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Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Oct 26 @ 1:57 PM ET
Oh I just remember someone legit posting 10 laughing emjoi’s when it was suggested Eichel was just as good.

But that person back peddled faster than Deion Sanders

- sbroads24


No, no I take your side of the argument. I’m just saying this has stemmed over the course of the last few years and started because of the fact I live in the GTA and watch just as much Matthews as I do Eichel.

Eichel will never be the goal scorer that Matthews is. Matthews will never possess the playmaking ability that Eichel has. Eichel is currently the better all around player and has done more with less over the course of his career.

I take Eichel.



sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 26 @ 1:58 PM ET
Chara hit 50 3 times, but normally 40-45 points
McAvoy wrong
Keith, like Chara had two outstanding years, but closer to 40-45 normally
Barrie hit 35 EV points once...5 years ago, and is now on the second highest scoring team in the league
The low scoring team Klingberg is on is the same one he's been on for 5 seasons and he has 1 EV strength point in 12 games.

- adambuffalo

Ristolainen with a ton of PP time the last few years

Averages 41 points

Klingberg and Barrie with a ton of PP time - Averages 55-60 points.

No difference there?


Also, McAvoy literally averages .5 PPG over his career and he is 21 years old and doesn’t get top PP time - he’s a 40 point player
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Oct 26 @ 1:59 PM ET
hutton 2019-20 save % .920

the scrub who is bad .932 save %

- homiedclown


Both very good, hutton’s took a beating at the rags game, no fault of his own really.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:00 PM ET
I mean I’m pretty sure that was Pegullaville‘s battle but he appreciates the support.
- Swedish_Jesus

matthews .54 gpg in nhl
eichel .36 gpg in nhl

matthews .97 ppg, eichel .92
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
Both very good, hutton’s took a beating at the rags game, no fault of his own really.
- turbo044

but ullmark was a fringe backup after his beating from the ducks
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
No, no I take your side of the argument. I’m just saying this has stemmed over the course of the last few years and started because of the fact I live in the GTA and watch just as much Matthews as I do Eichel.

Eichel will never be the goal scorer that Matthews is. Matthews will never possess the playmaking ability that Eichel has. Eichel is currently the better all around player and has done more with less over the course of his career.

I take Eichel.

- Swedish_Jesus

how many leaf fans would take eichel over matthews?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
No one told me that Pysyk is a winger now

Maybe Bogo will be our power forward once his hips are demushified

- jcragcrumple


You must've missed this yesterday,
quote=Ratsreign]Der Kaiser's favorite piss-boy emptied the bucket and cashed in, or at least collected his coins.
https://www.nhl.com/panth...ole-on-rittich/c-69865903
Umm, that's right winger piss-er
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
Now do Eichel and Matthews please
- sbroads24

Eichel
G/Gm .36 A/Gm .56 Pts/Gm .92

Matthews
G/Gm .54 A/Gm .43 Pts/Gm .97

Matthews has the better numbers, but you have to factor in that he's had a better supporting cast the last 3 years. Still though .92 points per game compared to .97 is not that far off.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
great response after the other night

we have a good goalie coach
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
Eichel
G/Gm .36 A/Gm .56 Pts/Gm .92

Matthews
G/Gm .54 A/Gm .43 Pts/Gm .97

Matthews has the better numbers, but you have to factor in that he's had a better supporting cast the last 3 years. Still though .92 points per game compared to .97 is not that far off.

- adambuffalo

#goalsdon'tmattermuch
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Oct 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
matthews .54 gpg in nhl
eichel .36 gpg in nhl

matthews .97 ppg, eichel .92

- homiedclown


Eichel’s rookie season brings him down. However he has the better statistics if you look at the last 3 years (since Matthews has been in the league)

If Eichel plays 3 years in Toronto with that supporting cast and Matthews plays here what do you think those point totals look like ?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
Eichel’s rookie season brings him down. However he has the better statistics if you look at the last 3 years (since Matthews has been in the league)

If Eichel plays 3 years in Toronto with that supporting cast and Matthews plays here what do you think those point totals look like ?

- Swedish_Jesus


Quite a bit different IMO as Eichel is sensational at zone entries.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Oct 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
how many leaf fans would take eichel over matthews?
- homiedclown


You’d be surprised.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
Eichel’s rookie season brings him down. However he has the better statistics if you look at the last 3 years (since Matthews has been in the league)

If Eichel plays 3 years in Toronto with that supporting cast and Matthews plays here what do you think those point totals look like ?

- Swedish_Jesus

doesn't change the fact that matthews scores goals
even in the playoffs he has .5 gpg


I mean you could say mario was a better center then wayne


the point is, back then I said I thought matthews was a better center then eichel, you guys piled on me

if you poll nhl gm's, pretty sure they would consider matthews the better center then eichel right now


just because I think matthews has an edge as being a better player right now does not mean the 3rd best center from that era is bad

eichel is the best non goalie sabre since lafontaine
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:16 PM ET
You’d be surprised.
- Swedish_Jesus

no I wouldn't

certain fans hate just to hate

I see it every day


I mean bills fans wanted allen benched this preseason in chat rooms
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Oct 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
Quite a bit different IMO as Eichel is sensational at zone entries.
- kingcong39


Matthews gets to drive a Ferrari and Eichel drives a Mazda and he loses slightly in a race.

