I was tired last night, grouchy and was disgusted with the Hawks play so I turned it off. It appears I missed nothing, though they got a point, so there is that. I am abstaining from comments on the team at this time and will just watch until I can't stomach it anymore.

good luck playing a transition game with this type of possession
- bogiedoc

Chicken or egg: any kind of transition game would improve that graph.

This team needs to tank, but it also needs to score so that it has tradable assets.

Also, Toews played much better last night.

Another loss . I listened to the post game comments by both toews and the coach. It's clear that this team is morally down and lost. The excuses are beyond disrespectful to the fans and the team. I'm not sure what game JC was watching but to even insinuate that these guys even played well for a little bit is outright insulting.

Crawford clearly wasn't ready to start the game , ok sure after he left and came back he played better, the point is if your not prepared from the time the puck drops than this team as of right now can't build consistency. Crawford looked lost .

Keith Seabrook toews and Kane are all mia . Replace Stan, and the entire coaching staff and trade away the core and rebuild this team the right way.

They have some great young pieces to work with and Lehner.

For Kane strome and cat to be struggling or mia it's something deeper going on .

Powers noted the same trends as last year are in place: "The reality is after 12 games the Blackhawks are among the bottom five teams in the NHL in shot attempts against per 60 minutes, shots on goal against, scoring chances against, high-danger chances against and expected goals against in five-on-five play. Not much has changed since last season."

Another loss . I listened to the post game comments by both toews and the coach. It's clear that this team is morally down and lost. The excuses are beyond disrespectful to the fans and the team. I'm not sure what game JC was watching but to even insinuate that these guys even played well for a little bit is outright insulting.

Crawford clearly wasn't ready to start the game , ok sure after he left and came back he played better, the point is if your not prepared from the time the puck drops than this team as of right now can't build consistency. Crawford looked lost .

Keith Seabrook toews and Kane are all mia . Replace Stan, and the entire coaching staff and trade away the core and rebuild this team the right way.

They have some great young pieces to work with and Lehner.

For Kane strome and cat to be struggling or mia it's something deeper going on .
- Taylorst1

As has been posted here countless times, Seab's deal is likely untradable, and so is the Captain's...maybe Keith, definitely Kane, but I'd only trade the latter if someone's willing to give up a high end prospect/s and 1st round pick/s.

Think you'd need to get some package like that to trade 88.

If the race to the bottom continues though, they are staring at another top 5 pick... which in the long run isn't bad.

Chicken or egg: any kind of transition game would improve that graph.
- StLBravesFan

you might be right...but they don't have ingredient to play like they did 5-6 years ago...gotta get the puck and get it up ice, they are not very good at forcing turnovers

I was tired last night, grouchy and was disgusted with the Hawks play so I turned it off. It appears I missed nothing, though they got a point, so there is that. I am abstaining from comments on the team at this time and will just watch until I can't stomach it anymore.
- kwolf68

cya next year...

As has been posted here countless times, Seab's deal is likely untradable, and so is the Captain's...maybe Keith, definitely Kane, but I'd only trade the latter if someone's willing to give up a high end prospect/s and 1st round pick/s.

Think you'd need to get some package like that to trade 88.

If the race to the bottom continues though, they are staring at another top 5 pick... which in the long run isn't bad.
- HawkintheD

There comes a point where NMC and NTC's are not a factor because players who still want to win will want to get out of bad situations. Tradeability then becomes the problem and that is where we are headed. All we can hope for now are permanent LTIR's.

you might be right...but they don't have ingredient to play like they did 5-6 years ago...gotta get the puck and get it up ice, they are not very good at forcing turnovers
- bogiedoc

Better ingredients would help - certainly more speed on a very slow (by today’s standards) team.

But so would better positioning - players being in the right spots to accept the first pass in the transition, and then someone farther up to get the second - and everyone trusting that their ice-mates will be in those good positions. You need discipline and reaction more than speed.

And they need to understand the options when the first choice is covered.

These guys all look like they have no idea where to be on the ice - so the puck-carrier is thinking and looking instead of reacting, and passes get missed / thrown into oppo sticks....

Better ingredients would help - certainly more speed on a very slow (by today’s standards) team.

But so would better positioning - players being in the right spots to accept the first pass in the transition, and then someone farther up to get the second - and everyone trusting that their ice-mates will be in those good positions. You need discipline and reaction more than speed.

And they need to understand the options when the first choice is covered.

These guys all look like they have no idea where to be on the ice - so the puck-carrier is thinking and looking instead of reacting, and passes get missed / thrown into oppo sticks....
- StLBravesFan

Agree a lot with this, same with defense last 2 games they are where the puck was not where the puck is going to be. So much chasing in their own end, once they got possession did a better job of skating to the puck along the boards but just bad with their outlet pass.

Ive noticed the games they look good in their is a lot of puck support with good anticipation. The last 2 minimal puck support.

In spite of all this 1st 2 goals CC needs to be better, AHL dman on the ice for the 3rd. Koekkoek he tries but he's really not that good, and i think it was him and Gusto on the ice for the 2 goals against vs the Preds. I'd rather have 6 NHL dmen on the ice and 50 shots against, then 3 NHL dmen on the ice and 30 shots against. The space in front of the goalies is so much more vulnerable with the inferior dmen on the ice.

