BUt i get it you dont want to ride a goalie whos undefeated because he cant play a few days in a row. I mean I cant wait for the tandem starter in the playoffs if we ever get there.
- hubie

it has nothing to do with me and what I would do


he wasn't playing hutton wed and thursday


and if hutton did play on wed, and gave up 4 goals, people would be screaming why play hutton after the monday game and the long flight on wed, play ullmark and then hutton thursday


we took 2 out of 4 points, hopefully 4 out of 6 and it will be a very good road trip despite the lousy 41 minutes to end the ducks game

but ullmark was rested, hutton played

there is a reason we would see lalime out there for the first west coast game on a short turnaround instead of miller


mika instead of marty, when marty was the number 1



it was of course different with hasek
- homiedclown

Remember when he came into the league and won 16 straight as a rookie..... did he sit a game? Nope did he have to travel? Sure did

IM not saying play Hutton 80 games here but crazy thought wait to sit him after a loss.

it has nothing to do with me and what I would do


he wasn't playing hutton wed and thursday


and if hutton did play on wed, and gave up 4 goals, people would be screaming why play hutton after the monday game and the long flight on wed, play ullmark and then hutton thursday


we took 2 out of 4 points, hopefully 4 out of 6 and it will be a very good road trip despite the lousy 41 minutes to end the ducks game
- homiedclown

All he would have to say is played the hot goalie

it has nothing to do with me and what I would do


he wasn't playing hutton wed and thursday


and if hutton did play on wed, and gave up 4 goals, people would be screaming why play hutton after the monday game and the long flight on wed, play ullmark and then hutton thursday


we took 2 out of 4 points, hopefully 4 out of 6 and it will be a very good road trip despite the lousy 41 minutes to end the ducks game
- homiedclown

If you had told me before the season started that we would have suffered our first regulation loss of the year in game 7, I would have laughed at you. Not sure why some people feel it's necessary to act like the sky is falling after that 1 regulation loss.

Especially when you factor in that they came out in the next game and won (though the goalie may have stolen them that one, but still, it's about time we had that happen).

I'm just trying to enjoy the ride. Will it last? Who knows, but I may as well enjoy it while I can.

Remember when he came into the league and won 16 straight as a rookie..... did he sit a game? Nope did he have to travel? Sure did

IM not saying play Hutton 80 games here but crazy thought wait to sit him after a loss.
- hubie

back in 1996 where the way goalies were used was MUCH different....as we've already said. You do realize that was over 20 years ago, right??

Remember when he came into the league and won 16 straight as a rookie..... did he sit a game? Nope did he have to travel? Sure did

IM not saying play Hutton 80 games here but crazy thought wait to sit him after a loss.
- hubie

It would be an issue in February-March-April when points and a playoff spot are at a premium. In October, you might as well stick to a schedule. If it were up to me, I would have flipped the goaltenders as well, but the usage of goaltenders has been fine. They were outshot by 23 last night. If Ullmark played last night instead of Wednesday, they probably lose 2 in a row.

The 2 things that scare me right now:

Ullmark looks really bad
The get ahead and play on our heels will only work against the crappy teams

Remember when he came into the league and won 16 straight as a rookie..... did he sit a game? Nope did he have to travel? Sure did

IM not saying play Hutton 80 games here but crazy thought wait to sit him after a loss.
- hubie

Last coach did that... I've never played goalie, but if you're coach says you're gonna sit the next game if you lose, I would probably play a little more tense. As long as the split is not 50/50, I don't think it's going to rattle Hutton. He'll still be on, riding the wave of confidence, whether he sits a game in between... I mean, he did pitch a shut out after sitting correct?

Last coach did that... I've never played goalie, but if you're coach says you're gonna sit the next game if you lose, I would probably play a little more tense. As long as the split is not 50/50, I don't think it's going to rattle Hutton. He'll still be on, riding the wave of confidence, whether he sits a game in between... I mean, he did pitch a shut out after sitting correct?
- SDSabre

Where did i say the coach would tell Hutton he sits if he loses?

You all changed my mind lets play the backup more hurray for loses when you have an undefeated goalie.

It would be an issue in February-March-April when points and a playoff spot are at a premium. In October, you might as well stick to a schedule. If it were up to me, I would have flipped the goaltenders as well, but the usage of goaltenders has been fine. They were outshot by 23 last night. If Ullmark played last night instead of Wednesday, they probably lose 2 in a row.
- buffalofan19

Was there a rule change where February points are double points than in October?

Where did i say the coach would tell Hutton he sits if he loses?

You all changed my mind lets play the backup more hurray for loses when you have an undefeated goalie.
- hubie

Roughly what I bolded from your text maybe? You don't think a professional (or even just a grown up person) will be able to decipher "O, I just lost last game, and am sitting the next. What's happening?"

Also, Hutton started the year strong last year, and fizzled, with the rest of the team. Hopefully that doesn't happen again.

As of right now, Hutton has played 5 (Will be 6 after Sat) to Ullmark's 3. I'm fine with a 2-1 rotation, and don't need to burn out someone by riding them. Just my opinion, you are more then welcome to have yours. Neither are inherently wrong, just so you know. But if you don't want a discussion (and possibly some opposition) to ideas, I'm not sure what the point of posting is?

