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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 16 @ 4:09 PM ET
😂


Have to say I'm not sure of the exact rules. But a player that goes on LTIR has to be on for 10 games minimum - no relief for bonuses, but any salary for the season can be applied as far as I am aware. Probably a question for Frenchie

- winsix


If you can't include bonuses...probably doesn't leave much to gain if it's 1 of our big dogs anyways.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 16 @ 4:09 PM ET
If Mikheyev and Moore keep it up they could trade a more expensive winger to free up cap space.
- aminnes


yup.

especially if they think they can bring in another khl player next year.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 16 @ 4:10 PM ET
yup.

especially if they think they can bring in another khl player next year.

- Tumbleweed



Like Grigorenko?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 16 @ 4:11 PM ET
Never a fan, but sad really, says something about the lousy pension plan at the NHL , I think Brashear played over 1000 games.
- winsix

He made $16,262,041 in career earnings.

Even if you subtract half of that for taxes and agents, etc., he's still squandered a fortune.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:12 PM ET
He made $16,262,041 in career earnings.

Even if you subtract half of that for taxes and agents, etc., he's still squandered a fortune.

- Atomic Wedgie


How the hell does that happen so often? Modano gambled a fortune away. It's crazy.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 4:19 PM ET
Like Grigorenko?
- PatC80



Freakorenko*
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 16 @ 4:19 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky


love it
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 4:21 PM ET
If you can't include bonuses...probably doesn't leave much to gain if it's 1 of our big dogs anyways.
- Garnie


There are performance bonuses and signing bonuses. From what I've seen on a quick google search, signing bonus is part of the salary. this is a breakdown of the big three. (please don't tell me that the signing bonus number for Mitch wasn't part of wanting to have the biggest d!ck on the team!)

Matthews signing $15.2M salary $700K total Salary $15.9M
Tavares signing $15.25M salary $650K total Salary $15.9M
Marner signing $15.3M salary $700K total Salary $16.0M
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 4:24 PM ET
He made $16,262,041 in career earnings.

Even if you subtract half of that for taxes and agents, etc., he's still squandered a fortune.

- Atomic Wedgie


Agree, but that's why responsible companies (unlike the NHL) set up pensions. Say 4% with a matching 4% would have given him money to live on that he couldn't have squandered or snorted.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 16 @ 4:26 PM ET
There are performance bonuses and signing bonuses. From what I've seen on a quick google search, signing bonus is part of the salary. this is a breakdown of the big three. (please don't tell me that the signing bonus number for Mitch wasn't part of wanting to have the biggest d!ck on the team!)

Matthews signing $15.2M salary $700K total Salary $15.9M
Tavares signing $15.25M salary $650K total Salary $15.9M
Matthews signing $15.3M salary $700K total Salary $16.0M

- winsix

mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 16 @ 4:29 PM ET
How the hell does that happen so often? Modano gambled a fortune away. It's crazy.
- aminnes


Injuries upon injuries, opiod addictions as a result. Or just young and rich and not necessarily educated on how to keep the money by the time you're out of the league.
bullethead7
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.26.2007

Oct 16 @ 4:32 PM ET


Now you own 18 of them?

- Garnie


I wish. Now my only association with them is when I visit the drive-thru.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 16 @ 4:37 PM ET
How the hell does that happen so often? Modano gambled a fortune away. It's crazy.
- aminnes

Modano did not gamble a fortune away.

He lost about $4 million on a bad investments.



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
Agree, but that's why responsible companies (unlike the NHL) set up pensions. Say 4% with a matching 4% would have given him money to live on that he couldn't have squandered or snorted.
- winsix

The NHL (and NHLPA) do have a pension plan.

https://www.investopedia....thlete-pension-plans.aspx

True Wedgie Story:

A friend is a money manager. One of his clients is a former NHLer - still active in media (everyone here would know his name).

At the start of his career, his agent set the player up with a financial plan - which includes an allowance.

The player (now ex-player) gets X amount a year - and not a franking penny more.

Player agreed to it at the start, still loves the plan, and is happy and financially secure.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 16 @ 4:42 PM ET
The NHL (and NHLPA) do have a pension plan.

https://www.investopedia....thlete-pension-plans.aspx

True Wedgie Story:

A friend is a money manager. One of his clients is a former NHLer - still active in media (everyone here would know his name).

At the start of his career, his agent set the player up with a financial plan - which includes an allowance.

The player (now ex-player) gets X amount a year - and not a franking penny more.

Player agreed to it at the start, still loves the plan, and is happy and financially secure.

- Atomic Wedgie


My guess is O'Neill, he keeps going on about that stuff on radio.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:44 PM ET

- 21peter


Just,,, fu kin gross. Ban should follow.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:47 PM ET
Modano did not gamble a fortune away.

He lost about $4 million on a bad investments.

- Atomic Wedgie


He went almost flat broke, and that couldn't be from 4 million, he made 77 in his career. That 4 million was what he had left after he drank, snorted and gambled everything else away.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
There are performance bonuses and signing bonuses. From what I've seen on a quick google search, signing bonus is part of the salary. this is a breakdown of the big three. (please don't tell me that the signing bonus number for Mitch wasn't part of wanting to have the biggest d!ck on the team!)

Matthews signing $15.2M salary $700K total Salary $15.9M
Tavares signing $15.25M salary $650K total Salary $15.9M
Matthews signing $15.3M salary $700K total Salary $16.0M

- winsix



Matthews seems to be double dipping
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
He went almost flat broke, and that couldn't be from 4 million, he made 77 in his career. That 4 million was what he had left after he drank, snorted and gambled everything else away.
- aminnes


Were you his dealer, or his dealer?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:49 PM ET
Matthews seems to be double dipping
- Garnie


He is very good.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 16 @ 4:49 PM ET
Like Grigorenko?
- PatC80


Anytime you have a chance to add the best player in the world, you make that move
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:50 PM ET
Were you his dealer, or his dealer?
- bixll


Well, if they knew where he lost the money - investments, real estate etc. they would report it. Money up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hookers? lol
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:51 PM ET
Well, if they knew where he lost the money - investments, real estate etc. they would report it. Money up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hookers? lol
- aminnes



Oh, the pimp.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 16 @ 4:58 PM ET
Just,,, fu kin gross. Ban should follow.
- bixll

It's a HB classic

*trap*
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