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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 18 @ 7:31 PM ET
Was Marchand a 200 foot player at the same stage in his career? Not being snarky either, I honestly don't know so I am asking.

That being said if TK delivers the offensive output of Marchand without the 2 way player part I am okay with that. I know that differs from the desire that every player has to be a 200 foot player but I just dont think that is the only way to build a winner.

- opeth_pa


No he was not, since Marchand was just breaking into the NHL at 22. He started his professional career in the AHL. His offensive game really broke through at age 27 when he eclipsed the 30-goal barrier for the first time. I believe his defensive game was better polished at that same time, but someone who follows Boston more might know exactly.

For me, I don’t think he is the right comparable to TK. Needless to say, I believe TK has a higher ceiling both offensively and defensively than we have seen.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
Was Marchand a 200 foot player at the same stage in his career? Not being snarky either, I honestly don't know so I am asking.

That being said if TK delivers the offensive output of Marchand without the 2 way player part I am okay with that. I know that differs from the desire that every player has to be a 200 foot player but I just dont think that is the only way to build a winner.

- opeth_pa


No, Marchand was mostly seen as a speedy pest. They were all surprised when he started putting up some points when he got into the lineup. His jump to elite 200-ft monster was out of left field -- nobody saw it coming.

And btw, lot of scouts actually raved about TK's two-way game coming out of junior. So book's not closed on him developing that further.

Marchand's puck-hunt is basically second to none, but TK's of a similar vein.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 18 @ 8:01 PM ET
I agree with you. Just being sarcastic against the fans that think tk is the greatest since sliced bread
- SMS4016

Got you. TK looks great but all this homerism to him is crazy
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 18 @ 8:07 PM ET

Re: TK

I saw this earlier, and I’m not sure if this is how the conversation started, but for anyone who missed it—here.

https://www.nhl.com/video...912/c-69718903?q=Konecny+

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 18 @ 8:54 PM ET
Re: TK

I saw this earlier, and I’m not sure if this is how the conversation started, but for anyone who missed it—here.

https://www.nhl.com/video...912/c-69718903?q=Konecny+

- NC Flyers Fan


I had to check that 2017-2019 5V5 goals stat that Whitney threw out there...

TK is 21st in the league in 5V5 goals, ahead of 2real's boy Laine, Marchand, Stamkos, Seguin, Boeser, Panarin and Stone. Within spitting distance of Draisaitl.

I guess he is a "sniper" after all.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
I had to check that 2017-2019 5V5 goals stat that Whitney threw out there...

TK is 21st in the league in 5V5 goals, ahead of 2real's boy Laine, Marchand, Stamkos, Seguin, Boeser, Panarin and Stone. Within spitting distance of Draisaitl.

I guess he is a "sniper" after all.

- Tomahawk


After thinking on all this...I think goal-scorer might be the better term. I’m not sure if people mean pure goal-scorer when they say sniper. Some of the league leaders in goals are all-around playmakers with more assists than goals.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
Was Marchand a 200 foot player at the same stage in his career? Not being snarky either, I honestly don't know so I am asking.

That being said if TK delivers the offensive output of Marchand without the 2 way player part I am okay with that. I know that differs from the desire that every player has to be a 200 foot player but I just dont think that is the only way to build a winner.

- opeth_pa


No it's not the only way but if given a choice I'll take the 200 foot player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 9:13 PM ET
No he was not, since Marchand was just breaking into the NHL at 22. He started his professional career in the AHL. His offensive game really broke through at age 27 when he eclipsed the 30-goal barrier for the first time. I believe his defensive game was better polished at that same time, but someone who follows Boston more might know exactly.

For me, I don’t think he is the right comparable to TK. Needless to say, I believe TK has a higher ceiling both offensively and defensively than we have seen.