If you had told me before the season started that we would have suffered our first regulation loss of the year in game 7, I would have laughed at you. Not sure why some people feel it's necessary to act like the sky is falling after that 1 regulation loss.

Especially when you factor in that they came out in the next game and won (though the goalie may have stolen them that one, but still, it's about time we had that happen).

I'm just trying to enjoy the ride. Will it last? Who knows, but I may as well enjoy it while I can.
- HonkFortheGoose

I mean.....i'm pretty sure thats a requirement to post on here.

The 2 things that scare me right now:

Ullmark looks really bad

- lulags

got shelled vs cbus and stole them a point, 44 shots against

stopped 41 of 43 shots vs the panthers and both shoot out attempts

let in 4 goals on 30 shots vs the ducks, and many point blank shots against him


3 games .915 save %


for a back up goalie, what more do you want

he has a better save % then price, murray, rinne, and hank

Was there a rule change where February points are double points than in October?
- hubie

No, there's not. There's a saying, though, in marathon running: "for every 1 second you're too fast on the first half, you're 2 seconds slower on the back half". Hutton needs to be fresh in the later part of the season. Overworking any goaltender in October is simply not smart. This is a non-issue.

got shelled vs cbus and stole them a point, 44 shots against

stopped 41 of 43 shots vs the panthers and both shoot out attempts

let in 4 goals on 30 shots vs the ducks, and many point blank shots against him


3 games .915 save %


for a back up goalie, what more do you want

he has a better save % then price, murray, rinne, and hank
- homiedclown

As of right now he's:
23rd in S%
35 in GAA
33rd in points attained for his team (3)
And doesn't look terrible

No one is arguing that Hutton isn't the #1 or should get more games. But I digress. We aren't allowed to have anything good. Ullmark for the #1 duties starting Sat and for the rest of the season. Until he loses.

As of right now he's:
23rd in S%
35 in GAA
33rd in points attained for his team (3)
And doesn't look terrible

.
- SDSabre

did you watch those games

he got shelled in the first 2 games and the quality of shots the ducks got on him, could have given up 6 goals


he played 2 out of 3 games on the road

and he has 3 points in 3 starts


I mean Ryan Miller was the king of a .915 save % and most consider him the second best sabre goalie ever

Ullmark has the same numbers, and is trash based on 3 games, and all 3 games our D easily played their worst 3 games of the season


tap the breaks for a few weeks

got shelled vs cbus and stole them a point, 44 shots against

stopped 41 of 43 shots vs the panthers and both shoot out attempts

let in 4 goals on 30 shots vs the ducks, and many point blank shots against him


3 games .915 save %


for a back up goalie, what more do you want

he has a better save % then price, murray, rinne, and hank
- homiedclown

Sabres really need UPL to be great in the next couple years.

Ullmark has not progressed at all. He’s played fine. But overall he isn’t starting goalie material. Fine for a backup

did you watch those games

he got shelled in the first 2 games and the quality of shots the ducks got on him, could have given up 6 goals


he played 2 out of 3 games on the road

and he has 3 points in 3 starts


I mean Ryan Miller was the king of a .915 save % and most consider him the second best sabre goalie ever

Ullmark has the same numbers, and is trash based on 3 games, and all 3 games our D easily played their worst 3 games of the season


tap the breaks for a few weeks
- homiedclown

I liked Miller a lot, and he would have had a much higher percentage had he not given up a last minute goal 10/12 times a year when they were already up by 4. That happened quite a bit. There's nothing wrong with Ullmark as the backup in a 2-1 split. If your backup gets you the same amount of points in games that he plays, I'd consider that a success. 27 games/27 points from your backup. 1.25 points per start from your starter at 55 games/69 points, you're at a 96 point season. I'd take that.

got shelled vs cbus and stole them a point, 44 shots against

stopped 41 of 43 shots vs the panthers and both shoot out attempts

let in 4 goals on 30 shots vs the ducks, and many point blank shots against him


3 games .915 save %


for a back up goalie, what more do you want

he has a better save % then price, murray, rinne, and hank
- homiedclown

My point was not to expose his average numbers and shaky at times play, but to say he is not that good. It scares me because I was hoping he would look much better this year since Hutton clearly has proven he is not a 50-60 game starter guy. Ullmark is not either. That leaves us with a goalie problem which is not fun.

Was there a rule change where February points are double points than in October?
- hubie

According to some, goals scored in March and April count more than those earlier in the season.

Sabres really need UPL to be great in the next couple years.

Ullmark has not progressed at all. He’s played fine. But overall he isn’t starting goalie material. Fine for a backup
- Sabretooth9

So Ullmark is the new Dahlin. He's been better than fine, was great the first 2 starts and okay vs. the Ducks = better than fine

According to some, goals scored in March and April count more than those earlier in the season.
- IonSabres

Bro, it's from Dec to Dec. That's ALL that matters.

Can't tell if this team won or lost after backreading...

The 2 things that scare me right now:

Ullmark looks really bad
The get ahead and play on our heels will only work against the crappy teams
- lulags

There must be two Ullmark's in the league.

The one playing goal for us is getting shelled w shots.

Can't tell if this team won or lost after backreading...
- jochfr

"Sometimes when you win, you really lose, and sometimes when you lose, you really win, and sometimes when you win or lose, you actually tie, and sometimes when you tie, you actually win or lose. Winning or losing is all one organic mechanism, from which one extracts what one needs."
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