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Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 13 @ 5:08 AM ET
Wouldn’t the “disappointing playoff defeat” satisfy the regression that you then referred to ?
- Swedish_Jesus

Dude, I'm saying that the corsi said all year they were gonna crash, weren't gonna make it far, would be lucky if even made playoffs...and yet they kept going all the way to 103 pts and a division title. The "disappointing loss" was only mentioned to lead into the fact that the Corsi disciples took over the next season and fukked everything up. Never mind.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 13 @ 8:43 AM ET
4-0-1

WE WANT 5
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:55 AM ET
4-0-1

WE WANT 5

- homiedclown


Good morning Holmes.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 13 @ 9:07 AM ET
Good morning Holmes.
- Der Kaiser

Top of the morning to you
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 13 @ 9:29 AM ET
I don't think Staal has any desire to waive his NTC. I think it's part of the reason his contract is so affordable
- jcragcrumple

I am pretty sure I read that if Minny didn't re-sign him he was going to retire. He has no desire to play anywhere else.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
Wouldn’t the “disappointing playoff defeat” satisfy the regression that you then referred to ?
- Swedish_Jesus

Pretty sure any loss would be a "disappointing playoff defeat". They lost to an Isles team who also hit the 100pt mark. Of the losses, one was in OT and two were in double OT. Sure it was disappointing, but it easily could have went either way.
A real "disappointing playoff defeat" would be what happened to Tampa Bay last year.

Edit:
The Panthers had a higher Corsi in 4 out of 6 games including a 65-35 difference in the game one 5-4 loss.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 13 @ 9:47 AM ET
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Here's a chance for all you armchair GMs to actually talk with the owner and tell her what you think.
Shadman306
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Top of the morning to you
- homiedclown


Any insight into a plan when pilut and Montour come back?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
Any insight into a plan when pilut and Montour come back?
- Shadman306


I think the plan is to have Pilut in Rochester the rest of the season, unfortunately.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Oct 13 @ 10:08 AM ET
I think the plan is to have Pilut in Rochester the rest of the season, unfortunately.
- kingcong39

That’s a really bad plan
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Oct 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
Dude, I'm saying that the corsi said all year they were gonna crash, weren't gonna make it far, would be lucky if even made playoffs...and yet they kept going all the way to 103 pts and a division title. The "disappointing loss" was only mentioned to lead into the fact that the Corsi disciples took over the next season and fukked everything up. Never mind.
- Ratsreign


Ok, and I also said corsi doesn’t account for individual talent level, luck, or heart and was 50% of the equation. The Panthers defied the analytics and had a good season, that doesn’t change the fact that I think it would be a good idea for the Sabres to be in relatively good standing in the league in chances for and chances against.

The Bruins doubled the Blues in shots and chance attempts in Game 7 last year and lost. Corsi doesn’t account for a goalie getting hot, elite players who can change the outcome of the game on a single shot. I have continuously said the past few pages it is not the end all be all.

The Sabres on paper don’t have the teams that Tampa, Toronto, Boston, or even Florida at this point have, but they will remain competitive if they play with good defensive structure and limit their chances against.

Corsi is also a very broad concept and doesn’t take into account expected goals for or high danger scoring chances which also go a step further.

The Oakland Athletics have proven with “Money Ball” that analytics have their limitations but it doesn’t mean that they do not paint a picture of how teams in various sports leagues can find success in certain areas.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 13 @ 10:36 AM ET
Ok, and I also said corsi doesn’t account for individual talent level, luck, or heart and was 50% of the equation. The Panthers defied the analytics and had a good season, that doesn’t change the fact that I think it would be a good idea for the Sabres to be in relatively good standing in the league in chances for and chances against.

The Bruins doubled the Blues in shots and chance attempts in Game 7 last year and lost. Corsi doesn’t account for a goalie getting hot, elite players who can change the outcome of the game on a single shot. I have continuously said the past few pages it is not the end all be all.

The Sabres on paper don’t have the teams that Tampa, Toronto, Boston, or even Florida at this point have, but they will remain competitive if they play with good defensive structure and limit their chances against.

Corsi is also a very broad concept and doesn’t take into account expected goals for or high danger scoring chances which also go a step further.

The Oakland Athletics have proven with “Money Ball” that analytics have their limitations but it doesn’t mean that they do not paint a picture of how teams in various sports leagues can find success in certain areas.

- Swedish_Jesus


Relying solely on Advanced Stats is idiodic as they cannot account for every aspect that goes into winning.
Ignoring Advanced Stats is idiodic as they do offer up insights which offer an increased probability of improved play which likely lead to more wins.