I wonder how much more PP production Eichel would of had his first two years if he had Reilly, Nylander, Marner and Kadri.

Matthews played for Mike Babcock coached teams. Eichel played for Bylsma and Housley.

The Sabres finally have more then one line that can score and look at our record through 12 games. Small sample size of course but we finally have a decent PP as well and Eichel is 5th in the league in points.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
The team sucks, BLOW IT UP
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:29 PM ET
ROCHESTER, N.Y. — Concertgoers were unfazed at last night’s Gin Blossoms show when the band played an entire set of Goo Goo Dolls songs instead of their own, attendees who “honestly didn’t even catch that” confirmed.

“Oh, man. What a great show,” said concert-goer Randall Ridderhoff. “My wife and I don’t get out very often anymore, but to see these guys play all those songs we fell in love to all those years ago, we couldn’t have asked for a better night out. I mean, ‘Slide,’ ‘Name,’ that Nicolas Cage movie song… they really brought it tonight, and didn’t hold back at all. Can’t wait to tell the kids about it when we get home… not that they’ll understand or care.”

Gin Blossoms guitarist and vocalist Robin Wilson explained the band’s decision.

“It was just an idea we had — to sort of pay homage to friends of ours, and also see if the audience is even paying attention,” Wilson explained. “Everyone seemed to enjoy the show, despite us not playing a single one of our hits, or any of the six album’s worth of songs we wrote, at all. I’m not sure what that says about us, our fans, or light rock music made in the ’90s, but we’re glad everyone came out and had a nice time.”

While the set was mostly comprised of the Goo Goo Dolls’ discography, Gin Blossoms further wowed the crowd by expanding into other similar-sounding hits from that time.

“The thing I love about coming to a Gin Blossoms show is that they start rolling into the setlist, and you look around and people don’t realize how many hits they actually had,” said Laura Linder, a fan of the band since 1991. “Sure, everyone knows the hits like ‘Breakfast at Tiffany’s’ and ‘Closing Time,’ but then they play ‘Roll to Me’ or ‘Counting Blue Cars,’ and it’s just jaw-dropping. They really need to get the respect they deserve.”

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:29 PM ET
Matthews gets to drive a Ferrari and Eichel drives a Mazda and he loses slightly in a race.

I wonder how much more PP production Eichel would of had his first two years if he had Reilly, Nylander, Marner and Kadri.

Matthews played for Mike Babcock coached teams. Eichel played for Bylsma and Housley.

The Sabres finally have more then one line that can score and look at our record through 12 games. Small sample size of course but we finally have a decent PP as well and Eichel is 5th in the league in points.

- Swedish_Jesus


Summary: none of that is a coincidence.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
ROCHESTER, N.Y. — Concertgoers were unfazed at last night’s Gin Blossoms show when the band played an entire set of Goo Goo Dolls songs instead of their own, attendees who “honestly didn’t even catch that” confirmed.

“Oh, man. What a great show,” said concert-goer Randall Ridderhoff. “My wife and I don’t get out very often anymore, but to see these guys play all those songs we fell in love to all those years ago, we couldn’t have asked for a better night out. I mean, ‘Slide,’ ‘Name,’ that Nicolas Cage movie song… they really brought it tonight, and didn’t hold back at all. Can’t wait to tell the kids about it when we get home… not that they’ll understand or care.”

Gin Blossoms guitarist and vocalist Robin Wilson explained the band’s decision.

“It was just an idea we had — to sort of pay homage to friends of ours, and also see if the audience is even paying attention,” Wilson explained. “Everyone seemed to enjoy the show, despite us not playing a single one of our hits, or any of the six album’s worth of songs we wrote, at all. I’m not sure what that says about us, our fans, or light rock music made in the ’90s, but we’re glad everyone came out and had a nice time.”

While the set was mostly comprised of the Goo Goo Dolls’ discography, Gin Blossoms further wowed the crowd by expanding into other similar-sounding hits from that time.

“The thing I love about coming to a Gin Blossoms show is that they start rolling into the setlist, and you look around and people don’t realize how many hits they actually had,” said Laura Linder, a fan of the band since 1991. “Sure, everyone knows the hits like ‘Breakfast at Tiffany’s’ and ‘Closing Time,’ but then they play ‘Roll to Me’ or ‘Counting Blue Cars,’ and it’s just jaw-dropping. They really need to get the respect they deserve.”


- adambuffalo


Is this real?
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
I hit desktop site on accident and can't figure out how to get back to the mobile site.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:48 PM ET
Scandella, Vesey, Pekar and a 2nd for Galchenyuk and Ruhwedel.
Pittsburgh gets an upgrade on D, a quality winger for their bottom 6, a prospect to help fill their bare cupboards and a pick.
Sabres get the best player in the deal and a cap dump to even the salaries who can skip the Buffalo exit on the thruway and head straight to Rochester.

- adambuffalo



This guy isn't even on Mark Pysyk's level.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
Chara and McAvoy
Zaitsev
Klingberg
Barrie
Demers
Keith

All have more EV time, less PK time and most have more PP time. They all have less points than Risto.

- adambuffalo

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
This guy isn't even on Mark Pysyk's level.
- Der Kaiser

His names on the Cup
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
His names on the Cup
- adambuffalo


Yep.

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