I talked to a bartender in Nietzsche's one night a few weeks ago, around 3am. He was a homeowner, had a home on Hertel.

He said that 10 years ago, his property was valued at 40-50k, given the location, size and condition of his home.

He claims that Cuomo hired a property consultant to reassess the value of properties around New York State, in the big 4 that aren't NYC (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse/Albany). Literally overnight, he said his property went from about 50k to 150k, and it was part of the "revitalization plan" Cuomo had for New York State outside of New York City. He's been dealing with the property taxes, local taxes, city taxes going up and up ever since

The actual city itself, Buffalo, is losing about 10% of it's population every decade since 1990, and in 1980, lost 20% of it's population.

It's why this whole Buffalo Renaissance idea is a blatant lie - Buffalo has to sell herself to affluent millennial's from downstate and the idea that housing is cheap comparatively, and there is a vibrant and hip "arts" scene.

Face the truth: Buffalo has not been a destination for people since the end of World War II and there are a substantial amount of reasons for this. Horrible city planning, awful placement of highways (a fate most US Cities suffer from), a lack of foresight on industry and economy, bad climate, low wages, high taxes, poor public education, crumbling infrastructure, over-bloated bar/restaurant scene and a transient lifestyle from the locals who drink way, way too much.

I have no issues with what Buffalo was circa-2000. I loved my city. But it's attempts to sell itself as a "blue region" while surrounded by some of the most redneck and conservative parts this side of the mason-dixon line, a corrupt and useless mayor who keeps getting re-elected, as well as proclaiming itself to be an "artist stronghold" or somesh!t (no artist needs to tell someone they are an artist).

Buffalo is clinging to the image it built in 1900 and by all means, it was the cultural epicenter of America for a good couple of decades but that Buffalo has long since been dead and what we have is a post-industrial wasteland full of the biggest and most elaborate parks system in any major city in the country, gorgeous geography and the derelict beauty of it's abandoned architectural accomplishments and that's the Buffalo I am from and love, personally.

We don't need to change, we need to improve. Lose the inferiority complex, lose the over-ambition, lose the persecution complex and just be glad we aren't Detroit.
- BeadyEyedDouche

That's some kind of conspiracy theory

Here's the population data if you're interested:

https://buffalonews.com/2...he-latest-census-numbers/

Places like Alden, Newfane and Lockport are bleeding people, especially as a percentage. Amherst, Eden are gaining people.The city isn't losing 10-20% of its population every decade. Its lost 4k, or 2% over a decade.

I've been house hunting for close to a year. I've looked on the west side and the southtowns primarily, and anecdotally, it is VERY hard to find a house (finally found one). Sure, people are leaving what we would currently consider more undesirable areas (east side, lockport, cheektowaga, lackawanna, Alden), but it's nowhere near as bleak as you and the bartender from Nietzsche's are saying.

Weekes breaking down Mitts' play last night is pretty good, speaks very highly of him.

https://twitter.com/NHLNe.../1186991159446528001?s=19
- adambuffalo

Fat.

Krueger must, cause he's dropped his ice time down, and took some of his defensive responsibilities away. Maybe you should read a little about what Krueger had to say.
- Buff36

No, he hasn't really. Dahlin is still playing over 19 minutes a night, and he's taken Risto's spot on the PP. Dahlin plays more than every defensemen except Risto and McCabe. And it's only been ten games, and he got benched in the third period of one of them. I'd be shocked if by the end of the year he wasn't playing 22-24 minutes.

If anything, dahlin has lost a minute or two of ice time because we are deeper and better at D and the time is being spread a bit more evenly.

No, he hasn't really. Dahlin is still playing over 19 minutes a night, and he's taken Risto's spot on the PP. Dahlin plays more than every defensemen except Risto and McCabe. And it's only been ten games, and he got benched in the third period of one of them. I'd be shocked if by the end of the year he wasn't playing 22-24 minutes.

