you say you've seen enough of Babcock after 4 years to say he should be canned.
you don't watch any other hockey so you could have an idea who you'd like as a next head coach?
seems strange you can judge babcock as an outsider, but for the new coaches, you need all kind of inside information.
- MaximusAurelius

Bob Hartley.

He's the solution!

It would also be entertaining as (frank)!

you say you've seen enough of Babcock after 4 years to say he should be canned.
you don't watch any other hockey so you could have an idea who you'd like as a next head coach?
seems strange you can judge babcock as an outsider, but for the new coaches, you need all kind of inside information.
- MaximusAurelius

You mean other than the on-ice results?

You are right that we don't need a fighter.. We just need players that will stick up for their teammates..
- PatC80

The Leafs were pushed around all night by the Habs. What more proof does anyone in there right mind need.

I'm not happy with the current situation but that list looks pretty good. In hindsight we can argue that he allowed the kids to bet on themselves and that might have cost some $$. And the Ceci signing is cringy. Otherwise ....I'm good.

Also, he and Hunter were running the ship in 2015 after Nonuts got canned. I think I read that KD was heavily in on the Moore and Hyman signings/trade. Both nice pieces of work.
- The Law

I agree...not a bad list, but for me, my biggest issues are...
#1 - the Matthews signing should of been an 8 year deal given the amount of money he forked over to him. Nylander deal was $2 million (per year) too much. And Marner was over paid by $2 mill (per year).
**He needs to be a tougher negotiator. Now we dont have cap room to address other issues**
#2 - he still hasn't addressed this teams Defense the way he should of.
#3 - has not addressed the lack of toughness and grit.

you say you've seen enough of Babcock after 4 years to say he should be canned.
you don't watch any other hockey so you could have an idea who you'd like as a next head coach?
seems strange you can judge babcock as an outsider, but for the new coaches, you need all kind of inside information.
- MaximusAurelius

I said I have seen him coach for 4 years, and maybe he is not the right fit.

I cant help it if you interpret that as Iv seen enough and he should be canned

Josh Anderson?

Even if you don't think so, I really like Josh Anderson.. I mean, it's not like the feelings I have for William Nylander but, you know, close.
- PatC80

what does it take to get that player?
does CBJ move him?

You mean other than the on-ice results?
- PatC80

it's always a little tough judging coaches.

babcock had this team in the playoffs 1-2 years before they should have.

he deserves at least one more full season imo.

what does it take to get that player?
does CBJ move him?
- senstroll

That's the question, but he's a guy I would like to have;

Maybe something like Nylander, Ceci, Liljegren for Josh Anderson, Boone Jenner and David Savard?

Just spit-balling ideas.

what does it take to get that player?
does CBJ move him?
- senstroll

$6M in cap space for next year?

it's always a little tough judging coaches.

babcock had this team in the playoffs 1-2 years before they should have.

he deserves at least one more full season imo.
- Tumbleweed

I don't think he should be fired this week or month.. Just saying if the Leafs lose in the 1st rd again, or miss the playoffs entirely, then he should be the one to go..

Depends on the definition of tough guy. Every team needs a player or two that hit like a truck, scary to play against and stick up for there team mates. A player were the other team has to always be aware of when he is on the ice.
This one little thing gets the other team running around and throws them off there game plan. Is it just me or does every game look like a repeat over and over- 1. Opposition sticks to there game plan knowing the leafs have no push back- 2. Target, slam,slash, cross check the leafs stars cuz they know nothing will happen in return. 3.Leafs look lost and don't know what to do when this exact thing gets done to them.
To be honest, it doesn't have to be a knuckle chucker, that would be an added bonus for me thou as an entertainment factor.

- Buck Norris

Having a tough guy, someone that other teams have to consider, before running our top players, is very important in this day and age. This Leaf team is too weak, and no other teams are scared of them...which is why they go after the star players. You watch tomorrow's game, and count how many times, AM43, MM get hit hard.

Again, you just want the opposing team to think twice before they run our guys.

I don't think he should be fired this week or month.. Just saying if the Leafs lose in the 1st rd again, or miss the playoffs entirely, then he should be the one to go..
- PatC80

agreed

Having a tough guy, someone that other teams have to consider, before running our top players, is very important in this day and age. This Leaf team is too weak, and no other teams are scared of them...which is why they go after the star players. You watch tomorrow's game, and count how many times, AM43, MM get hit hard.

Again, you just want the opposing team to think twice before they run our guys.
- Sandro

It's like you learned nothing from the Matt Martin experience.

Frikin Petry braced himself, looked like he was assuming some one was going to come at him.. Instead Matthews just skates by and probably apologized to Petry for almost hitting him
- PatC80

Not Mathews job but he should of at least pushed him. Hyman would of, he has stuck up for team mates quite a few times. The is another reason I think he is missed.

It's like you learned nothing from the Matt Martin experience.
- Scabeh

I did. I learned something from the Matt Martin experience... I learned that Lou overpaid him and Dubas was forced to move him for McAdam.. Which I assume is some sort of McDonald's breakfast sandwich?

He's always been good, except for when he was on the Oilers, because everyone on that team sucked at that time..

But looking at the replay, it seems like Petry was expecting someone to come at him..
- PatC80

silly boy. its the leafs.....thats not gonna happen.

silly boy. its the leafs.....thats not gonna happen.


- Fakepartofme

give me an example player
- senstroll

Bruins drafted John Beecher at #30ovr this last draft.
He's a type of player that is exactly what this Leafs team needs. (obviously he'll take at least 2 more years to be ready for NHL, but more speaking types of players).

btw - Leafs could have drafted Beecher if Dubas hadn't given up so easily that 1st rounder.

I did. I learned something from the Matt Martin experience... I learned that Lou overpaid him and Dubas was forced to move him for McAdam.. Which I assume is some sort of McDonald's breakfast sandwich?


- PatC80

I was more talking about how he didn't prevent hits on good players was a waste of space on the ice but you know.... sure.

Bruins drafted John Beecher at #30ovr this last draft.
He's a type of player that is exactly what this Leafs team needs. (obviously he'll take at least 2 more years to be ready for NHL, but more speaking types of players).

btw - Leafs could have drafted Beecher if Dubas hadn't given up so easily that 1st rounder.
- MaximusAurelius

Michael McCarron is available I'm sure!!

Bruins drafted John Beecher at #30ovr this last draft.
He's a type of player that is exactly what this Leafs team needs. (obviously he'll take at least 2 more years to be ready for NHL, but more speaking types of players).

btw - Leafs could have drafted Beecher if Dubas hadn't given up so easily that 1st rounder.
- MaximusAurelius

How do we know what beecher will be in the nhl or even if he makes it?

How do we know what beecher will be in the nhl or even if he makes it?
- Fakepartofme

It's Max... Max knows all

I Agree. They better use their first rounder this year to draft a bigger player with some snarl and skill.

I Agree. They better use their first rounder this year to draft a bigger player with some snarl and skill.
- DrunkenCanuck

lol

lol
- BINGO!

I'm not certain he's kidding around.