Risto
McCabe
Girgenson
Sobotka is what he is and really didn't grow in this environment
- Buff36

I've never heard a good thing about any of these guys from their peers. Nobody on other teams goes on about having to stop Girgensons.

Unless by peers you mean teammates. In that case, I've never heard of a player who his teammates didn't say was working hard and doing great.

I am not talking about teammates, I was talking about outside perspective.
- Buff36

People on the outside see different things then we do or we don't want to see

AM i going to have to go back and listen to the entire first hour to find this?
- ImThatGuy

I was on fire, you could tell from Bulldogs silence, he knew Mike was getting burned and he didn’t even try to help him out 😂

In the troll heirarchy I think radio trolls are higher than internet trolls.
- Der Kaiser

Schopp doesn’t know hockey and is arrogant as all hell!!

I was on fire, you could tell from Bulldogs silence, he knew Mike was getting burned and he didn’t even try to help him out 😂
- MEBSabresFAN

Any chance you know the time of it? Would like to listen to it, but not dig through the entire show.

You wouldn't know it from how difficult it is to buy a house. There's not nearly enough stock compared to the amount of demand. I assume the population drop is in the rural areas as it either moves out of state or closer to the urban center. It's also hard to find homes in suburban areas

The east side is the next frontier. There are houses deep in the west side going for $180+
- jcragcrumple

I talked to a bartender in Nietzsche's one night a few weeks ago, around 3am. He was a homeowner, had a home on Hertel.

He said that 10 years ago, his property was valued at 40-50k, given the location, size and condition of his home.

He claims that Cuomo hired a property consultant to reassess the value of properties around New York State, in the big 4 that aren't NYC (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse/Albany). Literally overnight, he said his property went from about 50k to 150k, and it was part of the "revitalization plan" Cuomo had for New York State outside of New York City. He's been dealing with the property taxes, local taxes, city taxes going up and up ever since

The actual city itself, Buffalo, is losing about 10% of it's population every decade since 1990, and in 1980, lost 20% of it's population.

It's why this whole Buffalo Renaissance idea is a blatant lie - Buffalo has to sell herself to affluent millennial's from downstate and the idea that housing is cheap comparatively, and there is a vibrant and hip "arts" scene.

Face the truth: Buffalo has not been a destination for people since the end of World War II and there are a substantial amount of reasons for this. Horrible city planning, awful placement of highways (a fate most US Cities suffer from), a lack of foresight on industry and economy, bad climate, low wages, high taxes, poor public education, crumbling infrastructure, over-bloated bar/restaurant scene and a transient lifestyle from the locals who drink way, way too much.

I have no issues with what Buffalo was circa-2000. I loved my city. But it's attempts to sell itself as a "blue region" while surrounded by some of the most redneck and conservative parts this side of the mason-dixon line, a corrupt and useless mayor who keeps getting re-elected, as well as proclaiming itself to be an "artist stronghold" or somesh!t (no artist needs to tell someone they are an artist).

Buffalo is clinging to the image it built in 1900 and by all means, it was the cultural epicenter of America for a good couple of decades but that Buffalo has long since been dead and what we have is a post-industrial wasteland full of the biggest and most elaborate parks system in any major city in the country, gorgeous geography and the derelict beauty of it's abandoned architectural accomplishments and that's the Buffalo I am from and love, personally.

We don't need to change, we need to improve. Lose the inferiority complex, lose the over-ambition, lose the persecution complex and just be glad we aren't Detroit.

Schopp doesn’t know hockey and is arrogant as all hell!!
- MEBSabresFAN

It always amuses me when someone from a small market says that a radio host is arrogant. Try listening to anyone in a major market and then get back to me.

I've never heard a good thing about any of these guys from their peers. Nobody on other teams goes on about having to stop Girgensons.

Unless by peers you mean teammates. In that case, I've never heard of a player who his teammates didn't say was working hard and doing great.
- matty12345

Really, so Button hasn't said stuff, Rivet hasn't said stuff, Roenick hasn't said stuff.

I heard it. You rustled his jimmies pretty good
- jcragcrumple

Thx brother, it’s been at least a year since I’ve had a chance at him! Such a douche bag! I remember when he tried making a weekend show on Sports Cards Collection, now it’s all about his personal life and judgements of random people.

I talked to a bartender in Nietzsche's one night a few weeks ago, around 3am. He was a homeowner, had a home on Hertel.

He said that 10 years ago, his property was valued at 40-50k, given the location, size and condition of his home.

He claims that Cuomo hired a property consultant to reassess the value of properties around New York State, in the big 4 that aren't NYC (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse/Albany). Literally overnight, he said his property went from about 50k to 150k, and it was part of the "revitalization plan" Cuomo had for New York State outside of New York City. He's been dealing with the property taxes, local taxes, city taxes going up and up ever since

The actual city itself, Buffalo, is losing about 10% of it's population every decade since 1990, and in 1980, lost 20% of it's population.

