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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
This ship sailed. You were wrong .

All the ror is a average forward, fine player was proven wrong. Dude won the cup. Take the L

- Boss34



So did Jordan Nolan.

And Rob Johnson has a Super Bowl ring.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Oct 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
Its time to bury him 5v5 its not a bad thing, btu there is a reason hes a 7th round pick
- hubie


He was a 7th round pick (and wasn't picked in his first year of eligibility) because:

a. Nobody knew him
b. He was listed 5'7" 145 on the scouting reports when he actually had grown to 5'10" 170
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 25 @ 1:47 PM ET
He was a 7th round pick (and wasn't picked in his first year of eligibility) because:

a. Nobody knew him
b. He was listed 5'7" 145 on the scouting reports when he actually had grown to 5'10" 170

- turbo044


in today's day and age this cant be true
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 1:48 PM ET
Now Olofsson stinks

good god you guys do not deserve nice things


kid was killing penalties in rochester


he will be fine


perhaps a line shuffle and flipping him and vesey for a few games will work but he is a rookie


would those that want to bench olofsson be ok if they benched dahlin as well

serious question


you guys suck today
Bufsaints8
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: TN
Joined: 07.20.2012

Oct 25 @ 1:52 PM ET

I think VO may need a game or two in the PB.

He has been lackluster except for standing in the slot on teh PP.
- ImThatGuy

Yep - you're that guy. Let's bench the rookie scoring leader. And I don't car where his points come from. He carries the puck into the O zone more than Reinhart does.

- turbo044


I am scratching my head as well.

To add....He is not the guy in the slot on the PP Skinner is. He flanks the top of the umbrella (Usually Dahlin) to the right (his offside), opposite of Eichel.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 1:59 PM ET
Now Olofsson stinks

good god you guys do not deserve nice things


kid was killing penalties in rochester


he will be fine


perhaps a line shuffle and flipping him and vesey for a few games will work but he is a rookie


would those that want to bench olofsson be ok if they benched dahlin as well

serious question


you guys suck today

- homiedclown



I'm just wondering, does Eichel have 6 points in 11 games, or does he have 14 points in 11 games?

Does Olofsson have 2 points or 9 points?

I guess people want Eichel to have 20 points in 11 games. Sure, that would be great, but he's doing ok with "only" 14.

Side note - I still dont like Vesey and I probably never will
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 25 @ 1:59 PM ET
Now Olofsson stinks

good god you guys do not deserve nice things


kid was killing penalties in rochester


he will be fine


perhaps a line shuffle and flipping him and vesey for a few games will work but he is a rookie

would those that want to bench olofsson be ok if they benched dahlin as well

serious question


you guys suck today

- homiedclown


one thing i will say in his defense... granted im not intently watching as most but seems PP hes on his off wing where he likes to be but 5v5 he is on the other side.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 2:11 PM ET
Vesey is a slightly less talented version of Clarke MacArthur. Keep him with Mittelstadt and let Olofsson- who actually has top-6 potential- grow into his role
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
People had unrealistic expectations for Olofsson. I kept saying all offseason, don't just gift him a top line role, and don't expect more than 30-35 points. Second or third liner with 1st PP time, and maybe 18-20 goals or so. Those were ambitious but realistic expectations.

So I'm really pleased that he was able to come out of the gate and have a hot start. It's all the crazy talk about comparisons to Panarin (which other than their age being the same are laughable), and talk of 30+30 that is the problem. The kid is a rookie and will play like one. He isn't an elite NHL first line wing after 11 games, but it's not on him you expect that.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 25 @ 2:35 PM ET
I'm just wondering, does Eichel have 6 points in 11 games, or does he have 14 points in 11 games?

Does Olofsson have 2 points or 9 points?

I guess people want Eichel to have 20 points in 11 games. Sure, that would be great, but he's doing ok with "only" 14.

Side note - I still dont like Vesey and I probably never will

- jcragcrumple

huh?

Tbh I just want them to dominate 5 on 5 like they did last year.

We saw what happens when a PP goes stagnant against ANA and the 5 on 5 game isn’t gelling
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 25 @ 2:35 PM ET
one thing i will say in his defense... granted im not intently watching as most but seems PP hes on his off wing where he likes to be but 5v5 he is on the other side.
- hubie


That's standard practice. Pretty tough to take a one timer on your natural side. He just can't seem to find or create space to get his shot off at even strength.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
huh?

