Can get a really good player for $10.5.
- rpeters01

They wouldn't have 10.5 if they bought out Toews.

A pre requisite to playing center in the Blackhawks top 6 is going 3rd overall in your draft year.

Toews - 2006
Strome - 2015
Dach - 2019

I wonder if Turris (2007) or Galchenyuk (2012) would consider bolting down the 4th C spot moving forward?

The most they could save would be about 2M dollars meaning you'd be paying Toews about 8.5M to play for another team
- Savetheembers33

and still have to find 9.8 FO wins a game at Toews current 52% clip.

If Seabs were the 6/7 defenseman, making $1.5-$2M, everyone still loves him.
- mohel

I don't disagree but that's not Seabrook's fault.

And if benching guys for being bad is the new thing, when does 19 find his @ss in the box watching? Hell, he might not even be the best center on this team right now, let alone a top 20 center in the NHL (which he isn't)

I posted yesterday.....I think by next year you will see at least 1, possibly 2, hopefully 3 guys off this team in a pool of 2/7/19/50

BTW....Can I just say how much I am LOVING watching Toronto sucking and the heat on Canadian's coaching prince Babcock? It's a beautiful thing to watch from the outside.

and still have to find 9.8 FO wins a game at Toews current 52% clip.
- riozzo

Yeah we're no where near the point of even seriously entertaining the idea of doing something like that

I don't disagree but that's not Seabrook's fault.

And if benching guys for being bad is the new thing, when does 19 find his @ss in the box watching? Hell, he might not even be the best center on this team right now, let alone a top 20 center in the NHL (which he isn't)

I posted yesterday.....I think by next year you will see at least 1, possibly 2, hopefully 3 guys off this team in a pool of 2/7/19/50

BTW....Can I just say how much I am LOVING watching Toronto sucking and the heat on Canadian's coaching prince Babcock? It's a beautiful thing to watch from the outside.
- SteveRain

Clearly Matthews wasn't ready to wear the C and they're missing their true leader, Tavares

Clearly Matthews wasn't ready to wear the C and they're missing their true leader, Tavares
- Slofire94

And their defense is a complete joke.

Again, if this season goes south.....and Babcock is still employed dangle Keith to them. They are desperate and Keith would solidfy their 2nd pairing immediately.

They are going to need D help. They most likely still won't win Babcock's 1st playoff series with their D as it is today.

I don't disagree but that's not Seabrook's fault.

And if benching guys for being bad is the new thing, when does 19 find his @ss in the box watching? Hell, he might not even be the best center on this team right now, let alone a top 20 center in the NHL (which he isn't)

I posted yesterday.....I think by next year you will see at least 1, possibly 2, hopefully 3 guys off this team in a pool of 2/7/19/50

BTW....Can I just say how much I am LOVING watching Toronto sucking and the heat on Canadian's coaching prince Babcock? It's a beautiful thing to watch from the outside.
- SteveRain

Hello, Rain Man. Fully agree that the salary numbers are not Seabs' fault. Not one bit. Agree that Johnny should be next with a consequence- 3rd line, off the PP, off the PK, or in the press box- if he doesn't play better.

Hope you're well.

Hawks can only retain half of Seabs' salary or about 3.4M. There's only 7 or 8 teams with that amount of cap space, so some salary, perhaps in the form of a bad contract would have to come back.

Hawks can only retain half of Seabs' salary or about 3.4M. There's only 7 or 8 teams with that amount of cap space, so some salary, perhaps in the form of a bad contract would have to come back.
- boilermaker100

Seabs to OTT for B Ryan and OTT includes Tchuck as sweetener

Hello, Rain Man. Fully agree that the salary numbers are not Seabs' fault. Not one bit. Agree that Johnny should be next with a consequence- 3rd line, off the PP, off the PK, or in the press box- if he doesn't play better.

Hope you're well.
- mohel

Thanks....trying a new approach and posting in bursts and then giving it a few games.

Toews at 1/1 for 2 points and -5 is more alarming to me then Seabrook's play. Game is faster for 7 and hes been exposed the last year + playing on a horse crap team. I completely disagree for signaling him out as young Jeremy has done, not a fan of JC by any stretch, and I keep coming back to this...….

