Only way I trade Borgen is for a bonafide top 6 center who will center Skins and MOJO

and before people get up in arms.. Mitts Cozens etc can go there when they play their way there.
- hubie

I mean, I like Borgen and all but he isn’t fetching anything remotely close to a 2C.

I don’t think he has the value Guhle had last year

[quote=Swedish_Jesus]
Disagree. He has a ton of talent. He was buried on the bottom six in toronto because...well they're loaded. He would get to play 2RW here and I imagine he could get 50 points.

He makes as much money as Erod, so it's not a huge investment. I've got way too many defensemen anyway, and I don't think Borgen projects to be anything more than a bottom pairing defenseman.

weber, ennis, and a 3rd

what 6.8 mil are you giving the red wings back in salary?
- homiedclown

im not the numbers guy lol

[quote=matty12345]
why would the sens just give away connor brown though?

Agreed
Which makes me wonder,
What would Botts value more....
a mid round pick we could get for Scandella,
or the depth he’d provide)
- jdfitz77

A mid round pick and $4m in cap space that could be used to bring in a better player in another move.

im not the numbers guy lol
- hubie

Agreed
Which makes me wonder,
What would Botts value more....
a mid round pick we could get for Scandella,
or the depth he’d provide)
- jdfitz77

doable once the playoff picture looks more clear for some other teams

Per Dreger, we’re trying to add a top 6 and bottom 6 forward.

Per Dreger, we’re trying to add a top 6 and bottom 6 forward.
- sbroads24

same Dreger that said we were trading Risto 6 months ago?

same Dreger that said we were trading Risto 6 months ago?
- homiedclown

He gone

i don't think you are goign to get one team willing to take BOTH Bogo and Scandella and then give you something of value...
- SabresFaninIndiana

you're probably right about that.

I'd trade Scandella now if they can. Then look to move Bogo and another piece not named Borgen or Pekar once Bogo is healthy.

why would the sens just give away connor brown though?
- homiedclown

Because he is 25 and an RFA after the season, and they are at least two - three years from winning. Connor Brown was a nice throw in for them in the leafs deal, but he can't possibly be part of their core. When you are a potentially good team like the Sabres, getting a middle six winger who is hitting his prime can really help you win. For Ottawa, he isn't a core building block, and he isn't 22-23, so I'm confident they'll deal him by the deadline.

They won't give him away, but they'll get a 2nd rounder or a prospect like Borgen for him.

Dreger was on the instigators just now agreeing that the sabres are looking at the kings for toffoli.
- Shadman306

He’s been declining for a few years now
And doesn’t have the grit or speed we should be looking to add
He might be able to bounce back
But unless he comes very cheap, I’m not really a fan of spending assets to get a rental

A mid round pick and $4m in cap space that could be used to bring in a better player in another move.
- adambuffalo

That’s true. