That doesn’t get Mittelstadt the extra icetime you want though
- jdfitz77

Well, I'd play the fourth line like 10-11 minutes a night, honestly, and give the extra couple minutes to Mittelstadt's line. They've been better defensively and offensively.

Because 'this pace' is 2-2-1, and all we seem capable of is 2 goals a game? Line changes aren't a big deal, most coaches change lines up all the time. What are the odds Krueger's first crack at groupings is actually the optimal one?

See my last post for the lines I would try.

I would also like to see him come up with a definitive answer within the system for how he plans to deal with 2 deep forecheckers, because right now the team has no answer for being pressured in their own end.

Lastly, stop leaning so hard on McCabe and Risto in the thirds. Maybe the other guys can't handle tough assignments, but those two have proven they can't. Dahlin may give up a dumb goal, or he might also help you get the puck out to play a few shifts in the other end. They didn't play like this in the beginning, and it's 100% on Krueger that he has retreated into a shell recently, when he wasn't doing that the first 5 games.
- matty12345

5 game sample sizes are extremely small

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Just need a firestick, very easy to do
- Pet.m.d.

I have an Nvidia Shield, which I like better than the Firestick for other reasons. Doing some research, it sounds like it's compatible with that so long as you sideload it.

5 game sample sizes are extremely small
- jdfitz77

So is the 7-0-1 start?

Coaches change lines after a bad period. I don't get why people are scared to change lines after 13 games. Some of the lines are obviously not optimal.

Getting a 50 point RW for the team will not make us worse
- jcragcrumple

Well you’re presumably trading Risto to get that RW, correct??

That would be a major shakeup on the backend
And would remain to be seen how that would work out

Getting a 50 point RW for the team will not make us worse
- jcragcrumple

Would you like a list of deadline deals that never really panned out for us?

Well you’re presumably trading Risto to get that RW, correct??

That would be a major shakeup on the backend
And would remain to be seen how that would work out
- jdfitz77

Incorrect

There are plenty of scenarios that wouldn't involve doing so, although that's one option

In the meantime, I'd try this:

Sheary Eichel Reinhart
Skinner Mojo Okposo
Olofsson Mittelstadt Vesey
Girgs Larsson Sobotka
- matty12345

Sobotka is better 5v5 than goalofson
if you put goalof on the 4th you can let him do his offensive thing and hope larsson and gus can keep up

so when we suck, we complain, when we have a 10 game win streak we complain that they were only by one goal, and now that we start the season 9-2-2, have a good goal differential and have scoring from all lines and one of the top power paly units, we still complain...

Just want to make sure I'm doing this right.

for the record, I would change NOTHing, WE ARE WINNING....

Would you like a list of deadline deals that never really panned out for us?
- hubie

I'm not suggesting to go the "pure rental" route, although it can be a good strategy in the right scenario.

It certainly worked out for the Bruins with Mojo. He was great for them. Zubrus was a pretty good rental for us back in the day

You could argue Skinner was a rental for us. We just signed him at the end

Well you’re presumably trading Risto to get that RW, correct??

That would be a major shakeup on the backend
And would remain to be seen how that would work out
- jdfitz77

nah, just go get holtby and backstrom from the caps easy peezey

I'm not suggesting to go the "pure rental" route, although it can be a good strategy in the right scenario.

It certainly worked out for the Bruins with Mojo. He was great for them. Zubrus was a pretty good rental for us back in the day

You could argue Skinner was a rental for us. We just signed him at the end
- jcragcrumple

I honestly would like the rental route
hoping atleast one guy can come up

Well you’re presumably trading Risto to get that RW, correct??

That would be a major shakeup on the backend
And would remain to be seen how that would work out
- jdfitz77

People are terrified of losing here. I think it's been so bad so long, that when it goes good, everyone is holding their breath. Don't point out the stats are unsustainable, you'll jynx it! Don't switch the lines, which happens on a nightly basis around the league, because we don't actively suck, and we might again if we lose the magic of Sobotka! Don't make a trad eto make us better, because what could possibly be better than not being the worst team in the league! 9-2-2, don't change a thing, and don't breathe too loud!

I get it. But anyone by now can get a good grip on this team. They've played good, they;re better than last year, they're not 9-4 good like their record, and they have obvious holes. So lets just get down to the business of improving the team, and aim a little higher than 'the team doesn't suck'.

so when we suck, we complain, when we have a 10 game win streak we complain that they were only by one goal, and now that we start the season 9-2-2, have a good goal differential and have scoring from all lines and one of the top power paly units, we still complain...

