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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
well.... 60 games is your answer-

all I can say to that is "interesting"

I'm no pro coach... but I'm guessing here, maybe reaching... if my team's PP or PK sucked or under performed for 3/4 of the season and I was seen to not do anything about it... I might be unemployed by the 40 game mark.

but that's just me.

- BorjeFan4Ever


I honestly dont even know what this means..

but this is one of my fav videos
https://www.youtube.com/w...gISa9Giw&feature=youtu.be

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
I honestly dont even know what this means..

but this is one of my fav videos
https://www.youtube.com/w...gISa9Giw&feature=youtu.be

- senstroll


Get out of here with your numbers
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 14 @ 12:36 PM ET
meh
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 14 @ 12:51 PM ET
Marleau >> Marner
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Oct 14 @ 1:05 PM ET
Marleau >> Marner
- AdamFrench


oh just when I thought it couldn't get any more moronic in here
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
NJ is down 1-0 already.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Oct 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
I honestly dont even know what this means..

but this is one of my fav videos
https://www.youtube.com/w...gISa9Giw&feature=youtu.be

- senstroll



okay.... (sigh)... I'll attempt to dumb it down

If you wait to the 60 game mark to evaluate the performance of your team or special teams or whatever...

I would suggest you would be unemployed very quickly...

translated 60 games is moronic


I honestly thought that someone might say it needs to be 15-20 games to be statistically significant (which would be incorrect)... but I can understand that 15-20% of the season would be understandable to want to look at

10 games out of 82 game season should be enough to show you a trend unless your are a stubborn guy like Bablord

60 game - I'm guessing you don't spend much time doing stats
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 14 @ 1:12 PM ET
NJ is down 1-0 already.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I didn't have Hynes as the first fired, but it'll be him.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 14 @ 1:13 PM ET
I didn't have Hynes as the first fired, but it'll be him.
- AdamFrench


He's lucky Hall just finally scored. 1-1.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
I didn't have Hynes as the first fired, but it'll be him.
- AdamFrench


Hynes plays goalie?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
the blogs/articles would be hilarious
- BorjeFan4Ever


It's literally the only reason I wouldn't mind it happening.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 14 @ 1:15 PM ET
He's lucky Hall just finally scored. 1-1.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Jersey has a decent team on paper and he's been there awhile. Maybe Boudreau gets the axe first, but it seems a tossup.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
Hynes plays goalie?
- Tumbleweed

Easier move to make than get a goalie.
BorjeFan4Ever
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Oct 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
It's literally the only reason I wouldn't mind it happening.
- GreatGigInTheSky


the Garpmeister would be on suicide watch
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
okay.... (sigh)... I'll attempt to dumb it down

If you wait to the 60 game mark to evaluate the performance of your team or special teams or whatever...

I would suggest you would be unemployed very quickly...

translated 60 games is moronic


I honestly thought that someone might say it needs to be 15-20 games to be statistically significant (which would be incorrect)... but I can understand that 15-20% of the season would be understandable to want to look at

10 games out of 82 game season should be enough to show you a trend unless your are a stubborn guy like Bablord

60 game - I'm guessing you don't spend much time doing stats

- BorjeFan4Ever


I didnt do the calculations.

you asked this question
how many games - what percentage of the season is sufficient to begin to measure the results?


so the answer stands.

Now if you want to ask what is my opinion on how many games a team should wait to makes a change? thats a different questin.

But a smart GM should be looking at the underlying data to see what is happening and how the team is preforming..outside of the standing and points.

but for a team that is good like the leafs, waiting for a large chunk of the season to play out is probably good.


annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Oct 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
I watched the game at the pub so I couldn't see it entirely but it looked like an elbow and he was hit in the head.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Shoulder to head, head was 1st part of contact and the guy sort of jumped into the hit.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
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Oct 14 @ 1:23 PM ET
I didnt do the calculations.

you asked this question


so the answer stands.

Now if you want to ask what is my opinion on how many games a team should wait to makes a change? thats a different questin.

But a smart GM should be looking at the underlying data to see what is happening and how the team is preforming..outside of the standing and points.

but for a team that is good like the leafs, waiting for a large chunk of the season to play out is probably good.

- senstroll


so again... trying to make this easy...

your large chuck of the season - APPROXIMATELY how many games is that?

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 14 @ 1:25 PM ET
Jersey has a decent team on paper and he's been there awhile. Maybe Boudreau gets the axe first, but it seems a tossup.
- AdamFrench


Hughes hasn't done anything yet, Subban has been really bad, Hischier hasn't done nothing, and Hall has been snakebit. Hall finally got the monkey off his back now but, I think they're gonna need everyone else to step up on top of needing much better goaltending. I personally don't think they're a playoff team but I don't think they'll continue to be the worst in the league, either.

Minnesota is pretty bad, too. I can see Boudreau being the first to get poopcanned.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 1:25 PM ET
Shoulder to head, head was 1st part of contact and the guy sort of jumped into the hit.
- annoyed


there is no way you can stop that kind of thing if you keep hitting in the game.

His shoulder isnt explicitly hitting his head, its just Sandin is in a hunched over angle which lowers his head. and you cant stop the force of his head moving forward and hitting his shoulder when they collide.

Its just the nature of body check, the player throwing a hit positions himself to protect his body and tucks in the arm. again..shorter players bending their legs and coming in lower with their head forward are bound to have that happen.

also I dont see his skates leaving the ice
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
Shoulder to head, head was 1st part of contact and the guy sort of jumped into the hit.
- annoyed




So then like people were saying, it wasn't a clean hit.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 1:29 PM ET
so again... trying to make this easy...

your large chuck of the season - APPROXIMATELY how many games is that?

- BorjeFan4Ever


no more than 82
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 1:30 PM ET


So then like people were saying, it wasn't a clean hit.

- GreatGigInTheSky


can it both be not clean and not dirty?

https://twitter.com/TheFl...tatus/1183188882072002561

gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Oct 14 @ 1:31 PM ET
That Mikheyev guy is pretty good... is he RFA next year? My only worry is he’s playing out of what we can afford. I guess you rather have this problem than underperforming players but if that happens...

MM’s contract doesn’t look too good right now, in more than one way.

Hopefully he will embarrass his critics by the end of the season; otherwise, expect lots of blame games after the season.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 14 @ 1:34 PM ET
can it both be not clean and not dirty?

https://twitter.com/TheFl...tatus/1183188882072002561

- senstroll


If it's accidental, yeah. Abdelkader has done garbage like that a lot. He went high on Sandin.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 1:37 PM ET
If it's accidental, yeah. Abdelkader has done garbage like that a lot. He went high on Sandin.
- GreatGigInTheSky


I see only 1 option then, dont throw a hit in that situation
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