At some point, probably after this season, they are going to have to bite the bullet and buy Seabrook out. Having a negative locker room situation because he doesn't like sitting and the rest of the core is disgruntled is not good moving forward.

At some point, probably after this season, they are going to have to bite the bullet and buy Seabrook out. Having a negative locker room situation because he doesn't like sitting and the rest of the core is disgruntled is not good moving forward.
- tazer_and_diet

Seabrook played a much better game last night then vs Flyers

Disgruntled, sure they are frustrated, if you lose you'll always have a disgruntled locker room doesn't matter, no one likes losing.

Im more worried about our primary goal scorer isn't the same player. Cat can't keep a puck on his stick, can't make a pass, and can't snap it home like he used to. I think the training he did in the off season has really affected his feel for the puck on his stick. I heard Saad uses the same guy and wondering if that's why the puck is allergic to his stick as well.

So many plays have died this year on Cats stick

Sometimes I have to remind myself that this and other hockey blog sites serve a valuable public service by providing a space for catharsis - a place where angry Hawks fans can come to vent rather than kick their dog or yell at their children. It's also a place for sharing and hearing confirmation bias with fellow Stan and/or Colliton and/or life-in-general haters ... misery does love company. But, not to be too discouraging, it is also a place to find occasional insight and ... dare I say it ... hope - hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that one day these dark days will be but a distant memory. So I come here and slog through the pessimism porn to find a hopeful morsel here and there because what else can I do - the Hawks are my team through thick and thin and that includes my fellow Hawks fans who love the team as much as I but just have a different outlook and way of dealing with the current situation.

Fewest wins in the league tied with Ottawa....Ottawa!!
We're last in the league boys and girls (or very close).
At what point does ownership say enough is enough?
It's time to officially rebuild. Has been for a while but it keeps getting worse and worse. Sad to see actually.
Get a good GM and a NHL experienced coach. Move away from Seabs, CC, Toews, Saad and Keith. Get what you can even if have to retain salary. It's the only way to move forward and establish a new core! This current formula just aint working no more. Has not a long time.

Seabrook played a much better game last night then vs Flyers

Disgruntled, sure they are frustrated, if you lose you'll always have a disgruntled locker room doesn't matter, no one likes losing.
- BetweenTheDots

That and I think it’s been shown buying him out really doesn’t save them much money against the Cap except for really one of the years remaining.

Sometimes I have to remind myself that this and other hockey blog sites serve a valuable public service by providing a space for catharsis - a place where angry Hawks fans can come to vent rather than kick their dog or yell at their children. It's also a place for sharing and hearing confirmation bias with fellow Stan and/or Colliton and/or life-in-general haters ... misery does love company. But, not to be too discouraging, it is also a place to find occasional insight and ... dare I say it ... hope - hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that one day these dark days will be but a distant memory. So I come here and slog through the pessimism porn to find a hopeful morsel here and there because what else can I do - the Hawks are my team through thick and thin and that includes my fellow Hawks fans who love the team as much as I but just have a different outlook and way of dealing with the current situation.
- EbonyRaptor

Pessimism porn...love it!!!

I get some of the negativity, it is what it is...though, kind of like you (I think) am trying to look at the bigger picture and that this may be a necessary rock bottom moment, or means to an end if you will.

It looks like the team is drafting well and identifying other teams “busts” or “one man’s trash” as possible treasure (Nylander, Strome).

I think if they keep doing that, they will be back in the mix before too long.

That and I think it’s been shown buying him out really doesn’t save them much money against the Cap except for really one of the years remaining.
- HawkintheD

It's better than dealing with this circus every time he's a healthy scratch. It's an unnecessary distraction and he is not part of the future.

Pessimism porn...love it!!!

I get some of the negativity, it is what it is...though, kind of like you (I think) am trying to look at the bigger picture and that this may be a necessary rock bottom moment, or means to an end if you will.

It looks like the team is drafting well and identifying other teams “busts” or “one man’s trash” as possible treasure (Nylander, Strome).

I think if they keep doing that, they will be back in the mix before too long.
- HawkintheD

We are not getting these for free. In fact it may be proven in the future that we overpaid in valuable assets.

That and I think it’s been shown buying him out really doesn’t save them much money against the Cap except for really one of the years remaining.
- HawkintheD

If the buyout Cap hit is anywhere near his Cap hit to play, you are better off just playing him and hoping for an LTIR.

If the buyout Cap hit is anywhere near his Cap hit to play, you are better off just playing him and hoping for an LTIR.
- 67hawks

I disagree, he'll be taking up a slot that can be used by some of our young defenders. Of course they should try to trade him with 50% retained, but they should not give up any picks/sweeteners.

Just imagine if he's bad this year how much worse he will be 2 years from now. Woof

We are not getting these for free. In fact it may be proven in the future that we overpaid in valuable assets.
- 67hawks

No doubt and that wasn’t my premise. In a perfect world, these deals work out for both teams.

It was debatable whether Schmaltz would ever be an NHL center and even though I wasn’t a fan of the Nylander deal initially, I think it’s looked better than most of us expected.

I think these deals get judged another year or two down the road as they are all still very young players.