Just want to make sure I'm doing this right.

for the record, I would change NOTHing, WE ARE WINNING....
- hehateme

Aim a little higher?

The patriots are undefeated, but they go get a receiver. The 5-2 bills do nothing. The goal isn't to win a few games in October, it's to win the cup.

I'm not suggesting to go the "pure rental" route, although it can be a good strategy in the right scenario.

It certainly worked out for the Bruins with Mojo. He was great for them. Zubrus was a pretty good rental for us back in the day

You could argue Skinner was a rental for us. We just signed him at the end
- jcragcrumple

couple names most dont throw out
Pageau and Namestikonov OTT D and a prospect may fit?
Fast NYR
Helm Antanisou get a nice young winger and a veteran guy for the playoffs

Aim a little higher?

The patriots are undefeated, but they go get a receiver. The 5-2 bills do nothing. The goal isn't to win a few games in October, it's to win the cup.
- matty12345

Honest question... do we have the depth to got and make moves?
reason I ask is the Pats have all the depth in the world and can afford to make that move. Year and years of dealing the last 4 picks in the 1st for multiple picks later

couple names most dont throw out
Pageau and Namestikonov OTT D and a prospect may fit?
Fast NYR
Helm Antanisou get a nice young winger and a veteran guy for the playoffs
- hubie

He's one I'd really like and he's having an awful season which could potentially lower the price

He's one I'd really like and he's having an awful season which could potentially lower the price
- jcragcrumple

I feel like they have so many guys coming up to contract and that they are really in need of some changes. There have to be a few young guys they like. Also taking a guy like helm would free them of some cash.

So is the 7-0-1 start?

Coaches change lines after a bad period. I don't get why people are scared to change lines after 13 games. Some of the lines are obviously not optimal.
- matty12345

It’s 60% more of a sample size though, lol

And it’s not that I’m “scared” to change the lines
I just recognize that the game is played on the ice,
not a stat sheet
And your stats don’t (and can’t) measure things like chemistry
Or how confidence in your linemates grows from that chemistry & leads to production on ice

Shaking thing up makes sense when you’re 2-9-2
not 9-2-2

That doesn’t mean tweaks can’t/shouldn’t be tried,
but switching up every line at once seems an unnecessary risk to the chemistry & production that’s gotten us to 9-2-2

so when we suck, we complain, when we have a 10 game win streak we complain that they were only by one goal, and now that we start the season 9-2-2, have a good goal differential and have scoring from all lines and one of the top power paly units, we still complain...

Just want to make sure I'm doing this right.

for the record, I would change NOTHing, WE ARE WINNING....
- hehateme

Sure, but will we be winning January onwards ? Cause although every game counts and nobody can take away our 9-2-2 start we still have 69 games to play.

Incorrect

There are plenty of scenarios that wouldn't involve doing so, although that's one option
- jcragcrumple

How are we replacing Sobotka at RW2 with a 50point player if there’s no trade?

Please list the “plenty of scenarios”

couple names most dont throw out
Pageau and Namestikonov OTT D and a prospect may fit?
Fast NYR
Helm Antanisou get a nice young winger and a veteran guy for the playoffs
- hubie

Namestnikov isn't going anywhere, they just acquired him.

Athanasiou is someone I've been mentioning for a while.

How are we replacing Sobotka at RW2 with a 50point player if there’s no trade?

Please list the “plenty of scenarios”
- jdfitz77

This is what you said:

"Well you’re presumably trading Risto to get that RW, correct??"

There are plenty of trade scenarios not involving Risto. Picks, prospects, other roster players

How are we replacing Sobotka at RW2 with a 50point player if there’s no trade?

Please list the “plenty of scenarios”
- jdfitz77

I think he meant that Ristolainen wasn't the only trade option in order to acquire one.

Honest question... do we have the depth to got and make moves?
reason I ask is the Pats have all the depth in the world and can afford to make that move. Year and years of dealing the last 4 picks in the 1st for multiple picks later
- hubie

Trading the future to win now...no. We aren't close enough. But making good moves to improve the roster, I'd do that everyday. Is there a Miller type trade to make? A montour type trade? A Jokiharju trade? To get half our D core, Botts traded 3 picks, and two prospects.

Do Pekar, Ruotsoleinen, Pilutm and a couple picks get me two forwards? If so I'm in.