I don't like Benning for the position because I don't believe that he has the ability to carry the team beyond a re-build mode. He's a good drafter and has the right mindset to put together the right amateur scouting department. Beyond that, I don't like the way he manages the cap and I'm not sure he has the ability to bring in the right players to take this team to contender level. It is my opinion that he will make this team a bubble team but not much beyond.

I acknowledge that my last two sentences will be deemed controversial. While people will point to this summer's signings and say that he's improved, I would be cautious. I still think he overpaid. Overpayment doesn't matter until it does. I understand that contracts will come off the cap in the next couple of seasons but that's when the real heavy lifting has to take place.

If the team under Benning has been a cap ceiling team while they "rebuilt," I have little confidence that he can manage a cap as a playoff team let alone as a contender.

This is my opinion and it's been well documented. I'm prepared to be wrong and I write this out so mini-van can put it in his book but I'd like Benning fired.
- RealityChecker

Said the exact same thing... but in two sentences.

Said the exact same thing... but in two sentences.
- bloatedmosquito

i thought i'd add in the why rather than have people try to read your mind.

I don't like Benning for the position because I don't believe that he has the ability to carry the team beyond a re-build mode. He's a good drafter and has the right mindset to put together the right amateur scouting department. Beyond that, I don't like the way he manages the cap and I'm not sure he has the ability to bring in the right players to take this team to contender level. It is my opinion that he will make this team a bubble team but not much beyond.

I acknowledge that my last two sentences will be deemed controversial. While people will point to this summer's signings and say that he's improved, I would be cautious. I still think he overpaid. Overpayment doesn't matter until it does. I understand that contracts will come off the cap in the next couple of seasons but that's when the real heavy lifting has to take place.

If the team under Benning has been a cap ceiling team while they "rebuilt," I have little confidence that he can manage a cap as a playoff team let alone as a contender.

This is my opinion and it's been well documented. I'm prepared to be wrong and I write this out so mini-van can put it in his book but I'd like Benning fired.
- RealityChecker

I don't think they overpaid too much this summer. Miller has a great cap hit, Myers is earning his playing with Edler, Benn is a good depth defenseman, and Ferland came in much cheaper than what everyone thought. Most of those guys are able to be exposed to Seattle as well.

I still think they're going to transition Benning to President full time and bring in a new GM in a year or two.

Ya, he hasn't looked all that great out there. No one has though, aside from Miller on the first unit. Petey isn't taking shots and is trying to force things, Boeser takes way too long to load it up, and Edler is Edler.
- NewYorkNuck

The PPs last night really made me wish Petey had been a bit more selfish for sure

I don't think they overpaid too much this summer. Miller has a great cap hit, Myers is earning his playing with Edler, Benn is a good depth defenseman, and Ferland came in much cheaper than what everyone thought. Most of those guys are able to be exposed to Seattle as well.

I still think they're going to transition Benning to President full time and bring in a new GM in a year or two.
- NewYorkNuck

every move looked at on its own doesn't seem too bad but they've all added up.

even though they might help, i don't like the expansion draft and increasing cap as excuses for mismanagement.

and i'm even less fond of the "other gm make mistakes too," argument on bad contracts.

btw, not saying that you specifically are or have made these arguments.

i thought i'd add in the why rather than have people try to read your mind.
- RealityChecker

You're Jay to my Silent Bob.

You're Jay to my Silent Bob.
- bloatedmosquito

Your name might be Bob, but you’re sure as fck not silent.

You're Jay to my Silent Bob.
- bloatedmosquito

Your name might be Bob, but you’re sure as fck not silent.
- CubanBuffet

Now what's the point of being silent on here? That would make you a lurker.

- RealityChecker

If I was to say this gif reminds me of that Buffalo Bill scene, does anyone know what I'm talking about?

every move looked at on its own doesn't seem too bad but they've all added up.

even though they might help, i don't like the expansion draft and increasing cap as excuses for mismanagement.

and i'm even less fond of the "other gm make mistakes too," argument on bad contracts.

btw, not saying that you specifically are or have made these arguments.
- RealityChecker

Of course they add up, but those positions would have had to be filled by others that also add up. Maybe not as much, but then would the team be as good? If you take out Miller, Myers, Ferland, Benn... who do you put in? Sven, Biega, Mac, Schenn? That doesn't make the team better, and then you've saved money for what?

I don't think any of those players were massively overpaid, and everyone outside of Ferland has so far earned what their paycheck asks of them, so I'm not sure about it.

If I was to say this gif reminds me of that Buffalo Bill scene, does anyone know what I'm talking about?
- bloatedmosquito

that's because the scene is parodying the buffalo bill scene.

both classic scenes of classic movies!!!

edit: clerks 2 might not be classic level but it had its moments

Of course they add up, but those positions would have had to be filled by others that also add up. Maybe not as much, but then would the team be as good? If you take out Miller, Myers, Ferland, Benn... who do you put in? Sven, Biega, Mac, Schenn? That doesn't make the team better, and then you've saved money for what?

I don't think any of those players were massively overpaid, and everyone outside of Ferland has so far earned what their paycheck asks of them, so I'm not sure about it.
- NewYorkNuck

Only one I take exception with, do we think Myers will still be earning his 6 mil 4 years from now?

Sure it looks fine now while he's playing 1st pairing minutes, but a couple years down the road...

