Point went right over your head.

- MJL

If you had a clue you would be sitting on the floor playing with it. You would be extremely dangerous is allowed to be unsupervised, haha

Both officials shielded from seeing the hook to the hands, based on the replay.

Still a fantastic display by McDavid. Braun was victimized.
- Tomahawk

Maybe but it was a penalty. Just blazing speed. He turned another giveaway in the Edmonton zone at the circles into a goal the other way. Just really hard to stop that. From his end to your net instantly!

He wasn't schooled. Blocking him would of resulted in an interference penalty. Maybe that would of had a better result if they could've killed off the penalty but who knows. Hart made a mistake trying to poke check there. MacDavid is too skilled. He'll learn.
- MJL

Obviously you have never played the game, getting in a forward's face is part of the game without drawing a penalty. In this case Braun was just sloppy period, but hey it was McDavid and he can make anyone look bad.

Obviously you have never played the game, getting in a forward's face is part of the game without drawing a penalty. In this case Braun was just sloppy period, but hey it was McDavid and he can make anyone look bad.
- joegreif17

However I do know that just because they've been playing Hayes with Giroux, doesn't mean that they think that Hayes is a #1 center and Couturier is not. I do know that basic point. Despite "never playing the game".

Actually if you watch the latest Behind the Glass episode, there is a scene where Flyers GM Chuck Fletcher (Note: He's a real GM, not someone claiming to be) discusses with Dave Scott the coaching staff's reasoning for switching Hayes and Couturier. Turns out it's for the same reason as I suggested in an earlier post.

Yup Hagg is a glorified 6/7 defensive defenseman that fills a role not many on the team does or willing to do, which is why multiple head coaches have had him consistently slotted in the top 6 for years now.

I get it, some fans want the Flyers to have 6 or 7 top 4 Bobby Orr smooth skating new age transitional puck movers, but unfortunately no current NHL team or team from the past has ever had that...EVER. The best of the best defensive cores in the NHL all use these players...Calgary has them, Carolina has them, Tampa has them...umm St. Louis won the cup with them.

But again at the end of the day someone has to be hated and the best place to start is the 6/7 defenseman or some 4th liner.
- Glak18

I dont want orr at d6, just myers. someone who can skate or pass the puck out of the zone. as someone posted, hagg just chips puck out to other team. his advanced metrics were 2nd worse in league of all dman accd to broad street hockey column after last season end.

nice

Not sure why people are all over Braun for that play, it's Mcdavid, that was one of his 5 points... Let it be. Yes, no stick play to be made, bouncing puck is always a crap situation for a Dman.
- ClaudeFather

real question is would have McD scored if provy, sanhiem, nisky, or ghost were covering. i assume goal w hagg

i hope farabee scores 2 or 3 goals this weekend. then he will be up in philly by the following week.

I think, for whatever that’s worth, everyone needs to take a step back from the ledge and realize where we are as a franchise. Fletcher wasn’t going to come in here and make us an instant Cup contender, despite what Dave Scott wants, in a matter of one year.

There isn’t much pure talent in terms of flashy exciting hockey players, there’s talented players, just not of the flashy McDavid, MacKinnon, Pettersson, etc. kind of players. This a lunch bucket group. Hell, even Hextall inherited Giroux, Voracek and Couturier, they’ve been here a long time.

They’re a slow-(ish) team in a league that now plays a fast skilled game.

I dont want orr at d6, just myers. someone who can skate or pass the puck out of the zone. as someone posted, hagg just chips puck out to other team. his advanced metrics were 2nd worse in league of all dman accd to broad street hockey column after last season end.
- biggbear77

Haag outplayed Myers in the pre season. Myers has to earn the spot.

real question is would have McD scored if provy, sanhiem, nisky, or ghost were covering. i assume goal w hagg
- biggbear77

Of course goal with Haag.

real question is would have McD scored if provy, sanhiem, nisky, or ghost were covering. i assume goal w hagg
- biggbear77

No the real Question is would McDavid score if Manning was still on the team?

However I do know that just because they've been playing Hayes with Giroux, doesn't mean that they think that Hayes is a #1 center and Couturier is not. I do know that basic point. Despite "never playing the game".

Actually if you watch the latest Behind the Glass episode, there is a scene where Flyers GM Chuck Fletcher (Note: He's a real GM, not someone claiming to be) discusses with Dave Scott the coaching staff's reasoning for switching Hayes and Couturier. Turns out it's for the same reason as I suggested in an earlier post.
- MJL

Couturier is the #1 center regardless of who he is playing with. That is indisputable.

However I do know that just because they've been playing Hayes with Giroux, doesn't mean that they think that Hayes is a #1 center and Couturier is not. I do know that basic point. Despite "never playing the game".

Actually if you watch the latest Behind the Glass episode, there is a scene where Flyers GM Chuck Fletcher (Note: He's a real GM, not someone claiming to be) discusses with Dave Scott the coaching staff's reasoning for switching Hayes and Couturier. Turns out it's for the same reason as I suggested in an earlier post.
- MJL

Hey MJL, you are the that was backing Hextall and Hakstol with your life when I was calling for both of them to be canned a year before it happened. You were wrong again mate

Couturier is the #1 center regardless of who he is playing with. That is indisputable.
- MBFlyerfan

Agree 100% as I have stated previously. Thank you.

