“Zaitsev is a good 2nd pairing D-man.”



- Steven_Seagull

Me opening todays threads

Me opening todays threads
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Yep...

Disagree - can't avoid contact, but targeting the goalie and star players should get a significant response.
- winsix

Yeah I'm saying guys should definitely get in his face, but you don't need a specific "Tough Guy" for that role.

I get what yuo're saying about it's the players stepping on teh ice and not Babcock. But dfon;t you think part of why they're not ready to go and keep giving up early goals is because they've tuned him out? I don't think the players listen to him anymore...and really I can'tt blame them. His lineup decisions, starting goaltenders in back-to-backs are questionable and he is constantly getting outcoached with in game line matchups. From what I've seen not really sure what makes hima good coach.

I get what yuo're saying about it's the players stepping on teh ice and not Babcock. But dfon;t you think part of why they're not ready to go and keep giving up early goals is because they've tuned him out? I don't think the players listen to him anymore...and really I can'tt blame them. His lineup decisions, starting goaltenders in back-to-backs are questionable and he is constantly getting outcoached with in game line matchups. From what I've seen not really sure what makes hima good coach.
- jimbri

You have a point but please for the love of god use spellcheck.

Kyle Dubas tenure a Maple Leafs General Manger (significant moments/Decisions made/transactions):

May 11th 2018: Dubas Named General Manager Of Maple Leafs

July 1st 2018: Did not resign Tyler Bozak, James van Riemsdyk and Leo Komarov

July 1st 2018: Signed John Tavares to a seven-year, $77 million contract

Dec 1st 2018: Nylander holds out till contract is agreed: six-year, $41.77 million contract ($6.962 Mill Per Annum)

January 28th 2019: Dubas trades for Jake Muzzin. Trades away 1st round pick & Sean Durzi & Carl Grundström.

February 5th 2019: Signs Auston Matthews to a five-year, $58.17 million contract. Average annual value of $11.634 million

March 5th 2019: Signs Sparks to a new one-year, $750,000

April 23rd 2019: Leafs knocked out by Bruins in 7 games.

May 6th 2019: Mikheyev signed a one-year, $925K Deal

June 28th 2019: Kapanen signed a new three-year, $9.6 million contract

June 28th 2019: Johnsson signed a new four-year, $13.6 million contract

June 29th 2019: Hutchinson signed to a one-year, one-way contact@ $700,000

July 1st 2019: Leafs trade Conner Brown, Nikita Zaitsev & Michael Carcone to Ottawa Senators for Aaron Luchuk, Ben Harpur, Cody Ceci and round 3 pick in the 2020 draft

July 1st 2019: Leafs trade Nazem Kadri, Calle Rosen and round 3 pick in the 2020 draft traded to Colorado, in exchange for Tyson Barrie, Alex Kerfoot, and round 6 pick in the 2020 draft

July 1st 2019: Leafs sign Jason Spezza to 1 yr/ $700K

July 4th 2019: Alex Kerfoot signs a four-year, $14 million contract ($3.5 Mill Cap hit)

July 4th 2019: Signs Cody Ceci to a one-year, $4.5 million Contract.

July 23rd 2019: Sparks traded to the Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for David Clarkson & a fourth-round pick in the 2020 NHL Entry Draft.

July 24th 2019: Signs Nick Shore to 1 year/$750K Contract.

July 24th 2019: Signs Kevin Gravel to 1 year/$700K Contract.

September 13th 2019: Signs Mitch Marner signed a six-year, $65.358 million contract (average Cap hit of $10.89 Mill Per Annum)

October 2nd 2019: Names John Tavares the 25th Captain, in Toronto Maple Leafs history.
- Sandro

I'm not happy with the current situation but that list looks pretty good. In hindsight we can argue that he allowed the kids to bet on themselves and that might have cost some $$. And the Ceci signing is cringy. Otherwise ....I'm good.

Also, he and Hunter were running the ship in 2015 after Nonuts got canned. I think I read that KD was heavily in on the Moore and Hyman signings/trade. Both nice pieces of work.

For the love of GOD can we just get rid of Babcock already. Most overrated coach in the history of the NHL. The sooner this egotistic, stubborn, arrogant clown is gone the better.

I get what yuo're saying about it's the players stepping on teh ice and not Babcock. But dfon;t you think part of why they're not ready to go and keep giving up early goals is because they've tuned him out? I don't think the players listen to him anymore...and really I can'tt blame them. His lineup decisions, starting goaltenders in back-to-backs are questionable and he is constantly getting outcoached with in game line matchups. From what I've seen not really sure what makes hima good coach.
- jimbri

Agree 100% buddy!

