Jack Johnson. Christ, I'd rather have Ian Moran or Rico Fata back on this team, over him.

- simethos


When you say he’s out of position frequently... I highly doubt he’s out of position in a higher capacity than most no. 1 Dmen. Watching Tampa play down here in Florida... the fan base female doges and moans about Hedman being out of position “all the time.” The truth is... these guys aren’t out of position anymore than the next guy. If you were to watch a bunch of no. 1 defensemen on other teams, you’ll see that they’re all “out of position frequently.”
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Oct 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
GMJR is mad.... In a bad way... Another great blog Ryan.
pier6687
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.28.2019

Oct 9 @ 12:00 PM ET
RW as next Penguins GM - he knows everything!!!
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 9 @ 12:01 PM ET
GMJR is mad.... In a bad way... Another great blog Ryan.
- kaptaan


Trade offer still stands

To Penguins

Carol Schram

To Canucks

Ryan Wilson
2020 1st round pick
2020 2nd round pick
2021 1st round pick

No Take Backs.....
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Oct 9 @ 12:24 PM ET
The good news about shopping big G is that there will be takers. I’m not down for just getting rid of him though. I say He and Morino would be a fine 3rd pairing.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Oct 9 @ 12:29 PM ET
RW as next Penguins GM - he knows everything!!!
- pier6687

When your big plan during GM interviews is “wait until training camp and hope elc players pan out”. It probably disqualifies you from the discussion
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 9 @ 12:37 PM ET
The good news about shopping big G is that there will be takers. I’m not down for just getting rid of him though. I say He and Morino would be a fine 3rd pairing.
- Grinder47

I can just see GMJR trying to replace his push back 1 month later.
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Oct 9 @ 12:41 PM ET
i dont get it. it appears that he has zero forward thinking. the AHL team is depleted, the draft picks are (as usual) being traded away and there are at least 6 players who didnt play 80 games in a pens uniform. the mistakes are compounding so much at this time, its hard to over look. the 1st for reaves for reaves to be a throw in fro cap purposes to get brassard? that worked out well.

freeing up Hags cap space to take gubrandson's on?? what was the point of that? oh right "push back". The $ and term for JJ are amazing (and not in a good way).

Then sully get a 4 year extension? why did they not wait until december to see how it goes? This is the year the pens playoff streak ends. i am guessing they will blame it on anything other than the front office.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 9 @ 12:53 PM ET
No Chucky at practice...
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
No Chucky at practice...
- Rinosaur

I was waiting for that one. He didn't look 100% yesterday
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 9 @ 12:57 PM ET
No Chucky at practice...
- Rinosaur


good lord
pens_4ever
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pontiac, MI
Joined: 07.18.2018

Oct 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
You lose almost 60, potentially 70, goals per season even in Malkin and Honqvist (RW blames age in only one case, of course, because he is a victim of every self-serving heuristic in the book). Take out Bjugstad, and you've lost 1/3 of your top-nine, and they're not the kind of players you can pay $3 mil. Bryan Rust is out too, so that's 4/9. GMJR is so silly for allowing JJ to let all this happen.

Guds looked really bad last night. As advertised, he can take someone off of the puck, but he's not great at doing something effective with it from that point. But even when he had good games, RW was just waiting for him to have some bad ones so he can squeal because GMJR should have known that Tanner Pearson, who scored almost 20 on LA, couldn't increase that output coming to PIT. Just like he should've predicted Brassard was going to bomb; nobody fancied him as a 3C.

Letang was inept, again, but that's what happens when you are the guy that carries the mail and gets some runoff goals and assists from 87 & 71. Criticism? Naw - here we're only the-opposite-of-objective homers. In fact, Sid was the only player (maybe Jake, Jared, and Marino had decent games) that stood out as exemplary last night. Oh! And Tanev has been heck of a hockey player so far. He's relentless, very fast, and he's always back on D. I think he would've done great things for 71 this year, but it will be Tanev, GMJR, & HCMS's fault that that might not happen.
Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Oct 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
Hey guys, running a hockey pool a bit late since my longtime league was never renewed by our commish this year.


