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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Oct 16 @ 5:00 PM ET
Anytime you have a chance to add the best player in the world, you make that move
- Tumbleweed

Freakorenko, Snipeshow and the Latvian Locomotive. Who could stop that?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 16 @ 5:01 PM ET
Continuing our great debate from the last thread, the only change I see at the deadline in terms of defence is bringing Sandin back up.

We can't afford to do anything else.

- Atomic Wedgie


I agree. Dubas seems to have set his roster for the season already and doesn't want to mix it up midway.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 16 @ 5:05 PM ET
Well, if they knew where he lost the money - investments, real estate etc. they would report it. Money up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hookers? lol
- aminnes


Sometimes people stop listening to their advisors because the person pitching to them makes it seem too good to be true and "is a nice person".
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 16 @ 5:14 PM ET
Sometimes people stop listening to their advisors because the person pitching to them makes it seem too good to be true and "is a nice person".
- Aaron_85


True. He did do some good stuff later in his career and is fine now. I think Tockett literally gambled his money completely away during his playing days.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 16 @ 5:20 PM ET
True. He did do some good stuff later in his career and is fine now. I think Tockett literally gambled his money completely away during his playing days.
- aminnes


Average athletes are broke 5 years after they are done playing. I know that's NBA but unsure of other ones. I'm pretty confident it's a low number regardless.

People don't like to think itll run out and too many people around just feeding the ego, lifting the person up to keep making bad decisions.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 5:43 PM ET
The NHL (and NHLPA) do have a pension plan.

https://www.investopedia....thlete-pension-plans.aspx

True Wedgie Story:

A friend is a money manager. One of his clients is a former NHLer - still active in media (everyone here would know his name).

At the start of his career, his agent set the player up with a financial plan - which includes an allowance.

The player (now ex-player) gets X amount a year - and not a franking penny more.

Player agreed to it at the start, still loves the plan, and is happy and financially secure.

- Atomic Wedgie


Thanks for the link Wedgie - quite a good article and verifies that the NHL pension plan is pathetic. There are a few issues here, including greedy and slimey managers, but the fact that most of these NHL players did not have a decent formal education, especially when it comes to finances and business is an issue. In addition, if the player comes from humble beginnings, just like the lottery winners that are broke withing a few months or years - the money is very easy to blow with all the temptations available.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 5:47 PM ET
Matthews seems to be double dipping
- Garnie


My bad, last line should be Marner, damm the paste function!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 16 @ 5:48 PM ET
I agree. Dubas seems to have set his roster for the season already and doesn't want to mix it up midway.
- Aaron_85

I disagree, the TDL is 5 months away. It very silly to be saying this already.

If they want to add to the defence then guys like Ceci can be traded away to make the cap work.

Regardless, it’s way to early to be talking about adding or not adding right now.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 5:49 PM ET
I disagree, the TDL is 5 months away. It very silly to be saying this already.

If they want to add to the defence then guys like Ceci can be traded away to make the cap work.

Regardless, it’s way to early to be talking about adding or not adding right now.

- Santo_44



Blow it up. Rebuild properly. Captain Biggs.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 16 @ 5:50 PM ET
Blow it up. Rebuild properly. Captain Biggs.
- Steven_Seagull

Blow it up.

Make the TDL splash.

Don’t add anyone.

winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 5:51 PM ET
Blow it up. Rebuild properly. Captain Biggs.
- Steven_Seagull


Hire CKOUG as an advisor to Babschlong
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
Hire CKOUG as an advisor to Babschlong
- winsix

if this results in moar gritz im in
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
if this results in moar gritz im in
- daeth


He'll nag him to daeth

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 5:58 PM ET
Hire CKOUG as an advisor to Babschlong
- winsix



This is just stupid enough to work. Make it happen, Dubas.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 16 @ 6:01 PM ET
Weird thing about Kappanen is that when he plays on the 3rd line, he looks like he deserves to be at least on the 2nd line, when put there, he looks lost! Just as well keep him on the 3rd line so he'll look like a 2nd line player!
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Oct 16 @ 6:12 PM ET
If you can't include bonuses...probably doesn't leave much to gain if it's 1 of our big dogs anyways.
- Garnie


Could that be the reason Ceci wasn't given a bonus heavy contract....like I've heard people whining about around these boards.

Seems like trading Ceci wasn't a concern....although by the TDL only a portion of his salary is still owed vs the Cap hit.

So seems to me that Dubas and Prindsomething signed Ceci thinking:
1. We get rid of Zaitsev contract.
2. If he gets injured during the season we can apply his WHOLE un-bonused salary to IR or LTIR
3. If he does well and we want to trade him at the TDL only the remainder of his salary is the real hit so he could potentially have some trade value if he gets his game back.

VS

Let's give Ceci a bonus heavy contract so we can trade him when he sucks and has no value now and we've given him $3Milly cash bonus.

Hmmm, maybe Dubas & Co. were smart about the Ceci contract.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 16 @ 6:19 PM ET
Weird thing about Kappanen is that when he plays on the 3rd line, he looks like he deserves to be at least on the 2nd line, when put there, he looks lost! Just as well keep him on the 3rd line so he'll look like a 2nd line player!
- NewfieStud

he didn't look lost last year when he was on his correct side.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Oct 16 @ 6:19 PM ET
This is just stupid enough to work. Make it happen, Dubas.
- Steven_Seagull

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 16 @ 6:22 PM ET
He'll nag him to daeth


- winsix

what game is this

i need it
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Oct 16 @ 6:22 PM ET
Weird thing about Kappanen is that when he plays on the 3rd line, he looks like he deserves to be at least on the 2nd line, when put there, he looks lost! Just as well keep him on the 3rd line so he'll look like a 2nd line player!
- NewfieStud


Not sure about that....he's look great higher up the line up. Just think the role he was expected to do on his off-wing was a big ask for him and unlike when he plays with Matthews/Nylander, Nylander is more of the boards/cycle guy...without the crash n bang Hyman style.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 16 @ 6:44 PM ET
*trades everyone*
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Oct 16 @ 6:51 PM ET
Link? Apparently I don’t have sportsnet one but it’s also not on center ice so that’s cool
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 16 @ 6:52 PM ET
Link? Apparently I don’t have sportsnet one but it’s also not on center ice so that’s cool
- ClarksonDavid



gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Oct 16 @ 6:58 PM ET
new sand bag everyone
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Oct 16 @ 6:59 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull

Never mind... got it figured out
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