I’m not saying the Ducks are going to be buyers and are contenders, but they’re not basement dwellers either

They don’t have holes anywhere on the roster. They have no meaningful expiring contracts. I like Eakins as the coach, the Gulls were competitive last year and he knows the younger players. They have 1F, 1D, and 1G over 30. I don’t get all the hate. They led the league in injuries last year so they must suck? I don’t get it

You seriously don’t read people’s posts, do
You?

You see what you want, focus on that and ignore all else which is clear by you referencing their start to the season which I already explained.

So go ahead, re-read, pump your breaks; study a little and try again. When I know you actually read it I’ll engage you.
- Rinosaur

He touched on everything you said in the post he responded to and then added the power rankings comment.

Personally I dont put any stock in NHL power rankings...the Ducks are there because they won 3 in a row to start the season.

Yea he must of been taking a drink when JJ looked like the controller unpluged lol. I couldn't believe my eyes. Literally coasted out of position
- 668710

Hahaha. That was great. Like he saw a hot chick in the stands. He just drifted away towards the boards. Didn't even look like he was watching the play

You seriously don’t read people’s posts, do
You?

You see what you want, focus on that and ignore all else which is clear by you referencing their start to the season which I already explained.

So go ahead, re-read, pump your breaks; study a little and try again. When I know you actually read it I’ll engage you.
- Rinosaur

Rino man you’re losing it. You said they’ve aged outside of Gibson: this is false! Fake news! Their roster has 3 players over 30!

You said Manson is their only good defender and the rest is bad. Who is Hampus Lindholm?? Why is he terrible?

You said they’re garbage, they’re 3-1 and people being paid to analyze the league have them in the upper half

Anyone wanna throw me some descriptors on how we’re looking through three games. Between trips and moving I haven’t been able to catch any games yet besides 5 minutes of the Jets game.

I know we’re not doing well, but how does it actually look?

Rino man you’re losing it. You said they’ve aged outside of Gibson: this is false! Fake news! Their roster has 3 players over 30!

You said Manson is their only good defender and the rest is bad. Who is Hampus Lindholm?? Why is he terrible?

You said they’re garbage, they’re 3-1 and people being paid to analyze the league have them in the upper half
- WSCTeton17

1) that’s not what I said. I said they aged out outside of a gibson and a few other good young players, so you clearly didn’t read.

2) I’m ignoring their 3-0 blazing start to the new season which I already explained as likely what happens every year. Usually a handful of teams overachieve in the first 30 or so games which I already wrote and you chose to ignore.

This is why I don’t take your arguments seriously. You want people to not only respect your posts, but agree with everything. If they don’t agree you make up this bullpoop that they aren’t providing an argument when they are.

YOU DON’T READ. You just like to pontificate.

He touched on everything you said in the post he responded to and then added the power rankings comment.

Personally I dont put any stock in NHL power rankings...the Ducks are there because they won 3 in a row to start the season.
- MattStrat

Dude thank you. I literally addressed each item one at a time. Should I have numbered them?? 🤷🏼‍♂️

FWIW I think the NHL rankings are a lot of recency bias. I’ll also admit, most are betting on Anaheim to be a lower team but when you watch them play and you look at the numbers it shows a team that’s going to bring it every night. Will they make the playoffs? I doubt it. Will they likely be in the hunt all season long? I certainly think so. Early season issues are the powerplay and the lack of Maxime Comtois

Anyone wanna throw me some descriptors on how we’re looking through three games. Between trips and moving I haven’t been able to catch any games yet besides 5 minutes of the Jets game.

I know we’re not doing well, but how does it actually look?
- Victoro311

Sid's line looks great after a lack luster 1st game. He looks like he's fully prepared to carry the team in Geno's absence.

Every other line has been pretty meh.

Lafferty has played pretty well since being called up.

Kahun has shown glimpses of being alive. Last night being his best performance.

Marino hasn't looked out of place in the 2 games he's played and seems to be gaining more confidence.

The PP is a mess. Entry's have been awful.

A lot of this is to be expected missing the personnel that they are. Kind of hard to evaluate.

1) that’s not what I said. I said they aged out outside of a gibson and a few other good young players, so you clearly didn’t read.

2) I’m ignoring their 3-0 blazing start to the new season which I already explained as likely what happens every year. Usually a handful of teams overachieve in the first 30 or so games which I already wrote and you chose to ignore.

