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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 3:42 PM ET
It is a stupid strategy by Babcock. He is basically saying, "we cant trust Hutch at all, so we will just throw him to the wolves." If you can't trust your backup to play some games, then maybe you need to get one that you can? Or, maybe the team needs to play better in front of him?"

The win is Boston is more important. Sit Freddy tonight, let Johnsson rest tonight (blocked shot), bring in some call ups (Gravil?) to take up some minutes so everyone is a little fresher for tomorrow...

- Hockey_Reverend


Exactly.

Especially if it's Columbus and San Jose with their back-up on Friday. If the 1st game is a soft opponent, which a lot of them have been so far, put the back-up in and you will still get the W and increase your odds of getting the W (or at least a point) against the divisional rival too.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 3:43 PM ET
korpisalo
- Lucas.Neilson


So?
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Oct 21 @ 3:44 PM ET
So?
- JohnFergusonJr


I guess you didn't read the blog?
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Oct 21 @ 3:44 PM ET
So?
- JohnFergusonJr


I guess you didn't read the blog?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 3:46 PM ET
I guess you didn't read the blog?
- Lucas.Neilson


You guessed correctly.

They're not trading him.

And he hasn't proven very much yet even if they were going to.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Oct 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
You guessed correctly.

They're not trading him.

And he hasn't proven very much yet even if they were going to.

- JohnFergusonJr



well I guess you have it all figured out.

cause you know...Hutchinson has proven a ton in the NHL that's what got him the job right?
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
Oh he's serious. He didn't notice the 46 shots Boston took on the road.

Tired Leafs team on the road might give up 60 shots on Hutchinson.

Could be a disaster of a game.


Well if they're giving up 60 shots then I'd rather Hutch get them. Save Freddie from the embarrassment.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
Which is stupid because if they want to rest him, they can rest him by playing him fewer games.

If they're going to prevent him from playing hard games all year, may as well accept a wild card position right now or miss the playoffs altogether.

Leafs have to find a way to get a better back-up. Playing a poop back-up against Boston and Montreal is just stupid.

- JohnFergusonJr


or do both

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
It is a stupid strategy by Babcock. He is basically saying, "we cant trust Hutch at all, so we will just throw him to the wolves." If you can't trust your backup to play some games, then maybe you need to get one that you can? Or, maybe the team needs to play better in front of him?"

The win is Boston is more important. Sit Freddy tonight, let Johnsson rest tonight (blocked shot), bring in some call ups (Gravil?) to take up some minutes so everyone is a little fresher for tomorrow...

- Hockey_Reverend


You can also say Babcock trusts hutch enough to put him in against Boston.
But that also is just making stuff up I have no idea about.

its probably more about Anderson and controlling his workload.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 3:53 PM ET


well I guess you have it all figured out.

cause you know...Hutchinson has proven a ton in the NHL that's what got him the job right?

- Lucas.Neilson


Think about it. Columbus' GM is a Finnish wonder scout. You really think he's going to trade a 25 year old Finnish goalie? He obviously has faith in the guy to let Bob walk. And he obviously also knows that if he doesn't pan out, he still needs him as a cheap filler until his other prospects pan out, who currently, have worse numbers than Korpisalo. Remember when the Leafs got Andersen? Anaheim had two guys that were ready for prime time and then and only then did they move Andersen because Gibson was better and cheaper.

Hutchinson has also proven very little which is why he's a bad back-up for the Leafs right now. You really want to spend assets to make the same mistake twice?

Leafs need like a Ryan Miller from 5-6 years ago type. A solid veteran who can play 30 games but knows he can't be a starter anymore but still perform like one on light duty.

Or Casey DeSmith from Pittsburgh who proved he could play well for 30ish games behind a team that doesn't really care about playing defense.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
or do both
- senstroll


Or use Andersen in important games and actually get home ice for the playoffs.

Not every back-to-back is against teams like Boston and Montreal. But when they are, (frank)ing play the guy and get the points in important games.

Then later on in the season, when you see a soft game like Detroit or Ottawa or Minnesota or whomever else is a poop team, you sit Andersen.

By the end of the season, Andersen will still be at 55 games and the Leafs will still have collected important points in important games from earlier in the season.

It's not rocket appliances.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Oct 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
Think about it. Columbus' GM is a Finnish wonder scout. You really think he's going to trade a 25 year old Finnish goalie? He obviously has faith in the guy to let Bob walk. And he obviously also knows that if he doesn't pan out, he still needs him as a cheap filler until his other prospects pan out, who currently, have worse numbers than Korpisalo. Remember when the Leafs got Andersen? Anaheim had two guys that were ready for prime time and then and only then did they move Andersen because Gibson was better and cheaper.