If you are a fringe every night NHL player with little skins on the wall can you honestly accept a message coming from guys who arguably are playing worse who are at their later day playing careers? I think if you wanted to bench 7, you also sit 19, and just for 1 game send the message and hope it wakes this team up. The team's 2 largest supposed leaders up in the box....think that lights a fire under EVERYONE.

Savard and Quenneville were fired in November if memory serves correct, so this easily could be Jeremy playing some cards earlier given their horrible start.

I think Jeremy is over his skis at the NHL level. Everyone points to his run late last winter/spring as some brownie point for justifying staying with him, and this team has been horrible way too often where they look 100% disinterested.

Bowman has a pot brewing here...…
--Perlini wanted out
--Smith is supposedly being shopped
--YOUR special teams still are a g-damn joke where as if they actually kill off a penalty I am 100% in shock....and if they get a PP shot, ditto
--You have 2 goalies who both are red @sses and want the net and neither like to share. that isn't going to last long
--You benched 1 of your eldest statement on the team...
--IMO, you have a coach trying to make a name for himself but quickly may be losing the room.....

Something is gravely amiss here. Either this is a bottom tiered team in regards to talent OR you have some defactions going on internally in that room. Too many guys OFF

I want to give it until 20+ games to see if he, Jeremey, can right the ship.....but another non playoff year and folks will start to question renewing tickets for dog crap product on the ice, and the continual Bulls approach of half @ssing it in regards to a rebuild.

should have created a new post - this is NOT GOOD


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
· 10m
I asked Seabrook if he was upset about 2nd consecutive scratch:

"What do you think? It's not fun, sitting out."

Said Colliton hasn't talked to him since telling him Sunday he was out of lineup vs. LA.

"There is no conversation. He just told me, that's it."
- pdx2ord

Seabrook is not good anymore, and should spend much of his time in the press box.

That said, he’s an alternate captain, the team leader in the locker room, and part of the core that brought 3 Stanley Cups to the franchise.

He deserves a little more from his coach than being ignored, and not spoken to. JC couldn’t find the time over 48 hours to have a frank conversation with the heart of the team?

#CollitonSucks.

While I don't think that is the intent, that could very well be the potential impact on at least one veteran. From there, it could cause a chain reaction as the veterans in that core are tight, i.e. loyal to each other and not to a new coaching staff.
- AEL_Fox

At the same time, they won in convincing fashion vs the Kings. Unless you are the player being benched the players will always prefer winning to nostalgia

Seabrook is not good anymore, and should spend much of his time in the press box.

That said, he’s an alternate captain, the team leader in the locker room, and part of the core that brought 3 Stanley Cups to the franchise.

He deserves a little more from his coach than being ignored, and not spoken to. JC couldn’t find the time over 48 hours to have a frank conversation with the heart of the team?

#CollitonSucks.
- scottak

And you bench 19 at the same time. 19 has been horse crap all year, but hey....glad he time to sit down and map out a schedule to fix the nHL…..maybe he spend the next segment finding his game?

Never have seen a NHL player fall down is much as 19 does....it's truly remarkable. If 19 is not surrounded by talent on his line, he's not making others better and you can't designate 10.5 million of your cap space to a guy like that.

Respect 2/7/19/88/50 for the past glory, but midnight has struck for everyone not named Kane in that group.

At the same time, they won in convincing fashion vs the Kings. Unless you are the player being benched the players will always prefer winning to nostalgia
- BetweenTheDots

I dont' disagree but I would add if the players think the benching was justified to said player and how long that benching lasts.

1 game against another bottom feeder and dominating them is nice. See how they play tonight vs a championship caliber team in Nashville.

Seabrook is not good anymore, and should spend much of his time in the press box.

That said, he’s an alternate captain, the team leader in the locker room, and part of the core that brought 3 Stanley Cups to the franchise.

He deserves a little more from his coach than being ignored, and not spoken to. JC couldn’t find the time over 48 hours to have a frank conversation with the heart of the team?

#CollitonSucks.
- scottak

Bit of a he said, he said going on right now in regards to whether or not there was a conversation. I agree 100% with your take on what Seabs deserves and if JC didn't talk to him frankly, then he lose all credibility as a great communicator and development coach (which is supposedly why he was hired). I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have, but never know...