If anything, dahlin has lost a minute or two of ice time because we are deeper and better at D and the time is being spread a bit more evenly.
- matty12345

No, again read what the coach said, and if he puts in all together, I hope he is playing that much, because he is good offensively, and that would mean his defensive game has caught up

I was just in the housing market this past spring and tried to buy a house off hertel. Those houses are getting 160+ for garbage houses that need renovations.

I settled for the suburbs and renovated.
- Sabretooth9

Well there you have it, he was not lying.

Evidently Mr. Beady is an educated man. Now I really hate him.
- Beethoven

No, he hasn't really. Dahlin is still playing over 19 minutes a night, and he's taken Risto's spot on the PP. Dahlin plays more than every defensemen except Risto and McCabe. And it's only been ten games, and he got benched in the third period of one of them. I'd be shocked if by the end of the year he wasn't playing 22-24 minutes.

If anything, dahlin has lost a minute or two of ice time because we are deeper and better at D and the time is being spread a bit more evenly.
- matty12345

I am not sure if you guys agree with me with or are poopting on my original post. I was not comparing Risto to Dahlin. But, when Risto played poorly his first few years his coaches were neither smart enough to nor could they afford to reduce his minutes. He just got thrown back out there to the wolves. I want to see him play more in this system before he is launched into the sun. If by January his defensive zone play and overall IQ still hasn’t improved then move him at the deadline, if u must.

That's some kind of conspiracy theory

Here's the population data if you're interested:

https://buffalonews.com/2...he-latest-census-numbers/

Places like Alden, Newfane and Lockport are bleeding people, especially as a percentage. Amherst, Eden are gaining people.The city isn't losing 10-20% of its population every decade. Its lost 4k, or 2% over a decade.

I've been house hunting for close to a year. I've looked on the west side and the southtowns primarily, and anecdotally, it is VERY hard to find a house (finally found one). Sure, people are leaving what we would currently consider more undesirable areas (east side, lockport, cheektowaga, lackawanna, Alden), but it's nowhere near as bleak as you and the bartender from Nietzsche's are saying.
- jcragcrumple

Lockport is NOT and should NOT be considered to be a part of Buffalo. It is a satellite city, or a distant suburb. It's it's own entity.

The actual city of Buffalo is 100% losing a significant amount of it's population as people flood to the surrounding areas and suburbs, whether they remain in the GBA or not doesn't matter, the city itself cannot keep homeowners around and it's quickly becoming slumlord central in every neighborhood.

Lockport is NOT and should NOT be considered to be a part of Buffalo. It is a satellite city, or a distant suburb. It's it's own entity.

The actual city of Buffalo is 100% losing a significant amount of it's population as people flood to the surrounding areas and suburbs, whether they remain in the GBA or not doesn't matter, the city itself cannot keep homeowners around and it's quickly becoming slumlord central in every neighborhood.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I just dont think you're in touch with what's actually going on. That sentence in particular is just totally off base. I dont think you have seen the real estate/rental market in the EV or Allentown or the west side. It's completely the opposite of what you're describing

We tried to find a single family or multi unit home in those areas and we ended up finding a better deal in the town of Aurora

No, again read what the coach said, and if he puts in all together, I hope he is playing that much, because he is good offensively, and that would mean his defensive game has caught up
- Buff36

His defensive game is great.

I am not sure if you guys agree with me with or are poopting on my original post. I was not comparing Risto to Dahlin. But, when Risto played poorly his first few years his coaches were neither smart enough to nor could they afford to reduce his minutes. He just got thrown back out there to the wolves. I want to see him play more in this system before he is launched into the sun. If by January his defensive zone play and overall IQ still hasn’t improved then move him at the deadline, if u must.
- Chris16

To be clear, I think good smart players are always good smart players. They get better, but they don't change after seven years.

I am not sure if you guys agree with me with or are poopting on my original post. I was not comparing Risto to Dahlin. But, when Risto played poorly his first few years his coaches were neither smart enough to nor could they afford to reduce his minutes. He just got thrown back out there to the wolves. I want to see him play more in this system before he is launched into the sun. If by January his defensive zone play and overall IQ still hasn’t improved then move him at the deadline, if u must.
- Chris16

Not at all, I think Risto was thrown to the wolves to, he is not as bad as people make him out to be

To be clear, I think good smart players are always good smart players. They get better, but they don't change after seven years.
- matty12345

Could be true, I just think he takes more crap than he deserves, he was put in a bad situation, and it hurt his growth

His defensive game is great.
- matty12345

No it's not, he is playing with a guy who covers up a lot of his mistakes. Do I think he will get there, yes, he is a very talented player.

I talked to a bartender in Nietzsche's one night a few weeks ago, around 3am. He was a homeowner, had a home on Hertel.

He said that 10 years ago, his property was valued at 40-50k, given the location, size and condition of his home.

He claims that Cuomo hired a property consultant to reassess the value of properties around New York State, in the big 4 that aren't NYC (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse/Albany). Literally overnight, he said his property went from about 50k to 150k, and it was part of the "revitalization plan" Cuomo had for New York State outside of New York City. He's been dealing with the property taxes, local taxes, city taxes going up and up ever since

The actual city itself, Buffalo, is losing about 10% of it's population every decade since 1990, and in 1980, lost 20% of it's population.

It's why this whole Buffalo Renaissance idea is a blatant lie - Buffalo has to sell herself to affluent millennial's from downstate and the idea that housing is cheap comparatively, and there is a vibrant and hip "arts" scene.

Face the truth: Buffalo has not been a destination for people since the end of World War II and there are a substantial amount of reasons for this. Horrible city planning, awful placement of highways (a fate most US Cities suffer from), a lack of foresight on industry and economy, bad climate, low wages, high taxes, poor public education, crumbling infrastructure, over-bloated bar/restaurant scene and a transient lifestyle from the locals who drink way, way too much.

I have no issues with what Buffalo was circa-2000. I loved my city. But it's attempts to sell itself as a "blue region" while surrounded by some of the most redneck and conservative parts this side of the mason-dixon line, a corrupt and useless mayor who keeps getting re-elected, as well as proclaiming itself to be an "artist stronghold" or somesh!t (no artist needs to tell someone they are an artist).

Buffalo is clinging to the image it built in 1900 and by all means, it was the cultural epicenter of America for a good couple of decades but that Buffalo has long since been dead and what we have is a post-industrial wasteland full of the biggest and most elaborate parks system in any major city in the country, gorgeous geography and the derelict beauty of it's abandoned architectural accomplishments and that's the Buffalo I am from and love, personally.

We don't need to change, we need to improve. Lose the inferiority complex, lose the over-ambition, lose the persecution complex and just be glad we aren't Detroit.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Don’t u live in Lockport??

And what do u get out of the constant bashing of the city of Buffalo?
Many, many people enjoy it here

Could be true, I just think he takes more crap than he deserves, he was put in a bad situation, and it hurt his growth
- Buff36

I think he's just a decent 4-6 D. He played like one his first year and everyone assumed there would be this improvement that never came.

Good D men are hard to find, so I don't mind him. He's a bit overpaid and a lot overplayed, but he isn't bad by any means.

No it's not, he is playing with a guy who covers up a lot of his mistakes. Do I think he will get there, yes, he is a very talented player.
- Buff36

Enjoy the ride man. The kid is 19 and amazing. Don't miss the fun because you're trying to defend a guy who's closer to the end of his career than the beginning.

That's some kind of conspiracy theory

Here's the population data if you're interested:

https://buffalonews.com/2...he-latest-census-numbers/

Places like Alden, Newfane and Lockport are bleeding people, especially as a percentage. Amherst, Eden are gaining people.The city isn't losing 10-20% of its population every decade. Its lost 4k, or 2% over a decade.

