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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Hagg is the 6th dman right now. It makes sense that if Morin or Myers finally gets to play, that Hagg will take a seat.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
i mean why would he get migraines after the flyers draft him?
- 2Real



many, many factors could have contributed to the migraines getting worse, but i'm not a neurologist so its hard for me to pinpoint. They will figure it out and i'm guessing we will see him before xmas. From what was said there is progress already.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
I don't get the issues with Hagg this season when there are bigger issues right now.

Prior to last night Coots, Jake, JVR, Hayes and Giroux were basically black holes on offense. You just can't have that.

- opeth_pa


That's not even close to being true for Couturier. His line has been the best one all season, not by coincidence. Just yesterday AV said that whoever plays with Couturier gets scoring chances.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
Hagg is the 6th dman right now. It makes sense that if Morin or Myers finally gets to play, that Hagg will take a seat.
- Feanor



or injury to another
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 3:28 PM ET

- Tomahawk


I never could get those Magic Eye things to work.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 17 @ 3:29 PM ET
Stat heads have been fraudulently claiming that they can isolate one player for years. They cant.
- MJL


You spent five years fraudulently claiming that MacDonald was a solid 2nd pairing defensemen, and dismissing any statstical evidence that showed that he wasn't actually very good.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
That's not even close to being true for Couturier. His line has been the best one all season, not by coincidence. Just yesterday AV said that whoever plays with Couturier gets scoring chances.
- Feanor



same with g (for effirt). though he hasn't scored he will, and the chances have been there. what concerns me is that mutliple players right now do not seem to have their shot dialed in and or have been trying to pick corners or just pass up the shot. I have been fine with how hayes has played, think he holds onto the puck sometimes a little to long but yeah wel. He's here to support the offense but shut others down. Jake has been the one that i thought didn't seem to be skating as hard or was confused with the new system. JVR has had some descent chances but he is known as a streaky scorer. he will come alive. Was hoping G was gonna get one towards the end of the game but didn't. there have been three wrist shots he took this year so far that i feel, if it was feb, they would've been in. I'm sure he trained, but first baby takes a bunch o fyour time.
GrittySauce
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philipdelphia, PA
Joined: 08.19.2019

Oct 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
Nerds are destroying sports
- hereticpride

GrittySauce
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philipdelphia, PA
Joined: 08.19.2019

Oct 17 @ 3:37 PM ET
same with g (for effirt). though he hasn't scored he will, and the chances have been there. what concerns me is that mutliple players right now do not seem to have their shot dialed in and or have been trying to pick corners or just pass up the shot. I have been fine with how hayes has played, think he holds onto the puck sometimes a little to long but yeah wel. He's here to support the offense but shut others down. Jake has been the one that i thought didn't seem to be skating as hard or was confused with the new system. JVR has had some descent chances but he is known as a streaky scorer. he will come alive. Was hoping G was gonna get one towards the end of the game but didn't. there have been three wrist shots he took this year so far that i feel, if it was feb, they would've been in. I'm sure he trained, but first baby takes a bunch o fyour time.
- Peter Richards

Jake's effort impressed me last night, it didn't surprise me that he finally got off the schneid. But it bothers me that he does this every time he gets put in the doghouse or dropped in 5v5 time. If he could put in last night's effort consistently, he'd be a perennial 90 pt player IMO
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 17 @ 3:39 PM ET
We just have to be strategic. We will start the game with no one on the ice, the opponents will be so confused they wont know what to do. They'll probably score in their own net
GrittySauce
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philipdelphia, PA
Joined: 08.19.2019

Oct 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
We just have to be strategic. We will start the game with no one on the ice, the opponents will be so confused they wont know what to do. They'll probably score in their own net
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

2nd Period: everyone goes "rover" a la Jackie Moon
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
In 1999, Mike Modano broke his wrist in Game 2 of the SCF, got a cast, played the rest of the playoffs and figured in the last 6 goals his team scored to win the Cup.

Tavares broke a finger and is out 2-3 weeks minimum.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Oct 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
It happens. There are players that dont succeed on big market teams. How many guys in the past have left a big market like Toronto or Philly and succeeded? We have seen many leave us and succeed elsewhere.

