I get the impression Ullmark is very good on the first save but I have real questions about his rebound control and his ability to get back in time for second and third efforts.

That, a tendency to occasionally overcommit on the first shot, and the fact that we’ve been seeing all this since he first came through (and it doesn’t seem to be going away) lead me to think we need another long term solution.
- Der Kaiser

Amen Brother, I think Ullmark belongs in the league but i cant seem him being a long term starting solution.

"Additional generic hockey comment"
- jochfr

"Snarky rebuttal using advanced stats to prove my point"

I get the impression Ullmark is very good on the first save but I have real questions about his rebound control and his ability to get back in time for second and third efforts.

That, a tendency to occasionally overcommit on the first shot, and the fact that we’ve been seeing all this since he first came through (and it doesn’t seem to be going away) lead me to think we need another long term solution.
- Der Kaiser

6K

This is our first back to back today. Yes he should get a get a start in a back to back but Huton has a great performance and then wham on the bench the next game.
- hubie

He got 2 days off. We're in the middle of 4 games in 6 days. It's not a big deal which end of a back to back he starts.

6K
- Chris16

We will see what he looks like post surgery. Ullmark just seems like he can't move laterally without overcompensating, and I'm not so sure it isn't because of his surgery.

I'll feel a lot better about Ukka once he shows he is the same player.

He got 2 days off. We're in the middle of 4 games in 6 days. It's not a big deal which end of a back to back he starts.
- Lunaion

100% disagree

100% disagree
- hubie

time for a coaching change then i guess

time for a coaching change then i guess
- Lunaion

The key to the Sabres’ start has to be new coach Ralph Krueger that has the group playing extremely staunch defense. They rank fourth in shot attempts and expected goals against leading to stingy actual numbers. The Sabres have become difficult to penetrate on most nights which would’ve been hard to believe when looking at the mostly unimposing roster.

I still don’t think much of the group of players here outside the stars and wouldn’t be surprised if the team’s shot share comes back down to earth going forward, but it’s clear Krueger has been able to get more out of this group than previous regimes could. Whether he can get enough to bring this team back into the playoffs will be one of this season’s most fascinating storylines.

https://theathletic.com/1...s-and-stanley-cup-slumps/

I get the impression Ullmark is very good on the first save but I have real questions about his rebound control and his ability to get back in time for second and third efforts.

That, a tendency to occasionally overcommit on the first shot, and the fact that we’ve been seeing all this since he first came through (and it doesn’t seem to be going away) lead me to think we need another long term solution.
- Der Kaiser

I understand the concern here, but besides the goal that was called off for offsides, I don't think there were any scored off a rebound last night.

time for a coaching change then i guess
- Lunaion

ummm, way to go to extremes there boss

ummm, way to go to extremes there boss
- hubie

Sure, I was. I think you're going to an extreme saying this is a big deal. I'm not questioning the coaches on this. There could easily be reasons for their decision that we'll never hear.

Sure, I was. I think you're going to an extreme saying this is a big deal. I'm not questioning the coaches on this. There could easily be reasons for their decision that we'll never hear.
- Lunaion

Its perfectly ok for you to think its a good call to not got with the hot hand
lets just give everyone participation medals

I get the impression Ullmark is very good on the first save but I have real questions about his rebound control and his ability to get back in time for second and third efforts.

That, a tendency to occasionally overcommit on the first shot, and the fact that we’ve been seeing all this since he first came through (and it doesn’t seem to be going away) lead me to think we need another long term solution.

I don't disagree.
However, in Ullmark's defense, the old adage of the 1st save is the responsibility of the goalie, the 2nd (and 3rd) are those of the Dmen comes into play here.

You point yesterday about needing a mix of defensive minded Dmen rather than all puck movers once again rings true.

That said, I don't see Ullmark as a No 1, but he could develop into a decent backup.

I understand the concern here, but besides the goal that was called off for offsides, I don't think there were any scored off a rebound last night.
- adambuffalo

I didn’t see the whole game, but I did see a softer go right through him at the end of the second period, and I don’t think it lifts his results to be bad some nights for other reasons.

I get the impression Ullmark is very good on the first save but I have real questions about his rebound control and his ability to get back in time for second and third efforts.

That, a tendency to occasionally overcommit on the first shot, and the fact that we’ve been seeing all this since he first came through (and it doesn’t seem to be going away) lead me to think we need another long term solution.

I don't disagree.
However, in Ullmark's defense, the old adage of the 1st save is the responsibility of the goalie, the 2nd (and 3rd) are those of the Dmen comes into play here.

You point yesterday about needing a mix of defensive minded Dmen rather than all puck movers once again rings true.

That said, I don't see Ullmark as a No 1, but he could develop into a decent backup.
- IonSabres

Hey leave me out of it.

I understand the concern here, but besides the goal that was called off for offsides, I don't think there were any scored off a rebound last night.
- adambuffalo

Would you say rebounds lead to more opportunities?
Would you say more opportunities lead to tiring down your team?
Would you say a tired team is more likely to give up a goal?

is the answer no to any of the above?

Its perfectly ok for you to think its a good call to not got with the hot hand
lets just give everyone participation medals
- hubie

now you're going to extremes again

now you're going to extremes again
- Lunaion

its an extreme to want a goalie who is winning to continue to play? Im mind blown

now you're going to extremes again
- Lunaion

out of curiosity what are the goalies records again?

The key to the Sabres’ start has to be new coach Ralph Krueger that has the group playing extremely staunch defense. They rank fourth in shot attempts and expected goals against leading to stingy actual numbers. The Sabres have become difficult to penetrate on most nights which would’ve been hard to believe when looking at the mostly unimposing roster.

I still don’t think much of the group of players here outside the stars and wouldn’t be surprised if the team’s shot share comes back down to earth going forward, but it’s clear Krueger has been able to get more out of this group than previous regimes could. Whether he can get enough to bring this team back into the playoffs will be one of this season’s most fascinating storylines.

https://theathletic.com/1...s-and-stanley-cup-slumps/
- Der Kaiser

Krueger is proving, albeit in a small sample size, that he can get more out of/ make more successful the team and many individual players .
I hope Botts recognizes that with a better roster, the Sabres could be for real under Ralphie-boys leadership. More specifically that he doesn't get fooled into retaining some of these UFA's that they have lost with previously.
Be bold, go get upgrades and let Ralphie loose!!!

its an extreme to want a goalie who is winning to continue to play? Im mind blown
- hubie

Not playing Hutton yesterday was a bit odd. He was coming off a shutout, so typically you don't see a goalie change there. It was inevitable that they were each getting a game between yesterday and today, I just figured it would be the other way around and Hutton would play yesterday and Ullmark would get today.

I think the extreme he's referring to was the second part of your post, fwiw.

Its perfectly ok for you to think its a good call to not got with the hot hand
lets just give everyone participation medals
- hubie

I want mine first!!!
Gimmie, gimmie gimmie

Not playing Hutton yesterday was a bit odd. He was coming off a shutout, so typically you don't see a goalie change there. It was inevitable that they were each getting a game between yesterday and today, I just figured it would be the other way around and Hutton would play yesterday and Ullmark would get today.

I think the extreme he's referring to was the second part of your post, fwiw.
- HonkFortheGoose

Thanks. It's a bit odd, but there could be many things going on to justify it.

Sabres will win if the Kings put Jonathan Slow (oops I mean Quick) in net tonight. He let in 5 goals on 36 shots the other night and is save percentage went up by 43 points. I predict a 4-0 Buffalo win.

Nick Ritchie was fined by the League for roughing up Sobotka last night.