It's why this whole Buffalo Renaissance idea is a blatant lie - Buffalo has to sell herself to affluent millennial's from downstate and the idea that housing is cheap comparatively, and there is a vibrant and hip "arts" scene.

Face the truth: Buffalo has not been a destination for people since the end of World War II and there are a substantial amount of reasons for this. Horrible city planning, awful placement of highways (a fate most US Cities suffer from), a lack of foresight on industry and economy, bad climate, low wages, high taxes, poor public education, crumbling infrastructure, over-bloated bar/restaurant scene and a transient lifestyle from the locals who drink way, way too much.

I have no issues with what Buffalo was circa-2000. I loved my city. But it's attempts to sell itself as a "blue region" while surrounded by some of the most redneck and conservative parts this side of the mason-dixon line, a corrupt and useless mayor who keeps getting re-elected, as well as proclaiming itself to be an "artist stronghold" or somesh!t (no artist needs to tell someone they are an artist).

Buffalo is clinging to the image it built in 1900 and by all means, it was the cultural epicenter of America for a good couple of decades but that Buffalo has long since been dead and what we have is a post-industrial wasteland full of the biggest and most elaborate parks system in any major city in the country, gorgeous geography and the derelict beauty of it's abandoned architectural accomplishments and that's the Buffalo I am from and love, personally.

We don't need to change, we need to improve. Lose the inferiority complex, lose the over-ambition, lose the persecution complex and just be glad we aren't Detroit.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Flake

Why people waste there own time doing this I'll never understand you're a grown man
- gerbe75pts

Bringing an honest take and showing how foolish this master of all things may be foolish to you, in my car no skin off my back, I find it entertaining to inform.
You can stick with your typical statements of random “Gerbe” facts of sports and life,

Gerbe calling someone a “grown-man” 😂 dude!

Flake
- Der Kaiser

https://youtu.be/1Fa_MLOQyMI

Really, so Button hasn't said stuff, Rivet hasn't said stuff, Roenick hasn't said stuff.
- Buff36

Oh. Those are called analysts, or media members. They aren't peers.

I could build a list of former players turned analysts a hundred names long that don't like Risto or Girgensons.

Any chance you know the time of it? Would like to listen to it, but not dig through the entire show.
- Lunaion

I’m going to go back and get it but it would’ve been at around 3:30-4:00pm 👍

I’m going to go back and get it but it would’ve been at around 3:30-4:00pm 👍
- MEBSabresFAN

3:21:24

3:21:24

21 minutes in the first hour.
- Beethoven

Thx 😎

Oh. Those are called analysts, or media members. They aren't peers.

I could build a list of former players turned analysts a hundred names long that don't like Risto or Girgensons.
- matty12345

Challenge accepted.

I am a Risto defender so I will use him as a prime example of your point. He is far from a perfect player, so let me get that out of the way first. But he came into the league to join a crappy roster and was immediately relied upon to play heavy minutes. Sure the coaching may not have been great but the roster was less than great so he was overmatched and overworked at both ends of the ice. Thus his poor stats.

Everyone is so sensitive now to how players are developed but they are quick to poop on risto himself for why he still needs to work on aspects of his game. We are only a few weeks into this season, but this roster will allow for everyone to improve in areas they need to because there is sufficient depth, they have good leadership, and they are all buying into a system that doesn’t rely on individual talent but instead on the collective performance of the team.
- Chris16

Risto played 19:07 his rookie year as a 19 year old on the 2nd or 3rd pairing for the worst team in the league.

Dahlin played over 20 minutes as an 18 year old on the second pairing for the 4th worst team in the league.

The difference is Dahlin was, is, and will be good. No one worries that he was ruined by last year and now needs 7 years to improve.

I talked to a bartender in Nietzsche's one night a few weeks ago, around 3am. He was a homeowner, had a home on Hertel.

He said that 10 years ago, his property was valued at 40-50k, given the location, size and condition of his home.

He claims that Cuomo hired a property consultant to reassess the value of properties around New York State, in the big 4 that aren't NYC (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse/Albany). Literally overnight, he said his property went from about 50k to 150k, and it was part of the "revitalization plan" Cuomo had for New York State outside of New York City. He's been dealing with the property taxes, local taxes, city taxes going up and up ever since

The actual city itself, Buffalo, is losing about 10% of it's population every decade since 1990, and in 1980, lost 20% of it's population.

It's why this whole Buffalo Renaissance idea is a blatant lie - Buffalo has to sell herself to affluent millennial's from downstate and the idea that housing is cheap comparatively, and there is a vibrant and hip "arts" scene.

Face the truth: Buffalo has not been a destination for people since the end of World War II and there are a substantial amount of reasons for this. Horrible city planning, awful placement of highways (a fate most US Cities suffer from), a lack of foresight on industry and economy, bad climate, low wages, high taxes, poor public education, crumbling infrastructure, over-bloated bar/restaurant scene and a transient lifestyle from the locals who drink way, way too much.

