Except he hasn’t really improved his own game that much . He’s always been great and now was put in a better situation

It’s also pretty different going from really good to better, and going from really below average to really good.

But nice try
- OneKaneOneCup

Skinners not the only one who might benefit under these conditions, right? Just about any player who gets to play under conditions that enhance that player’s skill set can expect an increase in performance?

Even after 400, or even 500 games?

Except he hasn’t really improved his own game that much . He’s always been great and now was put in a better situation

It’s also pretty different going from really good to better, and going from really below average to really good.

But nice try
- OneKaneOneCup

He wouldn't have been playing 24+ minutes a night against teams' top lines and have many teams clamoring for him which Elliotte Friedman said there were if you are really below average so I think you need to take a break on the hate.

He wouldn't have been playing 24+ minutes a night against teams' top lines and have many teams clamoring for him which Elliotte Friedman said there were if you are really below average so I think you need to take a break on the hate.
- GilPerreault11

Oh well, I’m Kaiser.

Skinners not the only one who might benefit under these conditions, right? Just about any player who gets to play under conditions that enhance that player’s skill set can expect an increase in performance?

Even after 400, or even 500 games?
- Der Kaiser

The funny thing here to me is it’s so obvious you couldn’t care less about the topic at hand, it’s all about just trying (desperately at that) to catch me being hypocritical.

It’s a constant thing with you.

Hey, do you think Joel Armia was influencing the game last night?

Or was it just Risto’s poor play putting it on a platter for him? Either answer is acceptable

He wouldn't have been playing 24+ minutes a night against teams' top lines and have many teams clamoring for him which Elliotte Friedman said there were if you are really below average so I think you need to take a break on the hate.
- GilPerreault11

He’s below average until he actually isn’t below average.

He’s below average until he actually isn’t below average.
- OneKaneOneCup

40 + pts and top minutes against top players. Your assessments are below average until they aren't below average.

As long as he does it between the ages of 30-34 that’s what will matter. I’m not convinced he will be able to. When his shooting percentage goes down it’s not like he racks up enough assists to make it worth while.

All summer I read how we don’t need Laine because he’s one dimensional but when I use average points as a means to describe Skinner now it’s only goals that matter ?

For $9M a year he better score 30 goals and get 75 points annually.
- Swedish_Jesus

Yeah, nogunna happen.

The funny thing here to me is it’s so obvious you couldn’t care less about the topic at hand, it’s all about just trying (desperately at that) to catch me being hypocritical.

It’s a constant thing with you.

Hey, do you think Joel Armia was influencing the game last night?

Or was it just Risto’s poor play putting it on a platter for him? Either answer is acceptable
- OneKaneOneCup

It’s because you’re the biggest hypocrite on the board. You like some players, you despise some. Just like the rest of us.

But you won’t just come out and let yourself admit it.

40 + pts and top minutes against top players. Your assessments are below average until they aren't below average.
- GilPerreault11

yeah, let’s revisit this in a few months. He’s been so dynamite offensively when he’s not throwing wicked 5 feet passes to his left to Eichel on the PP.

He’s been a ghost offensively and is still making the same boneheaded plays In his own end.

Cant wait until we get a second rounder and third line winger for him

Or he can just continue to be the exact player he’s been for years which is an excellent LW
- OneKaneOneCup

I don’t have an issue with the player. I have an issue with the term of the contract. If Skinner is a boat anchor the last 3 years of that deal, to me that would make the ROR deal look like child’s play.

When this team has a 22 year old Dahlin a 26 year old Eichel, Reinhart will have his raise and long term deal, Cozens will be finishing off his entry level deal, Mitts would most likely be finishing a bridge deal (hopefully both Dylan and Casey hit their potential), we will be tight to the cap and can’t afford having a $9M dollar winger with his best days long behind him.

I’m not short sighted, if Skinner scores 40 this year that’s fantastic. Won’t mean nothing to me if we don’t win a cup and strike while the iron is hot when our time to compete comes.

It’s because you’re the biggest hypocrite on the board. You like some players, you despise some. Just like the rest of us.

But you won’t just come out and let yourself admit it.
- Der Kaiser

I do not like Rasmus Ristolainen as a hockey player. Because he’s really dumb with the puck and outside of the PP is a below average hockey player.

Im not sure how much more clearer I can be about my opinion on him.


There is absolutely 0 comparison between Jeff Skinner and Ristolainen in terms of quality of the player. Absolutely zero point zero zero

40 + pts and top minutes against top players. Your assessments are below average until they aren't below average.
- GilPerreault11

-41, lowest in the league and -7 below the runner up iij n the category last year is very well below average.

-41, lowest in the league and -7 below the runner up iij n the category last year is very well below average.
- TheHank

But he gets his head caved in against top lines!!

But he gets his head caved in against top lines!!
- OneKaneOneCup

Thanks sherlock.

I don’t have an issue with the player. I have an issue with the term of the contract. If Skinner is a boat anchor the last 3 years of that deal, to me that would make the ROR deal look like child’s play.