Much like politics, leaning heavily in one direction or the other is not a solution, rather a problem.

Perhaps a less offensive (to some anyway) comparison would be to roster construct...having too much of one type of player style leads to shortcomings overall....too much finese opens one up to being run down by a more physical opponent; while having too much physical presence often detracts from having higher-end skills, even hockey IQ. Creating an optimal blend is usually the more successful path.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 13 @ 10:37 AM ET
That’s a really bad plan
- OneKaneOneCup



Why rush him? We're 4-0-1 and have plenty of. NHL defenseman. I'd like to see Gilmore in a game or 2?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 13 @ 10:43 AM ET
Why rush him? We're 4-0-1 and have plenty of. NHL defenseman. I'd like to see Gilmore in a game or 2?
- Boss34


It's not like he is a 19 year old. The guy showed that he can play in the league and at times played very well last year. If we have guys that we know are the future and are ready to play in the league then they should play over guys who aren't part of the future. If last night's report is true (Joker and Goaloffson are safe) then in two weeks both Scandella and Risto should be gone.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Oct 13 @ 10:46 AM ET
Why rush him? We're 4-0-1 and have plenty of. NHL defenseman. I'd like to see Gilmore in a game or 2?
- Boss34

Sure. Unless a move is made Gilmour gets waived too.

Pilut is a good NHL D man. He needs to get a lot of games here.

I hope he does
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 13 @ 10:53 AM ET
4-0-1

WE WANT 5

- homiedclown


4

76

and 2
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 13 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think the plan is to have Pilut in Rochester the rest of the season, unfortunately.
- kingcong39


Is that your plan
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 13 @ 10:57 AM ET
Sure. Unless a move is made Gilmour gets waived too.

Pilut is a good NHL D man. He needs to get a lot of games here.

I hope he does

- OneKaneOneCup


Pilut has a lot to learn. He has work to do in his own zone. Kid is great beyond it, though
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Oct 13 @ 11:02 AM ET
Pilut has a lot to learn. He has work to do in his own zone. Kid is great beyond it, though
- TheSabresTaco

So does - 26,19,55,6,10, etc.

If the guys above can somehow look better defensively under Krueger, why wouldn’t Pilut?

Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 13 @ 11:02 AM ET
Pilut has a lot to learn. He has work to do in his own zone. Kid is great beyond it, though
- TheSabresTaco


He has already dominated down there. Nothing more to learn. He (like the rest of the team) was simply overrun when the wheels fell off last year.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 13 @ 11:08 AM ET
Sure. Unless a move is made Gilmour gets waived too.

Pilut is a good NHL D man. He needs to get a lot of games here.

I hope he does

- OneKaneOneCup

Before sending Gilmour down he should get a couple games here. Who says he can't be a good NHL dman as well? Pilut and Gilmour have the same total NHL games with similar numbers, however Gilmour's AHL numbers are far superior. Last year he had 20g and 34a in 70 games. I honestly can't say I've seen enough of Gilmour's play to see how his defensive game compares, but would like to see him a couple times before sending him down.
Also, not sure how the cap would be affected with Pilut earning $225k more in salary.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 13 @ 11:10 AM ET
Any insight into a plan when pilut and Montour come back?
- Shadman306

no clue
miller was playing LD with Risto

perhaps flip him there and scratch scandella


pilut looks to be an odd man out as of now
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 13 @ 11:13 AM ET
Before sending Gilmour down he should get a couple games here. Who says he can't be a good NHL dman as well? Pilut and Gilmour have the same total NHL games with similar numbers, however Gilmour's AHL numbers are far superior. Last year he had 20g and 34a in 70 games. .
- adambuffalo

ummm pilut had 26 points in 30 ahl games, and it was his first season in north america

not sure how gilmour has superior numbers


please explain
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Oct 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
Mr. Pachala

Just got around to your article.

You certainly read the writing on the wall and put your words where the play was! You are so far and away the best Hockey Writer
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
It's not like he is a 19 year old. The guy showed that he can play in the league and at times played very well last year. If we have guys that we know are the future and are ready to play in the league then they should play over guys who aren't part of the future. If last night's report is true (Joker and Goaloffson are safe) then in two weeks both Scandella and Risto should be gone.
- Slump Buster


4-0-1 and you want to rush our young defenseman?

We're winning- finally

You aren't content, change out some veterans and add more inexperienced guys to a already young team with a new system?

I'm fine winning
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