Please just don't engage me at all. Can't wait for you to quote "He's been terrible" completely out of context and with the second part of that sentence removed.
- BeadyEyedDouche

If U dont like it
Skip my posts, sir

These boards need an ignore option.

If U dont like it
Skip my posts, sir
- jcragcrumple

Generic Hockeybuzz poster reply: Dude you don't have to bring my wife into this. Telling people to kill themselves isn't cool.

These boards need an ignore option.
- Beethoven

I would have very few comments to read if that was the case. I'm pretty sure almost everyone has posted something that would have caused me to hit the button.

If U dont like it
Skip my posts, sir
- jcragcrumple

Fitztake No2

Tommy James & The Schondells


So Underrated and sounds soooo good on Vinyl!


"Draggin the Line"

"I Think We're Alone Now"

"Crimson & Clover"

"Mony Mony"

"Crystal Blue Persuasion"

"Sweet Cherry Wine"

"Hanky Panky"

The liquor is calling the shots.

Record when I watch full game:
0-0-1

Record when I'm able to only watch a either a portion of the game or nothing at all:
3-0-0
- Swedish_Jesus

Now we understand better why your "takes" suck so much beady ass

People love to hate on stats, but you know what's worse? The eye test. Because according to some people, Dahlin looks bad. Except see no.

On ice for Goals against at even strength:
Risto-5
McCabe-4
Scandella-2
Joker-2
Miller-1
Dahlin-1

On ice for Goals scored at even strength:
Miller-7
Dahlin-6
Risto-6
McCabe-4
Scandella-3
Joker-1

Who are our best defensive defensemen 5v5? Miller and Dahlin.

Who are our best offensive defensemen 5v5? Miller and Dahlin

Who is the defenseman killing it on our pp? Dahlin.

Where exactly has he been 'terrible'.
- matty12345

Freak plays bro

Hard calling him the best defensive dman when he's starting nearly 80% of the time in the Ozone and doesn't kill penalties at all.
Also, taking too many penalties leading to goals and while killing it on the PP, he gave the other team a shorty.
The eye test shows he is not good defensively. Probably the least defensive dman on the team so far this season.

Take your blinders off.
- adambuffalo

Lmao. Blinders

Ristolainen takes a penalty against the Pens with 2 minutes left when we’re up by 2.

Not a peep.

Dahlin/ Miller have been great. Period. End of discussion

All this dahlin madness.

All I said was he had a bad game. Which he did. I never said I thought he was the worst d ever

All this dahlin madness.

All I said was he had a bad game. Which he did. I never said I thought he was the worst d ever
- Sabretooth9

He did have a bad game defensively last night.

He also had some great moments.

It was a bad Dahlin game.

A bad Dahlin game is a good game for most of our D men

The liquor is calling the shots.
- TheSabresTaco

The liquor does not incline someone to post bad takes about Dahlin. That must come from within

The liquor does not incline someone to post bad takes about Dahlin. That must come from within
- jcragcrumple

You can notice a trend. They’re all Risto truthers

Lmao. Blinders

Ristolainen takes a penalty against the Pens with 2 minutes left when we’re up by 2.

Not a peep.

Dahlin/ Miller have been great. Period. End of discussion
- OneKaneOneCup

Miller's decision to pass to Johansson instead of just hammering a shot in OT hasn't been discussed enough. That was a very nice play, and a great pass. He's been very good

Hard calling him the best defensive dman when he's starting nearly 80% of the time in the Ozone and doesn't kill penalties at all.
Also, taking too many penalties leading to goals and while killing it on the PP, he gave the other team a shorty.
The eye test shows he is not good defensively. Probably the least defensive dman on the team so far this season.

Take your blinders off.
- adambuffalo

Not 80%, not even close. It's 66.7%. And don't quote a stat and not know what it means. Most stats people now recognize that zone starts aren't a good indicator of much.

He has taken three penalties. I don't care if they lead to goals or not, that's not indicative of his play, it's indicative of the PK, guys like Risto not killing them. He's taken three penalties, end of story. I'd like that number to be one or two, but I'm not worried about it.

The shorty was partially his fault, but there were five guys on the ice and they all kind of watched it happen. It's not like he tripped at the blue line and gave a clear cut breakaway.

Your eyes are lying to you. He's only been on the ice twice all season when a goal was scored, including that shorty. If he keeps that up he will be on the ice for 41 goals all season, which would be an elite number.

See this is the problem with your eyes. You see Risto banging on people and working down low, and you say Yay! Defense! Except while he's fighting and losing and giving up goals, dahlin just zips the puck over to Miller who zips it up the ice to someone who scores.

We crush opponents with Miller and Dahlin on the ice. We break even when the rest of our D are out there.

People love to hate on stats, but you know what's worse? The eye test. Because according to some people, Dahlin looks bad. Except see no.

On ice for Goals against at even strength:
Risto-5
McCabe-4
Scandella-2
Joker-2
Miller-1
Dahlin-1

On ice for Goals scored at even strength:
Miller-7
Dahlin-6
Risto-6
McCabe-4
Scandella-3
Joker-1

Who are our best defensive defensemen 5v5? Miller and Dahlin.

Who are our best offensive defensemen 5v5? Miller and Dahlin

Who is the defenseman killing it on our pp? Dahlin.

Where exactly has he been 'terrible'.
- matty12345

That's a bit simplistic, no? How about ice-time and zone starts? Surely they have a massive effect.

Now we understand better why your "takes" suck so much beady ass
- MEBSabresFAN

Which ones ? I was off on the Broncos this year and mitts getting 50 points last year but other then that I’ve been spot on a lot of things.

I said we should of taken Draisatil over Reinhart before the draft in 2014. Ask Homie to post the thread he had it bookmarked for years.