I have no issues with what Buffalo was circa-2000. I loved my city. But it's attempts to sell itself as a "blue region" while surrounded by some of the most redneck and conservative parts this side of the mason-dixon line, a corrupt and useless mayor who keeps getting re-elected, as well as proclaiming itself to be an "artist stronghold" or somesh!t (no artist needs to tell someone they are an artist).

Buffalo is clinging to the image it built in 1900 and by all means, it was the cultural epicenter of America for a good couple of decades but that Buffalo has long since been dead and what we have is a post-industrial wasteland full of the biggest and most elaborate parks system in any major city in the country, gorgeous geography and the derelict beauty of it's abandoned architectural accomplishments and that's the Buffalo I am from and love, personally.

We don't need to change, we need to improve. Lose the inferiority complex, lose the over-ambition, lose the persecution complex and just be glad we aren't Detroit.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I was just in the housing market this past spring and tried to buy a house off hertel. Those houses are getting 160+ for garbage houses that need renovations.

I settled for the suburbs and renovated.

I honestly don’t know what the expectations are for him. Is it realistic to expect him soon at the NHL level? I thought he would probably get two years in Rochester and come up when Hutton’s contract expires.
- Beethoven

Highly doubt NHL games this year .....he needs to recover from his hip surgery and find his game. Not saying he lost it, just a longer recovery and hasn’t been on the ice

Risto played 19:07 his rookie year as a 19 year old on the 2nd or 3rd pairing for the worst team in the league.

Dahlin played over 20 minutes as an 18 year old on the second pairing for the 4th worst team in the league.

The difference is Dahlin was, is, and will be good. No one worries that he was ruined by last year and now needs 7 years to improve.
- matty12345

Such a good point.

[quote=matty12345]Oh. Those are called analysts, or media members. They aren't peers.

I could build a list of former players turned analysts a hundred names long that don't like Risto , How are they not peers, there players that turned analyst, that have played the game, and are respected. I think I will listen to what they have to say more then people who think they now what they are talking about on a message board

I talked to a bartender in Nietzsche's one night a few weeks ago, around 3am. He was a homeowner, had a home on Hertel.

He said that 10 years ago, his property was valued at 40-50k, given the location, size and condition of his home.

He claims that Cuomo hired a property consultant to reassess the value of properties around New York State, in the big 4 that aren't NYC (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse/Albany). Literally overnight, he said his property went from about 50k to 150k, and it was part of the "revitalization plan" Cuomo had for New York State outside of New York City. He's been dealing with the property taxes, local taxes, city taxes going up and up ever since

The actual city itself, Buffalo, is losing about 10% of it's population every decade since 1990, and in 1980, lost 20% of it's population.

It's why this whole Buffalo Renaissance idea is a blatant lie - Buffalo has to sell herself to affluent millennial's from downstate and the idea that housing is cheap comparatively, and there is a vibrant and hip "arts" scene.

Face the truth: Buffalo has not been a destination for people since the end of World War II and there are a substantial amount of reasons for this. Horrible city planning, awful placement of highways (a fate most US Cities suffer from), a lack of foresight on industry and economy, bad climate, low wages, high taxes, poor public education, crumbling infrastructure, over-bloated bar/restaurant scene and a transient lifestyle from the locals who drink way, way too much.

I have no issues with what Buffalo was circa-2000. I loved my city. But it's attempts to sell itself as a "blue region" while surrounded by some of the most redneck and conservative parts this side of the mason-dixon line, a corrupt and useless mayor who keeps getting re-elected, as well as proclaiming itself to be an "artist stronghold" or somesh!t (no artist needs to tell someone they are an artist).

Buffalo is clinging to the image it built in 1900 and by all means, it was the cultural epicenter of America for a good couple of decades but that Buffalo has long since been dead and what we have is a post-industrial wasteland full of the biggest and most elaborate parks system in any major city in the country, gorgeous geography and the derelict beauty of it's abandoned architectural accomplishments and that's the Buffalo I am from and love, personally.

We don't need to change, we need to improve. Lose the inferiority complex, lose the over-ambition, lose the persecution complex and just be glad we aren't Detroit.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Evidently Mr. Beady is an educated man. Now I really hate him.

Somehow, adding that extra lane where the 90 and the 33 meet has made things worse.
- buffalofan19

All research from major cities showed that would happen.

Risto played 19:07 his rookie year as a 19 year old on the 2nd or 3rd pairing for the worst team in the league.

Dahlin played over 20 minutes as an 18 year old on the second pairing for the 4th worst team in the league.

The difference is Dahlin was, is, and will be good. No one worries that he was ruined by last year and now needs 7 years to improve.
- matty12345

Krueger must, cause he's dropped his ice time down, and took some of his defensive responsibilities away. Maybe you should read a little about what Krueger had to say.