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thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Oct 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
Rutherford needs to go. All he has done since Bots left is cost us draftpicks and money bringing in mostly useless plugs that he turns around and ships out a year later.

Hes a bumbling mess and has a huge ego that causes him to say dumb things like "I know why he didnt play last year and it has nothing to do with his on ice performance". Meanwhile hes shopping said player a year later for being a bum. How clueless can you be?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
This board is already in mid-season form with various lines in the sand drawn.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
Rutherford needs to go. All he has done since Bots left is cost us draftpicks and money bringing in mostly useless plugs that he turns around and ships out a year later.

Hes a bumbling mess and has a huge ego that causes him to say dumb things like "I know why he didnt play last year and it has nothing to do with his on ice performance". Meanwhile hes shopping said player a year later for being a bum. How clueless can you be?

- thickman1178


I definitely don’t shy from my criticism of JR but when you’re down this many key players the best GMs in hockey would have a hard time navigating this situation.

Geno, Bjugstad, Rust and now Horn and possibly Chucky? No amount of planning prepares for that poop.
Dr Blob
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.30.2018

Oct 9 @ 1:18 PM ET
Change is coming. I just don’t see this team being competitive even before the injuries. The big question is how long Mario can put up with this mess.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 9 @ 1:21 PM ET
This board is already in mid-season form with various lines in the sand drawn.
- Victoro311


Its borderline insufferable hahaha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 9 @ 1:29 PM ET
No Chucky at practice...
- Rinosaur


hahah oh my...I actually did chuckle when I read this...a "this is nuts" chuckle...for Chucky.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
I definitely don’t shy from my criticism of JR but when you’re down this many key players the best GMs in hockey would have a hard time navigating this situation.

Geno, Bjugstad, Rust and now Horn and possibly Chucky? No amount of planning prepares for that poop.

- Rinosaur


This is definitely true. I'd be more optimistic if I saw a bit of style change last night. I think they locked it down better in the second half of the game, but there needs to be a systemic shift to get through this.

I literally saw Guddy and JJ pinch multiple times each last night and the Jets barely missed taking advantage of it. I mean...that will not work. Just like it didn't work when Maatta and others repeatedly pinched last season.

That's Sully system however......regardless if his team is capable of playing it. Gotta go conservative if they're going to get through this.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Oct 9 @ 1:34 PM ET
I definitely don’t shy from my criticism of JR but when you’re down this many key players the best GMs in hockey would have a hard time navigating this situation.

Geno, Bjugstad, Rust and now Horn and possibly Chucky? No amount of planning prepares for that poop.

- Rinosaur


Oh I agree, its a hard thing to overcome. But our losses wouldnt be nearly as bad if JR had a clue. He has literally had to undo half of his trades by giving away assets to get rid of horrible contracts he gave out. The guy has been a mess since he was allowed to drive the team solo.

My TL;DR take on it is this - we won two cups based on speed and skill. JRs takeaway from that was "I know we won two cups that way but now we need more grit and toughness on our roster, even if the guys couldnt hit the broadside of a barn with their shot". Helen Keller could see the problem with his plan from the get go.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 9 @ 1:47 PM ET
This is definitely true. I'd be more optimistic if I saw a bit of style change last night. I think they locked it down better in the second half of the game, but there needs to be a systemic shift to get through this.

I literally saw Guddy and JJ pinch multiple times each last night and the Jets barely missed taking advantage of it. I mean...that will not work. Just like it didn't work when Maatta and others repeatedly pinched last season.

That's Sully system however......regardless if his team is capable of playing it. Gotta go conservative if they're going to get through this.

- madmike71



I think so too...and they did that last March when they were down 3 of the top 4 D and a few top 6 forwards...ended up going 10-3-3 that month.
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

Oct 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
RW as next Penguins GM - he knows everything!!!
- pier6687


Pier6687 as next host of the afternoon show on the X - he knows how to tow the company line!
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