I liked seeing miller with risto

perhaps something to see when montour comes back

miller-risto
dahlin-montour
mccabe-joker
- homiedclown

I like these pairings a lot. Miller has been our best dman so far and the way he’s playing joker should remain in the lineup. If they send Gilmour down (if he clears waivers) and sit joker in favor of Scandella that’s Plain wrong

flip olofsson to the right

skinner-eichel-olofsson
casey-cozens-reinhart


top 6 for the next 5 years set in stone
- homiedclown

My top 9 next year would look like this. Spread the scoring between 3 lines:

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Mitts-Cozens-Reinhart
Olofsson-Asplund-Johansson

Yes, they put whistles away. But if they had made the calls on all that they let go earlier in game, the score is maybe already tied by that point, or even Buffalo is the team with goalie pulled. The only thing more egregious about that non call than the others was the time left on the clock.
- Ratsreign

Please do explain. They let plenty more fla penalties go than buffalo. They called those two ridiculous slash calls on buffalo as markup calls

I think the hurricanes are legit

top 2 team in their division
- homiedclown

Svechnikov has been a monster to start the year. If they don’t have the best D-corps in the league it’s up there.

Good post Homie

That's 4 penalties in 5 games for dahlin.

He will bounce back.
- Boss34

The one yesterday was a makeup call, extremely questionable slash

Fancy stats say though that the last 3 games we’ve been out chanced and out played. Obviously it’s nice to take the points but we have to be much better or were bound to regress big time just like after the 10 game streak last year.
- Swedish_Jesus

I agree with Columbus. They were desperate and took it to us.

I think you’re incorrect about the last two games. We outshot and outchanced Montreal. They got two lucky bounces off the end wall leading to two goals. As for last night, fla might have outshot us but we had the more dangerous shots. We missed at least 2 breakaways and Larsson and middlestadt missed wide open nets. If it wasn’t for how well Bob played in the first 2 periods we may have been up 4-5 to 0 going into the 3rd

My top 9 next year would look like this. Spread the scoring between 3 lines:

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Mitts-Cozens-Reinhart
Olofsson-Asplund-Johansson
- Swedish_Jesus

I agree those will be the 9, unless Davidsson forces them to keep him with his play next fall

The one yesterday was a makeup call, extremely questionable slash
- turbo044

The Wennberg interference call should have been 2 for diving for wennberg. That was brutal

I agree those will be the 9, unless Davidsson forces them to keep him with his play next fall
- homiedclown

I think he gets the Asplund treatment in Roch. He is still playing bottom 6 minutes on a team who has won 3 out of their first 10 games.

I agree with Columbus. They were desperate and took it to us.

I think you’re incorrect about the last two games. We outshot and outchanced Montreal. They got two lucky bounces off the end wall leading to two goals. As for last night, fla might have outshot us but we had the more dangerous shots. We missed at least 2 breakaways and Larsson and middlestadt missed wide open nets. If it wasn’t for how well Bob played in the first 2 periods we may have been up 4-5 to 0 going into the 3rd
- turbo044

Bob certainly came up huge, but if it wasn't for how good Ullmark played in the first two periods, it's still a one goal game starting the third. 4-3 instead of 1-0?
As for the refs, the shift that ended with Hoffman taking the cross checking penalty, they let two or three things go right beforehand. Before the frustrated Hoffman committed his foul the play should've/could've already been whistled down with a Sabre going to the box. Sabres scored right after Hoffman stepped out of the box. It's easier for fans to forget the ones that their team got away with. They let poop go both ways all night. It was a fun game to watch. I won't argue with your stance that the call on Dahlin was a make up call. The refs always seem to try to get the PP chances to an equal number by the games end.

"They blew" sometimes you have to give the other team some credit. Florida had a lot of 20+ goal scorers last year, they have talent.
- GilPerreault11

This gets lost so often. The other team gets a vote too. You don't always get to do everything you want to do.

There's so many misconceptions on these things. You're off on both areas.

First IR provides no salary relief at all, just opens a roster spot.

Second, LTIR does not take take a contract off the cap. It's a complex process, and even when we manipulated it almost perfectly for Hunwick, you see on Cap Friendly, that our ACSL (our effective cap) is 81,472,024, just under the 81.5m full cap. Every $ we spend over 81,472,024 counts towards our 2.25m relief pool.

If we put Bogo on LTIR at the beginning of the season, there would have been no benefit. We have the flexibility to put him on LTIR later on, and go through a new round of calculations.
- Lunaion

Great explanation. Thanks for the lesson.

Fancy stats say though that the last 3 games we’ve been out chanced and out played. Obviously it’s nice to take the points but we have to be much better or were bound to regress big time just like after the 10 game streak last year.
- Swedish_Jesus

The 15-16 Panthers, led by a coach who emphasized playing as five men together, while not numbering his lines, sucked at corsi/fancy stats all the way to 103 pts and a division title. After a dissapointing playoff defeat, they made changes to the team heavily influenced by corsi/fancy stats.....ummm I don't want to think about 16-17.

The 15-16 Panthers, led by a coach who emphasized playing as five men together, while not numbering his lines, sucked at corsi/fancy stats all the way to 103 pts and a division title. After a dissapointing playoff defeat, they made changes to the team heavily influenced by corsi/fancy stats.....ummm I don't want to think about 16-17.
- Ratsreign

Think you answered your own question there


Fancy stats have been saying the Hurricanes were on the brink of stardom for the past 4 years and last year they got rewarded for it, this year they look like they are going to run away with the metro.