- NC Flyers Fan


Marchand had a 28 goal 55 point season at age 23. He was receiving Selke consideration at the same age.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 18 @ 9:15 PM ET
Marchand had a 28 goal 55 point season at age 23. He was receiving Selke consideration at the same age.
- MJL


He got multiple votes?

Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 18 @ 9:21 PM ET
Got you. TK looks great but all this homerism to him is crazy
- 2Real

Yea, and Verlander was supposed to be Assthrows best pitcher ⚾️
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 18 @ 9:29 PM ET
Wanna feel better

Look, really look at the scoresheet for the phantoms tonight.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
Wanna feel better

Look, really look at the scoresheet for the phantoms tonight.

- wcorvette

i really looked
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 18 @ 9:45 PM ET
Was Marchand a 200 foot player at the same stage in his career? Not being snarky either, I honestly don't know so I am asking.

That being said if TK delivers the offensive output of Marchand without the 2 way player part I am okay with that. I know that differs from the desire that every player has to be a 200 foot player but I just dont think that is the only way to build a winner.

- opeth_pa


Marchand started out as an agitating checking forward and worked his way up in the lineup. So, yes, he had two-way game.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
Marchand had a 28 goal 55 point season at age 23. He was receiving Selke consideration at the same age.
- MJL


In order to make a fair comparison by age, we will need to wait until 2021 to see how TK compares both defensively and offensively to Marchand’s 2-way 55 point season.
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Oct 18 @ 10:01 PM ET
I would take tk on this team over most for taking a shot from anywhere....getting it on net....and with some force. He’s a lot of bang for your buck for mostly second line minutes. I enjoy when he has the puck he makes things happen. How often are we yelling at him for missing the net.....not nearly as much as ghost. Giroux will get dialed in. I can’t think of the last time he started a season hot
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 10:31 PM ET
He got multiple votes?
- NC Flyers Fan


Top 25 in voting at 23 years of age. Two votes.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
I had to check that 2017-2019 5V5 goals stat that Whitney threw out there...

TK is 21st in the league in 5V5 goals, ahead of 2real's boy Laine, Marchand, Stamkos, Seguin, Boeser, Panarin and Stone. Within spitting distance of Draisaitl.

I guess he is a "sniper" after all.

- Tomahawk

so when wayne simmonds score pucks off of deflections that makes him a sniper? seriously you guys try too hard
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 10:33 PM ET
In order to make a fair comparison by age, we will need to wait until 2021 to see how TK compares both defensively and offensively to Marchand’s 2-way 55 point season.
- NC Flyers Fan


I'm really expecting Konceny to hit around the 25 goal 50+ point mark this season. You never know but I just don't see Konecny becoming the two way player that Marchand has become. I'll settle a strong offensive player who is responsible and manages the puck.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 18 @ 10:49 PM ET
We gonna lose to dallas tomorrow somehow
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 18 @ 11:20 PM ET
Wanna feel better

Look, really look at the scoresheet for the phantoms tonight.

- wcorvette


Andreoff banging on AV’s door 👍🏻
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 18 @ 11:26 PM ET
We gonna lose to dallas tomorrow somehow
- bulet13


Can’t lose to the worst team in the league coming off a back to back at home can we?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:37 PM ET
Can’t lose to the worst team in the league coming off a back to back at home can we?
- Just5


Yes
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Oct 19 @ 1:15 AM ET
farabee scores again, 3rd consecutive game with goals, frost gets 3 assists, the talent is starting to produce, goood things coming from allentown
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 19 @ 7:09 AM ET
farabee scores again, 3rd consecutive game with goals, frost gets 3 assists, the talent is starting to produce, goood things coming from allentown
- biggbear77


If he keeps this up, he'll be in the squad soon. Glad to see frost producing. I think he'll need a while in the a. Next year maybe he'll be on the squad.

Really, who needs them! We have Stewart! Haha
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 19 @ 7:13 AM ET
Can’t lose to the worst team in the league coming off a back to back at home can we?
- Just5


I've seen that story before.
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