My favorite play of the game is Nylander jumping out of the way of the player going to the front of the net which happened to be the guy he should of been covering.
- BetweenTheDots

If you're meaning that last goal, then that isn't the correct reason ... it is more like -exactly what the fargo is a winger doing in the d zone crease?

I think most of us saw this coming. That being said, it’s just one game. Time to move on.
- DarthKane

Have you been here before?

Wow, too much bad to write it all down.

They aren't any better at all, but the one thing I thought stood out was that I don't think that any one pass hit a guy in stride so he could keep moving.(other than a couple break away passes by Kane) Passing was really, really bad.

I kept hearing about how they just needed a training camp with Colliton.

Any maybe it was just the TV feed, but for an opening night, there didn't seem to be much energy in the building, it all seemed flat. Toews also looked lost.

They look worse than they were at the end of the season. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone, Hawks regressing, just like Trubisky is regressing. What the hell is going on

On the bright side, Hawks probably just implementing the St. Louis model from last year.

On the bright side, Hawks probably just implementing the St. Louis model from last year.
- vabeachbear

It is a copycat league after all...

2 games & the season is over? Still waiting to see some player's faces & having lines gel. Tweaking & trying to get more production to jump start others is to be expected. I didn't see a bad game last night. Some players didn't have a good night, but some were great, imo. I see talent & cause to be excited. Bad puck luck & unfortunate bounces. I feel like we had a lot of near misses from high danger points. Just waiting for the consistency. Idk, piss & moan & root for the demise of a team you cheer for to prove you're right, I guess, because the sky fell.

On a positive note, Hawks did outhit the Sharks and we won the face-off stats.

Some thoughts:

1. Players are looking just as confused and out of place in the neutral/defensive zone as they did when Colliton started eleven months ago.

2. Colliton made a crucial error that likely cost the Hawks the game last night. He broke up the Kubalik-Kampf-Saad line after they completed dominated every shift in the first period. The last two periods no line seemed to gain any traction and the scoring chances piled up for San Jose. You cannot try to fix what isn't broken. That line needed to stay together and be relied upon heavily while they were rolling.

3. PK coverage is discombobulated. There were only a few times when guys were trying to get into passing lanes. The personnel for the PK has vastly improved over last year, and there is no reason the Hawks cannot at least be an average PK team. When I see a bunch of players with a history of being good penalty killers, and they look lost on this team, I have to put the onus on the coach.

4. Gustafsson still stands out as a mindless moron in the defensive zone. He is only worried about how to best position himself to get on the stat sheet. Other players were guilty of turnovers, but Gustafsson is almost always guilty of taking himself completely out of position in order to cheat towards the O zone. The worst part about it is that he never seems to be held accountable by the coach. In fact, he seems to get rewarded.

5. Kane floats around the D zone a lot too. On the Sharks 4th goal, watch Kane for the previous 20 or 30 seconds. He is floating around aimlessly waiting for a fluke play to happen upon his stick so he can go the other way. He ends up wandering near the side boards while his point man gets an open point shot that created the rebound to tie the game. He will not be held accountable for this.

I hope the team finds a way to fix their issues real quick, because if the Hawks start this season with a losing homestand it's going to be a big hill to climb.

Expect the following line up changes
Kubilak- Toews - Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Shaw
Saad-Dach-Perlini
Caggulia-Kampf-Carpenter
- PatShart

Saad Toews Kubalik
Cat Strome Kane
Perlini/Nylander Dach Shaw
Caggiula Kampf Carpenter

Kubalik should be playing right wing imo

Just win baby!
Hawks look they don’t understand how to win.

Jeremy had a Pass last year. Pressure is now on.

So Keith is probably the worst defender on the team right now. And that is saying a lot.

I was right about the 8 goals and anyone's game.

Pretty status quo; fun when Kane has the puck on his blade and pretty pretty pretty ugly otherwise.

Kubalik, Maatta, Saad
Gus, Colliton (his sytem and the line juggling)

I would expect to see Perlini in the next game.

I hope we see DeHaan and Dach soon.

2 games & the season is over? Still waiting to see some player's faces & having lines gel. Tweaking & trying to get more production to jump start others is to be expected. I didn't see a bad game last night. Some players didn't have a good night, but some were great, imo. I see talent & cause to be excited. Bad puck luck & unfortunate bounces. I feel like we had a lot of near misses from high danger points. Just waiting for the consistency. Idk, piss & moan & root for the demise of a team you cheer for to prove you're right, I guess, because the sky fell.
- I Am The Breadman

It's not as much as it's over as it's more of the same from last year.

It's very troubling to hear JC say it would be nice on the PK if we could block some shots from the point, well i got an answer put forwards out there that will and wont lean away from the shot or get caught along thre boards thinking they are faster than the puck and magically they are going to intercept the board pass.