If he didn't show him that respect, he will lose that room

Seabrook is not good anymore, and should spend much of his time in the press box.

That said, he’s an alternate captain, the team leader in the locker room, and part of the core that brought 3 Stanley Cups to the franchise.

He deserves a little more from his coach than being ignored, and not spoken to. JC couldn’t find the time over 48 hours to have a frank conversation with the heart of the team?

#CollitonSucks.
- scottak

JC doesn't have to say anything, he definitely doesn't deserve that contract. He got his fat contract then he got really really slow. Honestly it's Seabrook who is jeopardizing JCs job.

Seabrook is not good anymore, and should spend much of his time in the press box.

That said, he’s an alternate captain, the team leader in the locker room, and part of the core that brought 3 Stanley Cups to the franchise.

He deserves a little more from his coach than being ignored, and not spoken to. JC couldn’t find the time over 48 hours to have a frank conversation with the heart of the team?

#CollitonSucks.
- scottak

I agree Colliton may not be worth of trimming Q's stash, however, I cannot believe this comes as a surprise to 7.

Saw an article this mornin that Hawks are shopping seabs and know they hav to retain $$$. Supposedly they told him they are seeing if any interest.
Who knows if true
- dpard

Probably this: https://www.nhltraderumor...t-to-trade-brent.html?m=1

It references Montreal Canadiens, Detroit Red Wings and the Winnipeg Jets as possible suitors!

I get people are wondering why if you bench Seabrook for his bad play that they aren't also benching Toews for his poor play. You can't bench both of those guys. Benching Seabrook is risky given his leadership and hold he has on that locker room, but it was something that needed to be done to spark something with this team. Perhaps even spark Toews and Keith as well to show that what has been accomplished in the past doesn't mean that you're going to be guaranteed the playing time you've received in the past. You bench both and you're asking to piss off your best player and then you will have an even bigger problem on your hands.

As much as Kane has love and respect for his guys who he's already won with, I can almost guarantee he wants to win more than that and if that means benching a guy like Seabrook or Crawford he would do it for the chance to win. Toews might be the only guy he would take exception to because he's been the leader of this team for a decade.

JC doesn't have to say anything, he definitely doesn't deserve that contract. He got his fat contract then he got really really slow. Honestly it's Seabrook who is jeopardizing JCs job.
- BetweenTheDots

I don’t have a problem in benching Seabrook. I have a problem in doing it for a 2nd time without talking to him about it.

That’s weak.

I am surprised nobody is saying maybe we are getting everything Toews has to give, this is what he is...

Therefore, sitting him doesn't do anything.

Oh poop

Gauntlet(?) thrown? "for somebody"


Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis

A visibly upset Brent Seabrook: "I don't think I need rest. I think I feel great, I'm 34, you guys seem to want to write articles about my age and my speed. I feel like I still got a lot to offer in this league and still be a good player for somebody." #Blackhawks

Makes me want to cry for him...proud warrior


This is bad...this is not a good communicator


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
· 10m
I asked Seabrook if he was upset about 2nd consecutive scratch:

"What do you think? It's not fun, sitting out."

Said Colliton hasn't talked to him since telling him Sunday he was out of lineup vs. LA.

"There is no conversation. He just told me, that's it."
- pdx2ord

Interesting choice of words.

I don’t have a problem in benching Seabrook. I have a problem in doing it for a 2nd time without talking to him about it.

That’s weak.
- scottak

Well until we hear from JC about it, it's entirely possible that it got reported before he had a chance to talk to him about it. I'm not saying that this is what happened, but it's entirely possible that he decided to stick with the same lineup someone overheard a conversation and reported it before he had a chance to speak to him about it.

Seabs was good with Maatta, I don't agree with benching him again. One bad game doesn't deserve this. He wasn't the only poopty player to lace up skates that day.
- I Am The Breadman

True, also Seabs is a warrior and deserves better than this. I still think he has a few serviceable years ahead of him.

I'm worried that this situation could get bad before it gets worse. If the club wants to part ways with Seabs then hopefully they can find an amicable way to do it.