Tbh I just want them to dominate 5 on 5 like they did last year.

We saw what happens when a PP goes stagnant against ANA and the 5 on 5 game isn’t gelling

- sbroads24


Eventually, he'll be back with Skinner. It's just better.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
huh?

Tbh I just want them to dominate 5 on 5 like they did last year.

We saw what happens when a PP goes stagnant against ANA and the 5 on 5 game isn’t gelling

- sbroads24


It doesn't matter. He has 14 points in 11 games. Idgaf if he scored them all shorthanded on an empty net
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
Der Kaiser's favorite piss-boy emptied the bucket and cashed in, or at least collected his coins.
https://www.nhl.com/panth...ole-on-rittich/c-69865903
Umm, that's right winger piss-er
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
We really need to figure out how to overcome the matchups while on the road. This year at home Jack has 5g 8a. On the road he has 1g 0a. In his career he has 143 points at home and 130 on the road. Not sure if it's been done, if it would work, or if it is a good idea, but what if they played Jack with Skinner on the road and put Olofsson with Jack at home?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
It doesn't matter. He has 14 points in 11 games. Idgaf if he scored them all shorthanded on an empty net
- jcragcrumple

ok Ovechkin lol
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 25 @ 2:50 PM ET
People had unrealistic expectations for Olofsson. I kept saying all offseason, don't just gift him a top line role, and don't expect more than 30-35 points. Second or third liner with 1st PP time, and maybe 18-20 goals or so. Those were ambitious but realistic expectations.

So I'm really pleased that he was able to come out of the gate and have a hot start. It's all the crazy talk about comparisons to Panarin (which other than their age being the same are laughable), and talk of 30+30 that is the problem. The kid is a rookie and will play like one. He isn't an elite NHL first line wing after 11 games, but it's not on him you expect that.

- matty12345


Yes. So much yes. He has skill. But he's playing in the NHL for the first time (outside of a handful of games last year). Why do people not take into account there's going to be a bit of a learning curve?

I also get the idea that maybe the top line isn't exactly the best place for him at the moment, but I don't think the bottom 6 is either. I think he's in general a top 6 player, we just have to give him time to adjust and grow into it.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
ok Ovechkin lol
- hubie


A goal or point is just that at the end of the day. Just like a win is a win. When you look at it later on, it doesn't matter how you got it at the end of the day.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Yes. So much yes. He has skill. But he's playing in the NHL for the first time (outside of a handful of games last year). Why do people not take into account there's going to be a bit of a learning curve?

I also get the idea that maybe the top line isn't exactly the best place for him at the moment, but I don't think the bottom 6 is either. I think he's in general a top 6 player, we just have to give him time to adjust and grow into it.

- HonkFortheGoose


This isn't directed at you, but we are talking about a rookie who has 9 points in 11 games. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
It doesn't matter. He has 14 points in 11 games. Idgaf if he scored them all shorthanded on an empty net
- jcragcrumple

Sure. Just having points doesn’t win hockey games. Being really good 5 on 5 does.

Hell, being good 5 on 5 gets you to the PP in the first place.

I’m also not bashing Eichel either
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
This isn't directed at you, but we are talking about a rookie who has 9 points in 11 games. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
- jcragcrumple

Only 2 points count.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
This isn't directed at you, but we are talking about a rookie who has 9 points in 11 games. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
- jcragcrumple


I'm with you. I don't get it. I don't think he's hurting that line to be honest. I'd love to see him be a bit more "visible" if you will 5v5 right now, but he's still figuring things out, as a rookie, facing the top defensive pairings of the other team more often than not.

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 25 @ 3:04 PM ET
Sure. Just having points doesn’t win hockey games. Being really good 5 on 5 does.

Hell, being good 5 on 5 gets you to the PP in the first place.

I’m also not bashing Eichel either

- sbroads24


Well, haven't they been generating PP chances in general? They're tied for the league lead with 42 PPs.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 25 @ 3:06 PM ET
Well, haven't they been generating PP chances in general? They're tied for the league lead with 42 PPs.
- HonkFortheGoose

And we’ve been good overall 5 on 5.

But the Eichel line absolutely isn’t generating like they were last season to this point
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
So did Jordan Nolan.

And Rob Johnson has a Super Bowl ring.

- buffalofan19


Ah, the good old rob Johnson defense.

He sucked dude. Give it up.

Neither nolan or your guy rob won individual awards for their play
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