For the love of GOD can we just get rid of Babcock already. Most overrated coach in the history of the NHL. The sooner this egotistic, stubborn, arrogant clown is gone the better.
- ToMaLe

Shut up Roger

Shut up Roger
- MaximusAurelius

Try shutting me up Betty.

Shut up Roger
- MaximusAurelius

I think its fair to say that Babs might not be the right coach for this team.
that doesnt mean he is a bad coach.

But I think Babs gets his chance to play this season out

I think its fair to say that Babs might not be the right coach for this team.
that doesnt mean he is a bad coach.

But I think Babs gets his chance to play this season out
- senstroll

Which coach would you put in front of the team?

Ha. Nope. I mean KD (without the wiener).
- DrunkenCanuck

KD plays basketball for the Nets....wrong sport...

I just hope the Leafs keep sending Hutchinson vs the Habs.

Seems like a great way to give up points to a division rival.

Having said that, I don't think saturday's loss is on him, at all.
- Scabeh

Its not.
That was on team, the no heart, no consistency team

Which coach would you put in front of the team?
- MaximusAurelius

I would have to interview them to know

Who cares what that idiot says.

He goes out of his way to find any statistic that is negative towards the Leafs.

Has to try and stay relevant somehow I guess..
- LeafGuy89

It's still a troubling stat regardless who posts it. They have been garbage going back to January - and by garbage I mean mediocre - which this team should not be with its roster and pay structure.

EDIT: Back to last November if we really want to get technical...if they are going to be fast with no grit and so-so defense they need to demonstrate their strengths for 60 minutes every single night they play.

I think its fair to say that Babs might not be the right coach for this team.
that doesnt mean he is a bad coach.

But I think Babs gets his chance to play this season out
- senstroll

He's an overrated coach that can only do things one way. It works great when you have some extremely talented defensemen and gritty forwards, but when your defense is pedestrian it's mediocrity ad infinitum.

There's a reason that Babcock's protoges (Todd McLellan, Bill Peters, Paul MacLean) have all had a pretty similar track record of teams that briefly overachieved, then became just good enough to be competitive but not good enough to actually win anything.

McLellan's Sharks days are a slight exception, but that team should have won more than it did too.

I would have to interview them to know
- senstroll

so you judge Babcock just because, but then have no answer on who to replace him..?
surely it won't be an OHL coach - so you must have some idea on who would be candidates, right?
don't even consider available candidates - just curious on who you think would do a better job..

He's an overrated coach that can only do things one way. It works great when you have some extremely talented defensemen and gritty forwards, but when your defense is pedestrian it's mediocrity ad infinitum.

There's a reason that Babcock's protoges (Todd McLellan, Bill Peters, Paul MacLean) have all had a pretty similar track record of teams that briefly overachieved, then became just good enough to be competitive but not good enough to actually win anything.

McLellan's Sharks days are a slight exception, but that team should have won more than it did too.
- BINGO!

Saskatcheshade

Which coach would you put in front of the team?
- MaximusAurelius

Lindy Ruff.

Saskatcheshade
- AdamFrench

It's funny how many of the old time sports guys here (frank)ing hate him. He was such a wiener when he was coach of the Moose Jaw Warriors.

so you judge Babcock just because, but then have no answer on who to replace him..?
surely it won't be an OHL coach - so you must have some idea on who would be candidates, right?
don't even consider available candidates - just curious on who you think would do a better job..
- MaximusAurelius

iv seen the team coached by babcock for 4 years. I have not seen a new coach yet. so all I would have to go off is an interview (just like a GM)

I'm not happy with the current situation but that list looks pretty good. In hindsight we can argue that he allowed the kids to bet on themselves and that might have cost some $$. And the Ceci signing is cringy. Otherwise ....I'm good.

Also, he and Hunter were running the ship in 2015 after Nonuts got canned. I think I read that KD was heavily in on the Moore and Hyman signings/trade. Both nice pieces of work.
- The Law

Aside from it being a popular opinion to have for Leafs fans, what exactly has Ceci done as a Leaf to be so "cringy"? I haven't seen it. He's been "fine". Nothing spectacular at either end - just kind of steady and boring, which is welcome on this team.

You don't need a "tough guy" you just need everybody to give a poop about each other.
- BINGO!

Need someone to say something or even fake anger

He's not terrible every game.

-PatC80
- Scabeh

it's true