Think you answered your own question there


Fancy stats have been saying the Hurricanes were on the brink of stardom for the past 4 years and last year they got rewarded for it, this year they look like they are going to run away with the metro.
- Swedish_Jesus

Goaltending sunk the Hurricanes, plain and simple, from 14-15 to 17-18 their SV% was .904, .907, .907, .901. And then, shock of shocks, last year when they were suddenly a good team it was .915, and so far this year is .931. Their SH% didn't help them that much either, same time period, 6.3, 7.4, 7.6, 7.6 and then 18-19 8.0.

Boston, for instance had .926, .917, .908, .917, .924. And the SH% was 7.7, 8.2, 7.5, 8.9, 8.2.

All stats from hockey reference using EV numbers.

How about going after Eric Staal from Minnesota? They are terrible and need to rebuild. They are off to an 0-3 start. He is 34 and has two years at 3.25M on his contract without a NMC. He would add leadership and experience to a young club. And it’s a realistic acquisition.

22g 30a last year, 70+ points the year before.

It might be a good option for a second line center, allowing Johansson to move to wing and fill out our top 6. Plus he would have Skinner on his wing, someone he knows to help him feel welcome.

Maybe we could send Scandella or Sobotka for salary space, a prospect and/or a pick or two.

Think you answered your own question there


Fancy stats have been saying the Hurricanes were on the brink of stardom for the past 4 years and last year they got rewarded for it, this year they look like they are going to run away with the metro.
- Swedish_Jesus

But, I didn't ask a question. I'm just saying be careful putting all your faith in fancy stats. There are some things that they can't measure. FL didn't lose that playoff series due to being out-Corsied, they lost because they just didn't capitalize on their many, many chances to take control of things. The Corsi Crew took them from 103 pts to out of the playoffs. Alienating and firing a very good coach along the way.

How about going after Eric Staal from Minnesota? They are terrible and need to rebuild. They are off to an 0-3 start. He is 34 and has two years at 3.25M on his contract without a NMC. He would add leadership and experience to a young club. And it’s a realistic acquisition.

22g 30a last year, 70+ points the year before.

It might be a good option for a second line center, allowing Johansson to move to wing and fill out our top 6. Plus he would have Skinner on his wing, someone he knows to help him feel welcome.

Maybe we could send Scandella or Sobotka for salary space, a prospect and/or a pick or two.
- Beethoven

I can't imagine Minn doing that week 2 of the season.

But, I didn't ask a question. I'm just saying be careful putting all your faith in fancy stats. There are some things that they can't measure. FL didn't lose that playoff series due to being out-Corsied, they lost because they just didn't capitalize on their many, many chances to take control of things. The Corsi Crew took them from 103 pts to out of the playoffs. Alienating and firing a very good coach along the way.
- Ratsreign

I never said analytics are the end all be all. Like you mentioned it doesn’t account for luck, overall talent level or heart. I’d say it accounts for 50% of it. However it doesn’t take a rocket science to
Figure out though if you are getting a lot of chances for and not as many against you are generally going to win more then you lose.

How about going after Eric Staal from Minnesota? They are terrible and need to rebuild. They are off to an 0-3 start. He is 34 and has two years at 3.25M on his contract without a NMC. He would add leadership and experience to a young club. And it’s a realistic acquisition.

22g 30a last year, 70+ points the year before.

It might be a good option for a second line center, allowing Johansson to move to wing and fill out our top 6. Plus he would have Skinner on his wing, someone he knows to help him feel welcome.

Maybe we could send Scandella or Sobotka for salary space, a prospect and/or a pick or two.
- Beethoven

Bravo!
I brought this up early in the offseason, as I believe he would be absolutely perfect for the Sabres.
Minni knows it and wouldn't let him go cheaply...I would hope Botts has inquired.

How about going after Eric Staal from Minnesota? They are terrible and need to rebuild. They are off to an 0-3 start. He is 34 and has two years at 3.25M on his contract without a NMC. He would add leadership and experience to a young club. And it’s a realistic acquisition.

22g 30a last year, 70+ points the year before.

It might be a good option for a second line center, allowing Johansson to move to wing and fill out our top 6. Plus he would have Skinner on his wing, someone he knows to help him feel welcome.

Maybe we could send Scandella or Sobotka for salary space, a prospect and/or a pick or two.
- Beethoven

Yea he’s definitely a guy I’ve thought of as well. If not him Mikko Koivu is a rental option. I can’t see Minny dealing either of them though until the deadline.

Goaltending sunk the Hurricanes, plain and simple, from 14-15 to 17-18 their SV% was .904, .907, .907, .901. And then, shock of shocks, last year when they were suddenly a good team it was .915, and so far this year is .931. Their SH% didn't help them that much either, same time period, 6.3, 7.4, 7.6, 7.6 and then 18-19 8.0.

Boston, for instance had .926, .917, .908, .917, .924. And the SH% was 7.7, 8.2, 7.5, 8.9, 8.2.

All stats from hockey reference using EV numbers.
- Wetbandit1

Having one of the best d-corps in hockey and playing a majority of your time in the offensive zone helps the goaltender though.

the new Breaking Bad movie .... masterpiece.

Mammoser’s wings are legit af

How about going after Eric Staal from Minnesota? They are terrible and need to rebuild. They are off to an 0-3 start. He is 34 and has two years at 3.25M on his contract without a NMC. He would add leadership and experience to a young club. And it’s a realistic acquisition.

22g 30a last year, 70+ points the year before.

It might be a good option for a second line center, allowing Johansson to move to wing and fill out our top 6. Plus he would have Skinner on his wing, someone he knows to help him feel welcome.

Maybe we could send Scandella or Sobotka for salary space, a prospect and/or a pick or two.
- Beethoven

I don't think Staal has any desire to waive his NTC. I think it's part of the reason his contract is so affordable