Lots of players it’s not ending well for recently - Saarella, Perlini, Seabrook...how happy is Crawford right now...if they fall out of the playoff race this year, how happy is Kane going to be next summer....
- StLBravesFan

i have been saying since lehner arrives this is not all the win/win everybody thought...

neither of these guys want to sit or play 50/50....

On the Contrary, JC was happy how his team performed vs Kings....
- TrueGrit

No no no this is a message by the coach

Seabs was good with Maatta, I don't agree with benching him again. One bad game doesn't deserve this. He wasn't the only poopty player to lace up skates that day.

i have been saying since lehner arrives this is not all the win/win everybody thought...

neither of these guys want to sit or play 50/50....
- bogiedoc

Maybe this is a way to get guys to "loosen" their NMC.

I was just thinking the same thing about Toews? Do you think JC has the teams attention now.
- BetweenTheDots

yeah i think

On the Contrary, JC was happy how his team performed vs Kings....
- TrueGrit

He has a preference for making no lineup changes after a win, that's for sure

Seabs was good with Maatta, I don't agree with benching him again. One bad game doesn't deserve this. He wasn't the only poopty player to lace up skates that day.
- I Am The Breadman

Apparently JC disagrees with you. 7 played his worst game of the year when you really needed him after Murphy went on the IR, and he played half ass. They won't fire Seabs

Pair this with Seabs' claim he wasn't spoken to at all before this 2nd scratching, sounds like some dysfunction junction starting to happen between room and coaches.


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST

Colliton asked if it was difficult to bench Seabrook again:

"As a coaching staff together, [it's about] communication and being clear.

"Ultimately, it's about team success."

Seabs was good with Maatta, I don't agree with benching him again. One bad game doesn't deserve this. He wasn't the only poopty player to lace up skates that day.
- I Am The Breadman

Yup. Fancy stats for the season after that game had Seabrook AND Toews next to each other on the bad side.

Maybe this is a way to get guys to "loosen" their NMC.
- powerenforcer

Even if he would, who would take lets say Seabrook at even 80% retained? That fool in Edmonton is gone.

It’s simple, don’t suck and you get to play.

Seabs was good with Maatta, I don't agree with benching him again. One bad game doesn't deserve this. He wasn't the only poopty player to lace up skates that day.
- I Am The Breadman

No, he wasn't and yes he did play decent with Maatta, but Seabrook's speed has cost them in just about every game. At some point you need to put the guys out there who give you the best chance to succeed. Team performed very well against the Kings the other day and they need to find out if that was because they played a bad team or because they played a poopty team.

I actually really like this outta JC. This shows that he's taking control of the locker room and doing what he can to give us the best chance to win and that's what the team should be doing.

I love the Core guys and they deserve all the praise in the world for what they did for this Franchise, but they need to start playing better. All of them. This can't be the nostalgia tour for them where they just go out there and play 3/4 of what they can because "they earned it" and collect their paychecks. If this Franchise wants us fans to believe that they're trying to win and continue to win they need to do right by putting the best roster possible out there.

Maybe this is a way to get guys to "loosen" their NMC.
- powerenforcer

While I don't think that is the intent, that could very well be the potential impact on at least one veteran. From there, it could cause a chain reaction as the veterans in that core are tight, i.e. loyal to each other and not to a new coaching staff.

Even if he would, who would take lets say Seabrook at even 80% retained? That fool in Edmonton is gone.
- vshun

There's a fool in Calgary that traded James Neal, who's lighting the world on fire FYI, for Lucic who's barely a 4th line player. A deal can be found. Winnipeg lost a TON of Defensemen this year. That might be an option. What they could work out I'm not sure about, but the point is that depending on the draft capital, prospects, salary retaining, etc. a deal can be found

While I don't think that is the intent, that could very well be the potential impact on at least one veteran. From there, it could cause a chain reaction as the veterans in that core are tight, i.e. loyal to each other and not to a new coaching staff.
- AEL_Fox

I wouldn't be shocked if Crawford, Seabrook, and Keith are all not Hawks next year. I don't see how they can trade Toews at this point and as poorly as he's played I would still keep him around on this team. With the right combo of guys around him I think that he can still be a very effective player for the Hawks.

The Defense needs to be re-done and clearing out Seabrook and Keith will give Boqvist, Mitchell, and Beaudin all the chance to begin the next wave of Hawks Defense.

Pair this with Seabs' claim he wasn't spoken to at all before this 2nd scratching, sounds like some dysfunction junction starting to happen between room and coaches.


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST

Colliton asked if it was difficult to bench Seabrook again:

"As a coaching staff together,
- pdx2ord[it's about] communication and being clear.

"Ultimately, it's about team success."

If benching Seabrook creates this huge dramatic wave, some claim, then the team is truly a collection of entitled pussies.

This is all pretty simple, I will give everyone 10 bucks for every foot race to a puck in the dzone 7 has won in the past 3 games. You give me 1 dollar for each he loses. Rewatch the game and let me know how much money you will be sending me.

It is not a matter of being good or bad, he simply can not keep up..

i have been saying since lehner arrives this is not all the win/win everybody thought...

neither of these guys want to sit or play 50/50....
- bogiedoc

Forsburg is better than Crawford right now. He can be claimed anytime.

I wouldn't be shocked if Crawford, Seabrook, and Keith are all not Hawks next year. I don't see how they can trade Toews at this point and as poorly as he's played I would still keep him around on this team. With the right combo of guys around him I think that he can still be a very effective player for the Hawks.

The Defense needs to be re-done and clearing out Seabrook and Keith will give Boqvist, Mitchell, and Beaudin all the chance to begin the next wave of Hawks Defense.
- Savetheembers33

Or Toews can be bought out.

If benching Seabrook creates this huge dramatic wave, some claim, then the team is truly a collection of entitled pussies.

This is all pretty simple, I will give everyone 10 bucks for every foot race to a puck in the dzone 7 has won in the past 3 games. You give me 1 dollar for each he loses. Rewatch the game and let me know how much money you will be sending me.

It is not a matter of being good or bad, he simply can not keep up..
- TrueGrit

This. He's got great hockey IQ. It's not like he forgot how to play the game or what he needs to do to be in position. It's that he can't keep up to make the right play.

Or Toews can be bought out.
- rpeters01

I don't think that would benefit the Hawks at all

Saw an article this mornin that Hawks are shopping seabs and know they hav to retain $$$. Supposedly they told him they are seeing if any interest.
Who knows if true

I don't think that would benefit the Hawks at all
- Savetheembers33

They would save between 1 and 2M over the next three seasons and lose 50% at the dot.

Saw an article this mornin that Hawks are shopping seabs and know they hav to retain $$$. Supposedly they told him they are seeing if any interest.
Who knows if true
- dpard

That would certainly explain the "for somebody" if they had already planted the seed.

They would save between 1 and 2M over the next three seasons and lose 50% at the dot.
- riozzo

Yeah not worth it. He's not at the point where it's hurting the team the way Seabrook has with his decline in play and his contract

Seabs has been a great Blackhawk for years; his leadership, clutch play, and defensive play have been terrific. It is not his fault for signing the awful deal Bowman signed him to, but it is not Colliton's fault that Seabrook is not that good anymore either. Colliton has to play the players that give him the best chance of winning, and right now and probably going forward Seabrook does not do that for this roster!!