Last November it was Lafreniere buzz here on these threads and everyone was convinced the Blues were handing us a top pick this year and I said they weren’t going to be a bottom 10 team (didn’t have them winning the cup but who did).

I said Scandella should have been moved as soon as the lottery balls popped up in our favour for Dahlin. Then the guy went and had a miserable season last year. (4 games this year isn’t going to change my mind on that, if anything shows how well Joker is playing).

Said the Sabres were going to collapse during the 10 game win streak last year and was the tank commander for Cozens (whom 80% of this board criticized me for wanting the team to lose yet it’s the same posters slotting him into our top 6 next year)

While everyone was posting Thompson doing pirouettes last year I was one of his lone defenders saying he was very raw and still saw him as a middle 6 option once he filled out and got his confidence back.

Said we were going centre at 7 even though everyone was on the Caufield train.

Said Boldy was going to get picked before Caufield.

Anything else ? I got more.

That's a bit simplistic, no? How about ice-time and zone starts? Surely they have a massive effect.
- Wetbandit1

Zone starts don't mean what people think they mean. Why? I put Dahlin out in the offensive zone and lose the faceoff, it's a defensive zone shift within 6-7 seconds. All there is to really read from zone starts is that Dahlin is our best offensive defensemen and is being deployed as such.

TOI is hardly a factor. He's playing 18:36 and Risto plays 24:14. By ratios, Risto will give up more goals because he's out there more. But not that much. If dahlin played 33% more, he would have been on the ice for 1.33 goals against at even strength compared to Risto's 5.

Conversely, Risto's goals for need to be adjusted based on the fact he plays more. So Dahlin's 6 goals for would actually be 8 compared to Risto's 6.

There is no way to read stats that doesn't end up at this. Rasmus Dahlin is an elite defenseman. He was a top 20 D last year, and he's picked up where he left off. He's also 19 and makes the occasional dumb play. But consider that he's this great WITH those dumb plays, and then consider how amazing he will be at 22 when those mistakes are gone.

Kid is a superstar.

Lmao. Blinders

Ristolainen takes a penalty against the Pens with 2 minutes left when we’re up by 2.

Not a peep.

Dahlin/ Miller have been great. Period. End of discussion
- OneKaneOneCup

I'm pretty sure at least a few female dogged about it.

Zone starts don't mean what people think they mean. Why? I put Dahlin out in the offensive zone and lose the faceoff, it's a defensive zone shift within 6-7 seconds. All there is to really read from zone starts is that Dahlin is our best offensive defensemen and is being deployed as such.

TOI is hardly a factor. He's playing 18:36 and Risto plays 24:14. By ratios, Risto will give up more goals because he's out there more. But not that much. If dahlin played 33% more, he would have been on the ice for 1.33 goals against at even strength compared to Risto's 5.

Conversely, Risto's goals for need to be adjusted based on the fact he plays more. So Dahlin's 6 goals for would actually be 8 compared to Risto's 6.

There is no way to read stats that doesn't end up at this. Rasmus Dahlin is an elite defenseman. He was a top 20 D last year, and he's picked up where he left off. He's also 19 and makes the occasional dumb play. But consider that he's this great WITH those dumb plays, and then consider how amazing he will be at 22 when those mistakes are gone.

Kid is a superstar.
- matty12345

I'm glad you took all that from me saying that just putting basic stats out there 4 games in meant that. JFC.

Where have I said Dahlin isn't great?

Zone starts absolutely matter, don't believe me then look up players that start heavily in one zone or another and look at their CF% it's very strongly correlated higher to high O-Zone and vice versa. I have another for you. O-Zone start, face-off win, goal. We can play that game all day long.

I'm glad you took all that from me saying that just putting basic stats out there 4 games in meant that. JFC.

Where have I said Dahlin isn't great?

Zone starts absolutely matter, don't believe me then look up players that start heavily in one zone or another and look at their CF% it's very strongly correlated higher to high O-Zone and vice versa. I have another for you. O-Zone start, face-off win, goal. We can play that game all day long.
- Wetbandit1

Offensive zone starts so far

Rasmus Ristolainen- 9
Rasmus Dahlin - 10

What. A. Difference

I'm glad you took all that from me saying that just putting basic stats out there 4 games in meant that. JFC.

Where have I said Dahlin isn't great?

Zone starts absolutely matter, don't believe me then look up players that start heavily in one zone or another and look at their CF% it's very strongly correlated higher to high O-Zone and vice versa. I have another for you. O-Zone start, face-off win, goal. We can play that game all day long.
- Wetbandit1

Only six players on the team even have more defensive zone starts than offensive, and one is Rodrigues who only played one game. Two others, Risto and McCabe, are not far from 50%.

Everyone else is skewed high because the twins and okposo get about 75% defensive zone starts. Does that mean Okposo is better defensively than Eichel who is around 68% offensive zone starts? No. It means Okposo is useless offensively so he's never put out there in scoring situations. What else does it mean? He's on my team so he has to play somewhere.

I don't think people realize that zone starts only count off faceoffs. Now ask yourself, why is dahlin always out there for an offensive zone faceoff? Because he is great, same reason Jack is out there. Am I ever going to come out of a tv timeout and put Larsson out for an ozone start?

Zone starts tell you if a player is good offensively or not. They don't tell you much else.

Lmao. Blinders

Ristolainen takes a penalty against the Pens with 2 minutes left when we’re up by 2.

Not a peep.

Dahlin/ Miller have been great. Period. End of discussion
- OneKaneOneCup

Go back and read. I definitely said something about it. There were peeps peeping about it, trust me.

Miller's decision to pass to Johansson instead of just hammering a shot in OT hasn't been discussed enough. That was a very nice play, and a great pass. He's been very good
- jcragcrumple

Didn't they play in Boston together? Could be familiarity.