I don't like Benning for the position because I don't believe that he has the ability to carry the team beyond a re-build mode. He's a good drafter and has the right mindset to put together the right amateur scouting department. Beyond that, I don't like the way he manages the cap and I'm not sure he has the ability to bring in the right players to take this team to contender level. It is my opinion that he will make this team a bubble team but not much beyond.

I acknowledge that my last two sentences will be deemed controversial. While people will point to this summer's signings and say that he's improved, I would be cautious. I still think he overpaid. Overpayment doesn't matter until it does. I understand that contracts will come off the cap in the next couple of seasons but that's when the real heavy lifting has to take place.

If the team under Benning has been a cap ceiling team while they "rebuilt," I have little confidence that he can manage a cap as a playoff team let alone as a contender.

This is my opinion and it's been well documented. I'm prepared to be wrong and I write this out so mini-van can put it in his book but I'd like Benning fired.
- RealityChecker

I definitely don’t take your opinions as controversial, I can certainly see how and why you have come to the conclusions you have. Everyone see the teams situation in their own perspective.

I liked the Miller signing, and the acquisitions he has brought in this year. Hopefully he navigates through the cap over the next couple of years.

As for getting fired, I can’t see that happening unless the team poops the bed over this season. Same as Green, that is the guy I have issues with, but as long as the team continues to pull out the wins, both will stay employed unfortunately.

Your name might be Bob, but you’re sure as fck not silent.
- CubanBuffet

understatement

every move looked at on its own doesn't seem too bad but they've all added up.

even though they might help, i don't like the expansion draft and increasing cap as excuses for mismanagement.

and i'm even less fond of the "other gm make mistakes too," argument on bad contracts.

btw, not saying that you specifically are or have made these arguments.
- RealityChecker

Of course they add up, but those positions would have had to be filled by others that also add up. Maybe not as much, but then would the team be as good? If you take out Miller, Myers, Ferland, Benn... who do you put in? Sven, Biega, Mac, Schenn? That doesn't make the team better, and then you've saved money for what?

I don't think any of those players were massively overpaid, and everyone outside of Ferland has so far earned what their paycheck asks of them, so I'm not sure about it.
- NewYorkNuck

no, the team wouldn't be as good.

which brings to another point of disagreement with the Benning regime since its beginning: almost all the moves they've done have been to make the team better in the moment i.e. the season they're playing or the upcoming season if it was an off-season move.

that trend has continued into this summer. has the team improved? yes but it's been on the strength of his drafting. as those players get better, the complementary players will also look better but it doesn't mean that it's best for the medium to long term.

my fear is that the team turns into a bubble team for 3-5 years and then has to rebuild again.

- RealityChecker

Vinyl!!

I definitely don’t take your opinions as controversial, I can certainly see how and why you have come to the conclusions you have. Everyone see the teams situation in their own perspective.

I liked the Miller signing, and the acquisitions he has brought in this year. Hopefully he navigates through the cap over the next couple of years.

As for getting fired, I can’t see that happening unless the team poops the bed over this season. Same as Green, that is the guy I have issues with, but as long as the team continues to pull out the wins, both will stay employed unfortunately.
- Makita

agreed

So absolutely zero constructive criticism, got it.

By the way, the guy who constantly goes on & on about percieved 'whining' really sounds like the biggest whiner on theses boards.
- Marwood

lol all your posts are 'constructive critisism' You offer pretty much nothing else! But hey keep plugging champ!

Not true. We just don’t ignore obvious issues with how the team is managed on and off ice.

Last night is a perfect example. It was a win but when down a goal, and on a power play, the coaching staff failed to recognize it was a 5 on 3. Instead, they set up a play for a 5 on 4. They scored a greasy goal but it should have been easier.

Would really like to see the Canuck PP look like a NHL run power play.
- bloatedmosquito

True it has struggled a bit but at the same time producing ugly goals for wins. People may not like it right now but a W is a W. Not sure what 'easier' actually means vs the cup champs but hey all good lol

that's because the scene is parodying the buffalo bill scene.

both classic scenes of classic movies!!!

edit: clerks 2 might not be classic level but it had its moments
- RealityChecker

I did not know that. Seen the gif before but didn't know about the direct parody. Thought it was a creepy coincidence.

I was working around the house yesterday and I was listening to Satiar Shah in the afternoon and they broke down some interesting data on his career. The takeaway for me is that people try to make him a big strong shutdown Dman and that's not who he is. He is an offensive defenceman who just happens to also be 6'8" so people want him to be that shutdown dman.

I have been impressed with him and this is more like what he looked like in his first 3 seasons. I am not sure who said it but it also helps playing with Edler instead of Kulikov. Right now he has fit nice with Edler I like that pairing.

Only one I take exception with, do we think Myers will still be earning his 6 mil 4 years from now?

Sure it looks fine now while he's playing 1st pairing minutes, but a couple years down the road...
- NorthNuck

Eh, he's 29 right now. So, 33 or 34 years old? That's how old Edler is right now. So it's definitely possible he's still playing first or second pairing. His skating is great, so he has that going for him.

I have no problems with Benning, not to big of a fan of Green. I don’t like how he has a team prepared to start a game, and I would also question his in game strategies, but I can’t criticize the final outcome which is why he still gets the benefit of doubt....with me.
- Makita

Green is still learning. If the final outcome is there all good but there will be growing pains along the way.