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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:28 PM ET
Defensmen pinch.

The Muzzin/Barrie pairing has been fine.

Rielly/Ceci have been horrible, they aren’t a good match whatsoever.

- Santo_44

People keep playing Ceci as a defensive defenseman and it's weird.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM ET
God. I have him in the pool.
- aminnes


I got him in one of my leagues, too.

I still think he'll be good and I don't want to panic drop him too early in the season.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM ET
Last night Matthews and Nylander coasted off while the caps went on a 4 on 2, then Barrie pinched. It's a mess from a variety of different places right now. Talent will get them points against the bottom feeders at this point.
- aminnes


We’ll get better defensively as we go IMO which will help the goalers too
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM ET
Last night Matthews and Nylander coasted off while the caps went on a 4 on 2, then Barrie pinched. It's a mess from a variety of different places right now. Talent will get them points against the bottom feeders at this point.
- aminnes


But they've been driving possession and 5v5 play; they're in control of the puck a lot this year, just some bad breaks and poor goaltending.

Plus they've had high turnover this year, Marner/Tavares haven't been dominant yet... I could go on and on.

I'm reserving my judgement right now; there's just so much out-of-place I can't even begin to evaluate them as a whole.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM ET
People keep playing Ceci as a defensive defenseman and it's weird.
- AdamFrench

I thought he was before too

Boy was I wrong.

He’s actually not bad at making plays and passes.

He’s atrocious defending the rush.

Basically the exact opposite of what I thought he was. Sometimes there seems to be a player who knows what he is doing with the puck....then he sucks
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM ET
People keep playing Ceci as a defensive defenseman and it's weird.
- AdamFrench


He doesn’t look that mobile to me
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 17 @ 9:31 PM ET
People keep playing Ceci as a defensive defenseman and it's weird.
- AdamFrench


Because he's been used that way in the past and is a minute-muncher.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:31 PM ET
Show me the rule.

From my understanding Ceci could accept the QO at any moment, regardless of what Toronto wanted to do.

Ottawa gave it to him.

It’s completely relevant, Toronto could of said we will never play you and he still could of signed it.

- Santo_44


Again, they gave him a contract. He signed it. But the didn't front load it. They should have front loaded it so he could be traded. Must it be explained again?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 17 @ 9:32 PM ET
Absolute trash goal by Boston to tie the game.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 17 @ 9:33 PM ET
Again, they gave him a contract. He signed it. But the didn't front load it. They should have front loaded it so he could be traded. Must it be explained again?
- JohnFergusonJr


You are explaining nothing.....

Again, I asked how QO work.

I know for a fact that Ceci could of accepted the QO And the leafs would owe him a cap hit of 4.5 Million for the year.

What I don’t know is how that contract would be constructed. It seems neither do you...stop pretending like you do.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 17 @ 9:34 PM ET
Again, they gave him a contract. He signed it. But the didn't front load it. They should have front loaded it so he could be traded. Must it be explained again?
- JohnFergusonJr


Maybe they don’t plan on trading him, just use him like an ole dirty whore and then send him packing at the end of the year.

Here you go Mr Ceci, now go block some 1 timers on the PK
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM ET
You are explaining nothing.....

Again, I asked how QO work.

I know for a fact that Ceci could of accepted the QO And the leafs would owe him a cap hit of 4.5 Million for the year.

What I don’t know is how that contract would be constructed. It seems neither do you...stop pretending like you do.

- Santo_44


You're out to lunch.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM ET
Maybe they don’t plan on trading him, just use him like an ole dirty whore and then send him packing at the end of the year.

Here you go Mr Ceci, now go block some 1 timers on the PK

- Garnie


So shoot themselves in the foot defensively for a season? That's a bold strategy.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM ET
You're out to lunch.
- JohnFergusonJr


You still haven’t answered my question.

Either find the answer that you are pretending to know, or admit you have no (frank)ing clue.

How the (frank) are contracts constructed in QO? Is it the team who gave it to him?(Ottawa) is it the Leafs? Is it Ceci? Find me proof, I can’t.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM ET
So shoot themselves in the foot defensively for a season? That's a bold strategy.
- JohnFergusonJr



Who knows, not you or I

Lots of year left before I need to worry about this.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 17 @ 9:48 PM ET
Marchand acting like a complete punk?

JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:49 PM ET
You still haven’t answered my question.

Either find the answer that you are pretending to know, or admit you have no (frank)ing clue.

How the (frank) are contracts constructed in QO? Is it the team who gave it to him?(Ottawa) is it the Leafs? Is it Ceci? Find me proof, I can’t.

- Santo_44


WHAT'S THE PRICE OF TEA IN CHINA!?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM ET
WHAT'S THE PRICE OF TEA IN CHINA!?
- JohnFergusonJr


Lol, you have no clue.

*waits for another response that doesn’t answer the question*
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM ET
Lol, you have no clue.

*waits for another response that doesn’t answer the question*

- Santo_44


ANSWER THE QUESTION OR YOU'RE WRONG!
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM ET
Defensmen pinch.

The Muzzin/Barrie pairing has been fine.

Rielly/Ceci have been horrible, they aren’t a good match whatsoever.

- Santo_44


Barrie and Marincin ar the only minus d's on the team. Muzzin is 7 plus points higher than Barrie (worst on the team), through 8 games.

Without Reilly, Ceci would be an utter tire fire. Barrie also sucks in his own end. Badly.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 17 @ 10:01 PM ET
But they've been driving possession and 5v5 play; they're in control of the puck a lot this year, just some bad breaks and poor goaltending.

Plus they've had high turnover this year, Marner/Tavares haven't been dominant yet... I could go on and on.

I'm reserving my judgement right now; there's just so much out-of-place I can't even begin to evaluate them as a whole.

- gravyface


All I'm saying is stupid defensive decisions are a huge problem. All over this team. Driving play, scoring all that is wonderful, but as long as shotty dumb defensive decisions are made, it's all bubkis.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 17 @ 10:11 PM ET
People keep playing Ceci and it's weird.
- AdamFrench


Fixed
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 17 @ 10:11 PM ET
You are explaining nothing.....

Again, I asked how QO work.

I know for a fact that Ceci could of accepted the QO And the leafs would owe him a cap hit of 4.5 Million for the year.

What I don’t know is how that contract would be constructed. It seems neither do you...stop pretending like you do.

- Santo_44


The qualifying offer would have been 4.3. So they gave him more money, they just (frank)ed up and didn't front load it. Now they are stuck with him.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 10:18 PM ET
The qualifying offer would have been 4.3. So they gave him more money, they just (frank)ed up and didn't front load it. Now they are stuck with him.
- aminnes


ANSWER THE QUESTION!

shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:12 PM ET
The qualifying offer would have been 4.3. So they gave him more money, they just (frank)ed up and didn't front load it. Now they are stuck with him.
- aminnes

Where do you guys get the idea that a contract has to be front loaded to be traded? Teams still have to take on his cap hit.
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