I feel sorry for any Dman that plays with Gus. You not only have to have your head on a swivel to keep track of the other team you have to keep your head on a swivel to find where your defensive partner has wondered off to.

Timber?
Timber!
Something is going to fall and it might be later rather than sooner.
All the negative press and or remarks about Colliton's system is the subject. There may not be a perfect system or perfect personnel for any coach to work with, to mold

This much said, sure the return of DeHahn and a healthy Murphy can help lessen the defensive woes. Nylander, though, for what good he showd he practicly seems to abet the situation at hand. Either he plays how he must defensively and no floating or say hello Rockford.

There is the issue of fairness to consider here so let me just not appear to pick on Nylander. I say there is always going to be problems with each team when the personnel is not a perfect fit.

So then you have to look at the system. Collitin is a bright guy but that does not mean the system he uses actually works the way he envisions......yeah ...that is what all the naysayers will quickly be yelling about.

I feel like there is legitimate concern here but let us not admonish or be too quick to condemn until his system plays out oh let's say half the season. After all i have to believe that Stan would feel job pressure if Colliton's system is a failure. So that reasoning alone suggests there will be due time given to straighten out the defensive responsibilities.

So far often either forwards are not supporting or defensemen suck.

Now maybe much could turn for the better if Keith had the right partner. His pairing as well as the Seabrook/Maata combination represents two thirds of the dmen shifts. My way of thinking is that eventually both Mitchell and Beaudin will be an improvement. But that doesn't happen for a while.

I have no suggestion whom to put with Keith.

I want to keep Seabrook/Maatta together because they appear to be good enough as a pair.

I like the positive things a Carlsson would bring as it relates to complementing Keith. But he apparently is not ready, i e has parts of game he needs to improve. Gilbert reportedly is the closest to NHL ready but he is not currently a good enough fit. Cripes....no one appears to have any good ideas whom to put with Keith.

Koekkoek's performance has not advanced or really declined much. I wish he was to improve and be a descent fit with Keith. Not likely to happen

I do know this however: better figure out the defense or forget about playoffs.
- jhawk59

I’m sorry, how do you know Colliton is a ‘bright guy’? This is his 7th season as a HC, and he’s lost much more than he’s won.

Unless you have his SAT or IQ scores, I don’t think you can make a case for him having a clue about how to coach in the NHL.

This team was upgraded, and has the talent to at least compete for a WC. The empty suit behind the bench has shown he can even F up future HOFers.

It's not as much as it's over as it's more of the same from last year.

It's very troubling to hear JC say it would be nice on the PK if we could block some shots from the point, well i got an answer put forwards out there that will and wont lean away from the shot or get caught along thre boards thinking they are faster than the puck and magically they are going to intercept the board pass.
- BetweenTheDots

Agree. Our forwards are so far back in our zone on the PK the players at the point on the other team have plenty of time and space to create, find open lanes and shoot. Compare that to when we are on the power play. Actually, no comparison.

2 games & the season is over? Still waiting to see some player's faces & having lines gel. Tweaking & trying to get more production to jump start others is to be expected. I didn't see a bad game last night. Some players didn't have a good night, but some were great, imo. I see talent & cause to be excited. Bad puck luck & unfortunate bounces. I feel like we had a lot of near misses from high danger points. Just waiting for the consistency. Idk, piss & moan & root for the demise of a team you cheer for to prove you're right, I guess, because the sky fell.
- I Am The Breadman

Morning hawks fans. Another sloppy game played and the result was as expected. Loss

We can debate that it's only 2 games , but we were told last year that if we just make some moves and give colliton a full preseason the results should be different.

I would agree with all of that if we saw drastic changes in their play, defensive game, and intensity.

I have nothing personal against Keith, however it's pretty clear that father time has finally caught up with him and pairing a extremely weak , sloppy defenseman ( Gus ) with him playing as a 1st pairing unit is ridiculous.


JC I watched his press conference and after watching his weak comments and lack of any emotion I believe he is not ready for this opportunity he was given, he received a pass last year has had a full training camp and Chicago looks like they regressed .

Sheldon broomball is coaching the defenseman how's that working out?

Morning hawks fans. Another sloppy game played and the result was as expected. Loss

We can debate that it's only 2 games , but we were told last year that if we just make some moves and give colliton a full preseason the results should be different.

I would agree with all of that if we saw drastic changes in their play, defensive game, and intensity.

I have nothing personal against Keith, however it's pretty clear that father time has finally caught up with him and pairing a extremely weak , sloppy defenseman ( Gus ) with him playing as a 1st pairing unit is ridiculous.