I've been house hunting for close to a year. I've looked on the west side and the southtowns primarily, and anecdotally, it is VERY hard to find a house (finally found one). Sure, people are leaving what we would currently consider more undesirable areas (east side, lockport, cheektowaga, lackawanna, Alden), but it's nowhere near as bleak as you and the bartender from Nietzsche's are saying.
- jcragcrumple

Curious, what town did you buy in?

I think he's just a decent 4-6 D. He played like one his first year and everyone assumed there would be this improvement that never came.

Good D men are hard to find, so I don't mind him. He's a bit overpaid and a lot overplayed, but he isn't bad by any means.
- matty12345

That's cool, we all have are opinions, I think Krueger and his staff are helping them all out

Lockport is NOT and should NOT be considered to be a part of Buffalo. It is a satellite city, or a distant suburb. It's it's own entity.

The actual city of Buffalo is 100% losing a significant amount of it's population as people flood to the surrounding areas and suburbs, whether they remain in the GBA or not doesn't matter, the city itself cannot keep homeowners around and it's quickly becoming slumlord central in every neighborhood.
- BeadyEyedDouche

1) why doesn’t that matter?
2) developers are turning old buildings into loft style apartments left & right bc ppl do want to live in the city
And even though there’s more & more apartments available, the prices have gone up substantially
That wouldn’t be possible if not for more & more ppl wanting to live in the city itself

I just dont think you're in touch with what's actually going on. That sentence in particular is just totally off base. I dont think you have seen the real estate/rental market in the EV or Allentown or the west side. It's completely the opposite of what you're describing

We tried to find a single family or multi unit home in those areas and we ended up finding a better deal in the town of Aurora
- jcragcrumple

Tell me, how many young people are "buying" these houses for hundreds of thousands of dollars in Buffalo, NY? Where are they coming from? All I see is "Room for Rent" signs scattered on the West Side, every house in Elmwood village is around 500k - it's ludicrous.

A single family or multi-unit home... dude the reason you can't find one in Buffalo is because they're being rented out. Slum-lorded. You will not find a house on the West Side, Elmwood or Allentown for a reasonable price that isn't slum-lorded out, I have a ton of friends on the West Side and they all rent a room or apartment in the same house as the home-owner or each unit is filled by non-owners.

What I mean by the city can't keep homeowners around is that they own the houses, but they don't LIVE in them. They rent them out for ridiculous prices and live in the suburbs.

Don’t u live in Lockport??

And what do u get out of the constant bashing of the city of Buffalo?
Many, many people enjoy it here
- jdfitz77

what we have is a post-industrial wasteland full of the biggest and most elaborate parks system in any major city in the country, gorgeous geography and the derelict beauty of it's abandoned architectural accomplishments and that's the Buffalo I am from and love, personally.


- beadyeyeddouche

Dude, I just can't even with you.

Curious, what town did you buy in?
- Boss34

EA (town of Aurora) - pending a home inspection

1) why doesn’t that matter?
2) developers are turning old buildings into loft style apartments left & right bc ppl do want to live in the city
And even though there’s more & more apartments available, the prices have gone up substantially
That wouldn’t be possible if not for more & more ppl wanting to live in the city itself
- jdfitz77

HOME OWNERS = OWN AND LIVE IN A HOME

You literally are beating on the same drum as me.

I want people to OWN and LIVE IN the houses they OWN in BUFFALO, not renovate old buildings that are gorgeous and rent them out to suburban jack-offs who want a vibrant bar-scene.

Enjoy the ride man. The kid is 19 and amazing. Don't miss the fun because you're trying to defend a guy who's closer to the end of his career than the beginning.
- matty12345

24yrs old is close to the end of his career, ok, that's just starting for some. And never said anything bad about Dahlin, kid is good, and it looks like he's getting the coaching he needs to be great. It's to bad some others didn't