Hutchinson has also proven very little which is why he's a bad back-up for the Leafs right now. You really want to spend assets to make the same mistake twice?

Leafs need like a Ryan Miller from 5-6 years ago type. A solid veteran who can play 30 games but knows he can't be a starter anymore but still perform like one on light duty.

Or Casey DeSmith from Pittsburgh who proved he could play well for 30ish games behind a team that doesn't really care about playing defense.

- JohnFergusonJr


1. hutch and korpisalo have like 10 games played +- than eachother. Korpisalo is younger.

2. Miller is injured half the season and is a shell of his former self, he sucks.

3. casey desmith? the girlfriend beater who is going to cost the leafs more in prospects/picks than they will want to give up

and Columbus didn't let bobrovsky walk - he left, just like panarin.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Oct 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
Or use Andersen in important games and actually get home ice for the playoffs.

Not every back-to-back is against teams like Boston and Montreal. But when they are, (frank)ing play the guy and get the points in important games.

Then later on in the season, when you see a soft game like Detroit or Ottawa or Minnesota or whomever else is a poop team, you sit Andersen.

By the end of the season, Andersen will still be at 55 games and the Leafs will still have collected important points in important games from earlier in the season.

It's not rocket appliances.

- JohnFergusonJr

for the record - I would have sat Andersen tonight if I was babs.

they must be securing tonight's 2 points and hope to battle for some tomorrow
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Oct 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
You're right, the 2 points against Boston are bigger which is why it's so stupid to start Andersen tonight.
- JohnFergusonJr

Is this what we’re talking about incessantly for the rest of the year. Just checking to see if I should stay away.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
Is this what we’re talking about incessantly for the rest of the year. Just checking to see if I should stay away.
- shack67



Yes. Every back-to-back. Enjoy tomorrow, Friday, and Saturday.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
1. hutch and korpisalo have like 10 games played +- than eachother. Korpisalo is younger.

2. Miller is injured half the season and is a shell of his former self, he sucks.

3. casey desmith? the girlfriend beater who is going to cost the leafs more in prospects/picks than they will want to give up

and Columbus didn't let bobrovsky walk - he left, just like panarin.

- Lucas.Neilson


They both haven't proven poop and if Korpisalo has potential, Columbus isn't moving him any time soon without a proven replacement, which they don't have.

Didn't say literally Miller of today. I said a Miller from 5-6 years ago type. There's a difference.

5 years ago, hasn't done anything since, people deserve a 2nd chance. Otherwise Matthews will forever be the drunken teenager with his pants down. People make mistakes. It's okay to give them a 2nd chance.

Columbus didn't give them the money / term they wanted so they walked. That's what walking means; they left for nothing.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Oct 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
Yes. Every back-to-back. Enjoy tomorrow, Friday, and Saturday.
- Steven_Seagull

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
i hope to god hes playing freddy back to back...

hutchinSIV will got torched in boston .....

- CarlitoBrigante


Gun for a good W tonight. Keep it rolling, we need a winning streak here then play some good hockey win or lose against Boston.

Honestly, I see both sides of the argument here and I don’t see either being worth arguing against.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Oct 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
Gun for a good W tonight. Keep it rolling, we need a winning streak here then play some good hockey win or lose against Boston.

Honestly, I see both sides of the argument here and I don’t see either being worth arguing against.

- Santo_44

Goalies usually get hung out to dry in the second game. Do you really want to subject your starter to that?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Oct 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
Gun for a good W tonight. Keep it rolling, we need a winning streak here then play some good hockey win or lose against Boston.

Honestly, I see both sides of the argument here and I don’t see either being worth arguing against.

- Santo_44

Are you arguing against our right to argue?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
Goalies usually get hung out to dry in the second game. Do you really want to subject your starter to that?
- shack67


Why subject anyone to it? Forfeit the game, rest everybody.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
Why subject anyone to it? Forfeit the game, rest everybody.
- JohnFergusonJr

That's not allowed.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Oct 21 @ 4:32 PM ET
Why subject anyone to it? Forfeit the game, rest everybody.
- JohnFergusonJr

Have you ever changed your mind about anything in your life? Or do you believe you’ve been right about all things all the time.?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 21 @ 4:33 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull

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