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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
Yes, Gostisbehere is struggling in a variety of ways. All I'm saying is that a saw a couple of plays last night, deking past players, cutting pucks in passing lanes where I said that's the Gostisbehere we need. Neither Voracek, Giroux or Gostisbehere looks comfortable in the new PP alignment in my opinion. It does open up some different plays but there is no one timer threat from either wing.
- MJL


I’m trying to be patient with the new set up...

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 17 @ 10:58 AM ET
Thing about Ghost is tha i actually feel his game improved from last year. He looked a lot worse last season. Defensively he doesnt seem as much as a liability and offensively he is making plays. However he is missing the net a lot which is a huge reason for the struggles on the pp
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
No excuses but in the end goaltending lost us this game and won for the Oilers. When you outshoot a team by 30 and have 20 more high danger chances, usually you win. I know the result was bad but the process and effort was there. People forget that goaltending is a huge part of the game and yesterday our goalies were not on it. If the skaters play like that every game, 9 times out of 10 the flyers will win
- bulet13

Watching Elliott makes me cringe. Getting clipped by Braunn, the way he reacted to the puck going in, I think Elliott was trying to draw a call.

Last night with the loose puck goal in the crease, he’s spinning like a top.

Not really a fan anymore.
GrittySauce
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philipdelphia, PA
Joined: 08.19.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
Thing about Ghost is tha i actually feel his game improved from last year. He looked a lot worse last season. Defensively he doesnt seem as much as a liability and offensively he is making plays. However he is missing the net a lot which is a huge reason for the struggles on the pp
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I agree here - his 5v5 defense has been pretty solid so far. It seems when he's in transition though, he's still looking to make a highlight play instead of just making the right play.

On the PP he also seems to be overthinking, like he can't decide between shooting, passing, or skating.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
Thing about Ghost is tha i actually feel his game improved from last year. He looked a lot worse last season. Defensively he doesnt seem as much as a liability and offensively he is making plays. However he is missing the net a lot which is a huge reason for the struggles on the pp
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


One thing I liked about Giroux on the left side was that both he and Ghost were dangerous for one timers, either Ghost from the point or G from the circle. Voracek is much more of a pass-first player (and a left-handed shot) which takes that 1-2 option away. That's one reason I'd like to see them switched back.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
Thing about Ghost is tha i actually feel his game improved from last year. He looked a lot worse last season. Defensively he doesnt seem as much as a liability and offensively he is making plays. However he is missing the net a lot which is a huge reason for the struggles on the pp
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Shoots..misses wide...on repeat.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
the Hagg hate.....guess we needed a new Manning.
- nastyflyergirl

It’s crazy to me. I have little to no issue with Hagg. Barely notice him.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
Thing about Ghost is tha i actually feel his game improved from last year. He looked a lot worse last season. Defensively he doesnt seem as much as a liability and offensively he is making plays. However he is missing the net a lot which is a huge reason for the struggles on the pp
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I’m seeing ghost either miss the net or whiff on a shot.
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
It’s crazy to me. I have little to no issue with Hagg. Barely notice him.
- SuperSchennBros


Hagg is one of those players that, if you hear his name mentioned, it's because he did something wrong. He's just a steady player, who just does his job.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
To be fair, AMac was hardly even serviceable last year. His skating only looked half decent when he was paired with Christian "Trippin" Folin
- GrittySauce


FYI:

In no way was my previous comment made to alleviate the hate AMac received, it was well deserved. AMac is no longer a Flyer and someone has to be the goat now....

Update: If Hagg gets moved then it will probably be Braun and/or Morin.
GrittySauce
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philipdelphia, PA
Joined: 08.19.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
FYI:

In no way was my previous comment made to alleviate the hate AMac received, it was well deserved. AMac is no longer a Flyer and someone has to be the goat now....

- Glak18

Ahh, gotcha - I misunderstood your point, thanks!
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
I’m seeing ghost either miss the net or whiff on a shot.
- SuperSchennBros


whiff on a pass, bad pass, hold the puck and shoot right into the defender 5 feet away or just lose the puck. He had a great preseason though. too many players pressing right now and he's one of them.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
I’m seeing ghost either miss the net or whiff on a shot.
- SuperSchennBros



i think the opposition has really keyed on shutting down his shooting lanes.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:10 AM ET
FYI:

In no way was my previous comment made to alleviate the hate AMac received, it was well deserved. AMac is no longer a Flyer and someone has to be the goat now....

Update: If Hagg gets moved then it will probably be Braun and/or Morin.

- Glak18



haha..hagg is the GOAT. I could see a move earlier this year. Not sure now as i didn't actually think they were going to sign stewie. (not as mad as some others about this though.)

minus major injuries, what is it like thanksgiving or x mas when the traqdes pick up.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 17 @ 11:11 AM ET
Hagg is one of those players that, if you hear his name mentioned, it's because he did something wrong. He's just a steady player, who just does his job.
- CupOnBroadSt.


I know this may be hard to accept, but is it possible that Hagg is just not that good, and that maybe the reason some of us complain is that we would rather see Myers in his spot?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 17 @ 11:11 AM ET
i think the opposition has really keyed on shutting down his shooting lanes.
- nastyflyergirl


It’s like he is the only shooter, so that makes sense.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
Watching Elliott makes me cringe. Getting clipped by Braunn, the way he reacted to the puck going in, I think Elliott was trying to draw a call.

Last night with the loose puck goal in the crease, he’s spinning like a top.

Not really a fan anymore.

- SuperSchennBros


Elliott played pretty well in Calgary. The issue with him is can he stay healthy? If he can I think he's a serviceable backup that can handle 20-25 games competently. The Flyers need Hart to be much better than he was last night.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
Hagg is one of those players that, if you hear his name mentioned, it's because he did something wrong. He's just a steady player, who just does his job.
- CupOnBroadSt.

The defensive defenseman is the most thankless job in all of sports. His goal is no goals.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
i think the opposition has really keyed on shutting down his shooting lanes.
- nastyflyergirl



right, then move the puck or move your skates. to me this is where he needs to adjust his game. Players know if you play him aggressive now he will panic and or be concentrating on avoiding the body.

Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:14 AM ET
The defensive defenseman is the most thankless job in all of sports. His goal is no goals.
- SuperSchennBros



yup...that and a long snapper
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:14 AM ET
I know this may be hard to accept, but is it possible that Hagg is just not that good, and that maybe the reason some of us complain is that we would rather see Myers in his spot?
- bulet13


Some of us would, because Myers is flashier. I want a player back there who does the job of getting the puck the hell out of the defensive zone, which Hagg does.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:15 AM ET
Hey, lay off of Justin Grossmann Schenn Lauridsen Braun.
- jmatchett383

Lauridsen
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:16 AM ET
Some of us would, because Myers is flashier. I want a player back there who does the job of getting the puck the hell out of the defensive zone, which Hagg does.
- CupOnBroadSt.


He does. And as much as I'm fine with Hagg as a #6, the problem is that when he gets it out of the zone, it rarely is on a teammate's stick.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
I know this may be hard to accept, but is it possible that Hagg is just not that good, and that maybe the reason some of us complain is that we would rather see Myers in his spot?
- bulet13

How good is Morin? Hagg and Morin play the same style, except one is really tall.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:18 AM ET
Lauridsen
- SuperSchennBros


Dude had one really good game.





Then there were all of the other ones.
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