Canucks PP is converting at 38% since Hughes joined the 1st unit full time


Sometimes the fans end up being right sooner than the coaches
- Nucker101

That dumb fawk Prock was saying Quinn wasn't even in the calder debate the other day - he said Heinola was ahead of him!!! hahaha Heinola just sent to Manitoba...
- Brooks_Light

Prock

Petey or Makar?
- manvanfan

Petey

Prock

- boonerbuck

Still can't believe people fall for his bait. He's not even trying to hide it anymore either

Is it possible anymore to find defencemen like Weber, Letsng, Ekholm, Slavin, Parayko, Muzzin mid 2nd round or later?

Looking at the players drafted past the 45th spot. I really don't see any young players that have that same quality the ones mentioned above.

A couple young like Severson, Dunn, Klingberg but I wouldn't consider these guys as good as the ones mentioned above.

That dumb fawk Prock was saying Quinn wasn't even in the calder debate the other day - he said Heinola was ahead of him!!! hahaha Heinola just sent to Manitoba...
- Brooks_Light

Sounds the same as someone who said Niku is a game changer for Jets defence.

Petey
- Nucker101

It would be nice to find a player like Makar. Need JB to nab a chabot, McAvoy somewhere in the mid to later first.

Is it possible anymore to find defencemen like Weber, Letsng, Ekholm, Slavin, Parayko, Muzzin mid 2nd round or later?

Looking at the players them drafted past the 45th spot. I really don't see any young players that have that same quality the ones mentioned above.

A couple young like Severson, Dunn, Klingberg but I wouldn't consider these guys as good as the ones mentioned above.
- manvanfan

Need a larger sample size before we can say that it's no longer possible. A couple of those guys you listed were drafted in 2012 and it's too soon to judge the kids drafted over the past couple of drafts so really you're left with a 4-5 year sample size here.

Need a larger sample size before we can say that it's no longer possible. A couple of those guys you listed were drafted in 2012 and it's too soon to judge the kids drafted over the past couple of drafts so really you're left with a 4-5 year sample size here.
- Nucker101

Some flyers fan did a big report on it but it was if you weren't considered a top line defender by 22, it was extremely rare you become one later.

2012 draft was 7 years ago.

Some flyers fan did a big report on it but it was if you weren't considered a top line defender by 22, it was extremely rare you become one later.

2012 draft was 7 years ago.
- manvanfan

Yeah, I've read a few articles busting the "dmen need time to develop" myth.

Apparently it used to be somewhat true back before the cap era, but is no longer true at all. Combination of teams wanting ELC's on their team that can contribute + league moving toward more of a finesse speedy style of game + kids just being better prepared when coming into the league now.

But I assume that it still holds somewhat true for later round picks, no? Usually late round prospects almost have to go through the AHL even if they develop really well since being drafted. Meanwhile a 1st round pick who has a strong camp typically gets a shot to be on the NHL team unless the team is loaded at his position.

Trash player. Only a reject like Prez could love him
- CanuckDon

What happened to Pressy is he still arguing with himself in an old thread?

Prock

- boonerbuck

The lighter version of Tanner.

Yeah, I've read a few articles busting the "dmen need time to develop" myth.

Apparently it used to be somewhat true back before the cap era, but is no longer true at all. Combination of teams wanting ELC's on their team that can contribute + league moving toward more of a finesse speedy style of game + kids just being better prepared when coming into the league now.

But I assume that it still holds somewhat true for later round picks, no? Usually late round prospects almost have to go through the AHL even if they develop really well since being drafted. Meanwhile a 1st round pick who has a strong camp typically gets a shot to be on the NHL team unless the team is loaded at his position.
- Nucker101

In terms of #1 D, I wouldn't say there is 30 of them around the league. There has to be though. I think in terms of quality of D is just overrated around in the league.

Teams have definitely smartened up and are picking potential good D much higher than they used to be.

I still think D need more time to develop than forwards but doesn't mean they can't play in the NHL but lesser minutes, easier situations.

I was reading an article that Euro D picked later in the draft has a higher percentage than a NA player to make it to the NHL because of development time.

What happened to Pressy is he still arguing with himself in an old thread?
- LordHumungous

He had a meltdown and left 🥰

He had a meltdown and left 🥰
- CanuckDon

Daily meltdowns