Hey MJL, you are the that was backing Hextall and Hakstol with your life when I was calling for both of them to be canned a year before it happened. You were wrong again mate
- joegreif17

You're only half right there Joe! Why the deflection? What does that have to do with the discussion? You don't understand that linemates don't determine who the #1 center is. Voracek had been playing on the 3rd line. Is that because they thought he was a 3rd line winger?

Agree 100% as I have stated previously. Thank you.
- joegreif17

Nobody thinks differently. Including the Flyers. That's where you went wrong.

Haag outplayed Myers in the pre season. Myers has to earn the spot.
- MJL

I am not sure of that. Hagg is always a little bad. Myers forced things and made some aggressive plays with negative outcomes. This is why coach told him to simplify game. He can play like Hagg if he wanted to chip/loft the puck out of the d zone all the time too. Myers played better end of last season too, Much higher skill level than Hagg imho. WE NEED MORE SKILL ON ICE. AND WE HAVE IT AT LV.

I am not sure of that. Hagg is always a little bad. Myers forced things and made some aggressive plays with negative outcomes. This is why coach told him to simplify game. He can play like Hagg if he wanted to chip/loft the puck out of the d zone all the time too. Myers played better end of last season too, Much higher skill level than Hagg imho. WE NEED MORE SKILL ON ICE. AND WE HAVE IT AT LV.
- biggbear77

You may not be sure of that but the coaches were sure of it. Talented players are coming. When they're ready and when they earn it.

You may not be sure of that but the coaches were sure of it. Talented players are coming. When they're ready and when they earn it.
- MJL

preseason is a very limited body of work. and other considerations go into decision. like probability of pass thru waivers or so called need for different requirements. did pitlick outplay farabee in preseason? hell, did jvr? its naive to think that only preseason results generate first game roster. but you are very correct in stating that we have an influx of talent in LV that can help and should be ready this year.

preseason is a very limited body of work. and other considerations go into decision. like probability of pass thru waivers or so called need for different requirements. did pitlick outplay farabee in preseason? hell, did jvr? its naive to think that only preseason results generate first game roster. but you are very correct in stating that we have an influx of talent in LV that can help and should be ready this year.
- biggbear77

Pre season and training camp is an open competition for young players to make the team. Just like Bunnaman and Twarynski did. It's naive to think that anything else matters for players who are not established NHL players. Myers is not on the roster currently because he did not earn a spot in the coaches eyes. Haag did. Any other reasoning is short sighted. GM's often say that the players really make the decisions for them. Myers just simply didn't force their hand. It's also naive to automatically think that a young player is going to come up and improve the team just because he is more talented.

Have to look at why they lost. It started with a turnover leading to possession by McDavid and a pass to a sniper in Draisaitl. The Flyers although with nothing to show for it carried play for long stretches of the game. A tired team does not do that. The Flyers didn't finish on a large number of quality chances. Edmonton buried their chances when they had them. The Flyers didn't. I don't know how when looking at the details of the game, it points back to travel time as the issue. Doesn't add up.
- MJL

Have to look at why they lost. It started with a turnover leading to possession by McDavid and a pass to a sniper in Draisaitl. The Flyers although with nothing to show for it carried play for long stretches of the game. A tired team does not do that. The Flyers didn't finish on a large number of quality chances. Edmonton buried their chances when they had them. The Flyers didn't. I don't know how when looking at the details of the game, it points back to travel time as the issue. Doesn't add up.
- MJL

Have to look at why they lost. It started with a turnover leading to possession by McDavid and a pass to a sniper in Draisaitl. The Flyers although with nothing to show for it carried play for long stretches of the game. A tired team does not do that. The Flyers didn't finish on a large number of quality chances. Edmonton buried their chances when they had them. The Flyers didn't. I don't know how when looking at the details of the game, it points back to travel time as the issue. Doesn't add up.
- MJL

Totally agree with this. For years this team has carried the play in games and just not been able to finish and score. Because we don’t have snipers. Look at Draisaitl first goal... give him that look and shot 10 times and he scores 6-7 times out of 10. Give any flyer that same shot 10 times and they score maybe once or twice out of 10. In this league that equates to winning and losing

Totally agree with this. For years this team has carried the play in games and just not been able to finish and score. Because we don’t have snipers. Look at Draisaitl first goal... give him that look and shot 10 times and he scores 6-7 times out of 10. Give any flyer that same shot 10 times and they score maybe once or twice out of 10. In this league that equates to winning and losing
- SMS4016

I've been saying it since Briere left, which seems like eons ago now. The team needs a legit shooter. This team just does not generate shots that really challenges goalies. The dirty goals are all well and good but when you run into goalies with good rebound control it just makes it so hard to score.

I hope Farabee is eventually the answer because it seems they have little interest in acquiring one otherwise.