This is why I don’t take your arguments seriously. You want people to not only respect your posts, but agree with everything. If they don’t agree you make up this bullpoop that they aren’t providing an argument when they are.

YOU DON’T READ. You just like to pontificate.
- Rinosaur

1) can you share your definition of aged out? The avg age of F is 25.5, the D is 25.8

2) what did I make up?? It’s like Matt said, I addressed each one of your points and you’re not giving me anything back

Sid's line looks great after a lack luster 1st game. He looks like he's fully prepared to carry the team in Geno's absence.

Every other line has been pretty meh.

Lafferty has played pretty well since being called up.

Kahun has shown glimpses of being alive. Last night being his best performance.

Marino hasn't looked out of place in the 2 games he's played and seems to be gaining more confidence.

The PP is a mess. Entry's have been awful.

A lot of this is to be expected missing the personnel that they are. Kind of hard to evaluate.
- Thorny87

I know people love to pile on this, but I think Simon is a big reason for that line doing better. He is a better puck carrier than Horny and that makes a big difference. In zone starts, I don't mind Hornqvist getting the bump up because of his shot, but rolling lines it should be Simon.
Marino is good, I like his game a lot.

And yah, the power play is missing phil in a huge way. He was the guy that brought it up ice. Him and geno. One gone and one hurt is really leaving a mark.

Exactly. That’s exactly my point lol but people prefer Tanev because he’s “noticeable.” When so many plays die when he enters the zone with the puck and just goes to the corner and gets rubbed off it lol I’m not saying Tanev sucks but I am saying he ain’t nearly as special as everyone is making him out to be.
- j.boyd919

One thing about the Simon debates that's bothered me is that some of his strongest defenders like RE will go out of their way to point out the little things he does that don't end up as points but lead to goals because they support that player, but will almost never mention when a guy like Hornqvist or Tanev does the same.

All 3 had such a play against Columbus, and I saw a ton of "look, notice what Simon does" and not a lot of "look at how Hornqvist's screen led to a PP goal" because he doesn't want him on the PP.

Basically, I love seeing the subtle plays pointed out, but you read some articles and you'd think Simon is the only guy making them. I value what Simon brings even as I wish he'd score more, but I also think Hornqvist has been criminally under-rated by that same standard.

1) can you share your definition of aged out? The avg age of F is 25.5, the D is 25.8

2) what did I make up?? It’s like Matt said, I addressed each one of your points and you’re not giving me anything back
- WSCTeton17

Addressing number 2... you’re just not reading. You want to base the fact they are not garbage on three (frank)ing games to start the season where a few teams underachieve every year.

Addressing number 1. Getzlaf is 34, Kesler is old and done, Perry is gone who was already on the downside of his career. Henrqiue is an OK player leaving his prime and the rest of their young guys are OK.

Outside of Lindholm and Manson their defense is garbage. Yes, Fowler is terrible.

Garbage team. I don’t care where they rank through three games.

I was hoping there was in the summer because I felt the Pens would be near the top of ones gave up last season....no ones seems to track it....which I find strange. Pretty easy thing to track.
- MattStrat

There are lots of things that would be easy to track but aren't because nobody cares enough to track them. It's pretty tedious work. I'd love to see net front presence, both screening and defenders clearing the goalies sight line, tracked because I find it valuable, but it's not so it becomes a subjective argument.

Beer goggles make JJ look good just like they make MattStrats imaginary dumb girl look good.
- j.boyd919

I’m not saying the Ducks are going to be buyers and are contenders, but they’re not basement dwellers either

They don’t have holes anywhere on the roster. They have no meaningful expiring contracts. I like Eakins as the coach, the Gulls were competitive last year and he knows the younger players. They have 1F, 1D, and 1G over 30. I don’t get all the hate. They led the league in injuries last year so they must suck? I don’t get it
- WSCTeton17

I like the Ducks a lot. Picked them to make the payoffs in fact. But most of the reason I did was because 1) all 3 of their top defensemen had career worst year together an I figure that should bounce back well, and 2) they have a lot of decently talented young players that people haven't heard of yet so almost nobody is going to believe in them until they prove something. Easier to pick a team like Dallas that ha a lot of name recognition guys even if they're oldernd ignore the lack of depth.

Also, Gibson is good enough to push an ok team into the playoffs in a thin West IMO.