JC I watched his press conference and after watching his weak comments and lack of any emotion I believe he is not ready for this opportunity he was given, he received a pass last year has had a full training camp and Chicago looks like they regressed .

Sheldon broomball is coaching the defenseman how's that working out?

Morning hawks fans. Another sloppy game played and the result was as expected. Loss

We can debate that it's only 2 games , but we were told last year that if we just make some moves and give colliton a full preseason the results should be different.

I would agree with all of that if we saw drastic changes in their play, defensive game, and intensity.

I have nothing personal against Keith, however it's pretty clear that father time has finally caught up with him and pairing a extremely weak , sloppy defenseman ( Gus ) with him playing as a 1st pairing unit is ridiculous.


JC I watched his press conference and after watching his weak comments and lack of any emotion I believe he is not ready for this opportunity he was given, he received a pass last year has had a full training camp and Chicago looks like they regressed .

Sheldon broomball is coaching the defenseman how's that working out?

The 17-18 Blackhawks started 2-0 winning those game 10-1 and 5-1. How did that season turn out?

It’s just two games, two bad games, but not the end of the world.
- DarthKane

Oddly enough, Hawks D kicks in a goal in each of first 2 games and lose by 1 in each.

Yeah...totally, I am buying in, burn it down!!!

Still waaayyyy tooo many entitled and spoiled fans imho.

For those longing for the day Gus will be gone, you would lose by 2 or 3 each game.

The blind rage and mob mentality is soooo played.

He is the only one that can make a break out pass and support the offense. But by all means, lets blame him for Koekoek kicking in a goal in the first game, Murphy punching one in, and Keith getting turnstyled...and on and on....

Perlini in for Nylander Saturday..

Morning hawks fans. Another sloppy game played and the result was as expected. Loss

We can debate that it's only 2 games , but we were told last year that if we just make some moves and give colliton a full preseason the results should be different.

I would agree with all of that if we saw drastic changes in their play, defensive game, and intensity.

I have nothing personal against Keith, however it's pretty clear that father time has finally caught up with him and pairing a extremely weak , sloppy defenseman ( Gus ) with him playing as a 1st pairing unit is ridiculous.


JC I watched his press conference and after watching his weak comments and lack of any emotion I believe he is not ready for this opportunity he was given, he received a pass last year has had a full training camp and Chicago looks like they regressed .

Sheldon broomball is coaching the defenseman how's that working out?
- Taylorst1

Techically, he still hasn't had a full pre-season. Overseas travel in not the norm.

Morning hawks fans. Another sloppy game played and the result was as expected. Loss

We can debate that it's only 2 games , but we were told last year that if we just make some moves and give colliton a full preseason the results should be different.

I would agree with all of that if we saw drastic changes in their play, defensive game, and intensity.

I have nothing personal against Keith, however it's pretty clear that father time has finally caught up with him and pairing a extremely weak , sloppy defenseman ( Gus ) with him playing as a 1st pairing unit is ridiculous.


JC I watched his press conference and after watching his weak comments and lack of any emotion I believe he is not ready for this opportunity he was given, he received a pass last year has had a full training camp and Chicago looks like they regressed .

Sheldon broomball is coaching the defenseman how's that working out?
- Taylorst1

Repetition is the key to humor.

Oddly enough, Hawks D kicks in a goal in each of first 2 games and lose by 1 in each.

Yeah...totally, I am buying in, burn it down!!!

Still waaayyyy tooo many entitled and spoiled fans imho.

For those longing for the day Gus will be gone, you would lose by 2 or 3 each game.

The blind rage and mob mentality is soooo played.

He is the only one that can make a break out pass and support the offense. But by all means, lets blame him for Koekoek kicking in a goal in the first game, Murphy punching one in, and Keith getting turnstyled...and on and on....

Perlini in for Nylander Saturday..
- TrueGrit

No worries, I’m sure there will be a stretch in February where they go 10-2-2. Then you’ll be able to project the pace over 82, and declare all is well.

The roster has been significantly improved. The talent level says they should be a playoff contender.
The HC doesn’t have a clue.

Techically, he still hasn't had a full pre-season. Overseas travel in not the norm.
- powerenforcer

If we use your theory , than how do you explain Philly great start?
Another poster nailed it in his comments JC is just a empty suit behind the bench. JC doesn't have a fantastic winning record , clearly the system he has implemented isn't working , the team has upgraded it's personnel and they look lost more times than not ,sloppy play.

Remember Denis savard ? He had the talent but couldn't get the team focused and held accountable, change the coach and add a real nhl proven coach with the same talent and you get positive results.

It was one thing last year to put drake with toews and Kane that was in the moment and Chicago lacked any talent , doing that this year with the amount of talent Chicago has compared to last year IMO shows a coach who is lost and can't hit watering he fell out of a boat.