When this team has a 22 year old Dahlin a 26 year old Eichel, Reinhart will have his raise and long term deal, Cozens will be finishing off his entry level deal, Mitts would most likely be finishing a bridge deal (hopefully both Dylan and Casey hit their potential), we will be tight to the cap and can’t afford having a $9M dollar winger with his best days long behind him.

I’m not short sighted, if Skinner scores 40 this year that’s fantastic. Won’t mean nothing to me if we don’t win a cup and strike while the iron is hot when our time to compete comes.
- Swedish_Jesus

Amen.

-41, lowest in the league and -7 below the runner up iij n the category last year is very well below average.
- TheHank

Yeah, and one reason we pretty much overhauled a lot of our D along with him playing with an 18 year old rookie a lot of the time. Not to mention our forwards didn't give a lot of help on the first line. Skinner is not the master of D, either is Jack or Mitts we can go through the whole roster. When you lean on one D to carry you for 24+ minutes a night sh*ts going to happen with last years roster. Let's see what happens this year. He has to improve but he gets far too much crap than he deserves is my opinion.

Agreed. It's a bit misleading.

http://corsica.hockey/skater-stats/
- Lunaion

Is Corsica any better? The last time I tried to use it it was so slow as to be functionally useless. And that was 2.0 after the "reboot". Natural Stat Trick is only marginally better.

yeah, let’s revisit this in a few months. He’s been so dynamite offensively when he’s not throwing wicked 5 feet passes to his left to Eichel on the PP.

He’s been a ghost offensively and is still making the same boneheaded plays In his own end.

Cant wait until we get a second rounder and third line winger for him
- OneKaneOneCup

And still, Dahlin is totally fine doing that. He literally has done exactly that for almost half his points. Not a peep.

And before some idiots try and claim otherwise, this has nothing to do with Risto, and Dahlin is great. I have no problems whatsoever with how he gets his points. I don't care if they all come after the game because they originally thought there was a change of possession before the goal and they were all secondary PPA(has happened once so far, for the record). I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy/blind hatred as to how it's unacceptable and he really sucks for one player, but doesn't even bear a mention for another.

Is Corsica any better? The last time I tried to use it it was so slow as to be functionally useless. And that was 2.0 after the "reboot". Natural Stat Trick is only marginally better.
- Wetbandit1

The load times on those websites are hysterically bad.

I’m not short sighted, if Skinner scores 40 this year that’s fantastic. Won’t mean nothing to me if we don’t win a cup and strike while the iron is hot when our time to compete comes.
- Swedish_Jesus

Why is the time to compete not now? Why does there need to be a wait for another season or two?

The team, as currently constructed, might be legitimately good with another impact top 6 forward.

The time to be good is now, not waiting another year or two arbitrarily.

Breaking bad movie Was 10/10

Wish it was in theaters so I could watch it on IMAX it was so good

So yesterday was bash Dahlin day for leading the NHL in points from the back end.

I see today is bash Skinner day for being on pace for 60 goals despite being saddled with Sobotka.

This is classic Buffalo. The 'problem' with the team is always Ryan Miller isn't elite enough. Vanek didn't quite get to 40. McGahee has a bad attitude. Eric Moulds uses his body to catch the ball. Ryan OReilly has no heart. Reinhart is a bust.

This city always blames the best player for not being quite as good as another team's best player, instead of being willing to acknowledge that the problem isn't the type of good player you have, the problem is you don't have enough of them.

Breaking bad movie Was 10/10

Wish it was in theaters so I could watch it on IMAX it was so good
- gerbe75pts

Do not say a damn thing I’m watching it tonight

Why is the time to compete not now? Why does there need to be a wait for another season or two?

The team, as currently constructed, might be legitimately good with another impact top 6 forward.

The time to be good is now, not waiting another year or two arbitrarily.
- kingcong39

This team could very well compete for the duration of the 82 game season and might get that last wildcard spot but do you really think this team is a cup contender this year ?

Not 80%, not even close. It's 66.7%. And don't quote a stat and not know what it means. Most stats people now recognize that zone starts aren't a good indicator of much.

He has taken three penalties. I don't care if they lead to goals or not, that's not indicative of his play, it's indicative of the PK, guys like Risto not killing them. He's taken three penalties, end of story. I'd like that number to be one or two, but I'm not worried about it.

The shorty was partially his fault, but there were five guys on the ice and they all kind of watched it happen. It's not like he tripped at the blue line and gave a clear cut breakaway.

Your eyes are lying to you. He's only been on the ice twice all season when a goal was scored, including that shorty. If he keeps that up he will be on the ice for 41 goals all season, which would be an elite number.

See this is the problem with your eyes. You see Risto banging on people and working down low, and you say Yay! Defense! Except while he's fighting and losing and giving up goals, dahlin just zips the puck over to Miller who zips it up the ice to someone who scores.

We crush opponents with Miller and Dahlin on the ice. We break even when the rest of our D are out there.
- matty12345

For the most part, this is a good post.
It would have been Grade A had it included recognition that Dahlin does have shortcomings in his defensive game in the NHL, but with 85 games under his belt at age 19, he is exceeding expectations.