Hahaha. That was great. Like he saw a hot chick in the stands. He just drifted away towards the boards. Didn't even look like he was watching the play
- Thorny87

I'd be willing to bet if JJ picked that hot chick up and got her into bed he would be out of (frank)ing position

Addressing number 2... you’re just not reading. You want to base the fact they are not garbage on three (frank)ing games to start the season where a few teams underachieve every year.

Addressing number 1. Getzlaf is 34, Kesler is old and done, Perry is gone who was already on the downside of his career. Henrqiue is an OK player leaving his prime and the rest of their young guys are OK.

Outside of Lindholm and Manson their defense is garbage. Yes, Fowler is terrible.

Garbage team. I don’t care where they rank through three games.
- Rinosaur

Ok well according to MattStrat I was reading just fine and I addressed your points accordingly

I also had this exact same opinion about the team prior to the start of the season as I’ve expressed it numerous times throughout the summer along with my strong opinion on Neal bouncing back. I was also just here admitting that it certainly looks like I’ve underestimated the Canes

I like the Ducks a lot. Picked them to make the payoffs in fact. But most of the reason I did was because 1) all 3 of their top defensemen had career worst year together an I figure that should bounce back well, and 2) they have a lot of decently talented young players that people haven't heard of yet so almost nobody is going to believe in them until they prove something. Easier to pick a team like Dallas that ha a lot of name recognition guys even if they're oldernd ignore the lack of depth.

Also, Gibson is good enough to push an ok team into the playoffs in a thin West IMO.
- Tojo.

Personally, they don’t have my playoff vote yet. I think they’ll be in it every game but I want to see how the other teams in the division stack up first because a lot are saying the division is mostly wide open and I agree. People can say what they like about Myers and Ferland but they make Vancouver better, Hughes is sick, I’m a Miller fan and Markstrom just keeps trending up - big fan of how they’re coached too. There’s a lot to like in that division outside of LA who isn’t going to be terrible every game, but will likely collapse for too many games to be competitive imo. Totally agree with you on their D though. Fowler scores a nasty goal the other night

Ok well according to MattStrat I was reading just fine and I addressed your points accordingly

I also had this exact same opinion about the team prior to the start of the season as I’ve expressed it numerous times throughout the summer along with my strong opinion on Neal bouncing back. I was also just here admitting that it certainly looks like I’ve underestimated the Canes
- WSCTeton17

I really don’t care what Matt says. It’s clear when you’re not reading something.

Anyone wanna throw me some descriptors on how we’re looking through three games. Between trips and moving I haven’t been able to catch any games yet besides 5 minutes of the Jets game.

I know we’re not doing well, but how does it actually look?
- Victoro311

Like a team without an identity.

Dude thank you. I literally addressed each item one at a time. Should I have numbered them?? 🤷🏼‍♂️

FWIW I think the NHL rankings are a lot of recency bias. I’ll also admit, most are betting on Anaheim to be a lower team but when you watch them play and you look at the numbers it shows a team that’s going to bring it every night. Will they make the playoffs? I doubt it. Will they likely be in the hunt all season long? I certainly think so. Early season issues are the powerplay and the lack of Maxime Comtois
- WSCTeton17

Power rankings by definition are recency bias. They’re legit rankings on how teams are doing lately lol

Power rankings by definition are recency bias. They’re legit rankings on how teams are doing lately lol
- j.boyd919

Like though three (frank)ing games of the season. Teams might as well start selling playoff tickets based on the first two weeks.

I really don’t care what Matt says. It’s clear when you’re not reading something.
- Rinosaur

Like ...don't care ever?

One thing about the Simon debates that's bothered me is that some of his strongest defenders like RE will go out of their way to point out the little things he does that don't end up as points but lead to goals because they support that player, but will almost never mention when a guy like Hornqvist or Tanev does the same.

All 3 had such a play against Columbus, and I saw a ton of "look, notice what Simon does" and not a lot of "look at how Hornqvist's screen led to a PP goal" because he doesn't want him on the PP.

Basically, I love seeing the subtle plays pointed out, but you read some articles and you'd think Simon is the only guy making them. I value what Simon brings even as I wish he'd score more, but I also think Hornqvist has been criminally under-rated by that same standard.
- Tojo.

Yep. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Both guys do little things that don’t show up on the score sheet but because Tanev is fast and hits he’s more noticeable than the little things Simon does (which are equally important).

Like ...don't care ever?


- MattStrat

It’s okay Matt. At least your girl is hot.

Edit: OR IS SHE?