Luongo is an example of one. Was great in Florida, left for Vancouver and he died, went back to Florida and was great again until his age caught up to him. It has nothing to do with being weak mentally. Every fanbase has a whipping boy and as much as players pretend they ignore it, the cant.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


You are incorrect about Luongo. Luongo was brilliant in Vancouver. The only problem is the way he got handled in regards to C. Schneider and the goalie controversy at the end. The fans always loved him and still do. He was never a whipping boy!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
We just have to be strategic. We will start the game with no one on the ice, the opponents will be so confused they wont know what to do. They'll probably score in their own net
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Even better.

No fans will be allowed to the game. There will be no concession workers, no security, nothing. The lights will remain off. When the other team shows up, they'll think they arrived at the wrong place/time.

The Flyers will secretly be hiding in Gritty's bunker below the stadium, and will win via forfeit when the other team fails to show after heading back.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Oct 17 @ 3:53 PM ET
That's not even close to being true for Couturier. His line has been the best one all season, not by coincidence. Just yesterday AV said that whoever plays with Couturier gets scoring chances.
- Feanor


Exactly, the only line that has been good all year is Couturier/Konecny/Lindblom

Once Hayes assume his 2C spot and more likely 3C spot the offense will start to click. Hayes is not a number one center and is best suited for line 3 shutdown and penalty kill. If AV continues to try and make him a scoring threat the drought will continue. Couturier is the #1 center on this team and I think AV realizes this already. Hayes will be tried at 2C.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
In 1999, Mike Modano broke his wrist in Game 2 of the SCF, got a cast, played the rest of the playoffs and figured in the last 6 goals his team scored to win the Cup.

Tavares broke a finger and is out 2-3 weeks minimum.

- jmatchett383

wish we could talk about giroux being a playoff hero
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 17 @ 4:19 PM ET
No, what you're SUPPOSED to do is gain puck possession and transition the puck with control out of the zone. That's the preferable method. If you chip it up the boards, you're creating, at best, a 50/50 battle for your winger and their defenseman is moving towards the puck with momentum. Throwing it out to center isn't the worst idea, but it usually results in transition for the opposition.
- jmatchett383


Thats the mistake that Braun made whe. McJesus picked his pocket. He had postion, all he had to do was chip it i to the corner
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
wish we could talk about giroux being a playoff hero
- 2Real


Agreed, he's never done much in the playoffs.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
Thats the mistake that Braun made whe. McJesus picked his pocket. He had postion, all he had to do was chip it i to the corner
- KINGKENZO


He should have hauled his ass down.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 17 @ 4:25 PM ET
Thats the mistake that Braun made whe. McJesus picked his pocket. He had postion, all he had to do was chip it i to the corner
- KINGKENZO


Braun won the race and still lost the battle
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 17 @ 4:31 PM ET
Thats the mistake that Braun made whe. McJesus picked his pocket. He had postion, all he had to do was chip it i to the corner
- KINGKENZO


That's easy to say after it happened. In the moment, I understood why Braun tried to do what he did.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
Thats the mistake that Braun made whe. McJesus picked his pocket. He had postion, all he had to do was chip it i to the corner
- KINGKENZO


There wasn't a puck play to be made there. McD and Braun got to the puck at the same time basically, and McD's stick is a lot quicker than Braun's.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
Exactly, the only line that has been good all year is Couturier/Konecny/Lindblom

Once Hayes assume his 2C spot and more likely 3C spot the offense will start to click. Hayes is not a number one center and is best suited for line 3 shutdown and penalty kill. If AV continues to try and make him a scoring threat the drought will continue. Couturier is the #1 center on this team and I think AV realizes this already. Hayes will be tried at 2C.

- joegreif17



Not sure where you're getting the idea that Vigneault or anyone thinks that Hayes is the #1 center on this team. Hayes is a scoring threat.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
Agreed, he's never done much in the playoffs.


- jmatchett383

thanks for proving my point
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
In 1999, Mike Modano broke his wrist in Game 2 of the SCF, got a cast, played the rest of the playoffs and figured in the last 6 goals his team scored to win the Cup.

Tavares broke a finger and is out 2-3 weeks minimum.

- jmatchett383


My guess is Tavares' timetable would be much shorter were Toronto in the SCF right now.
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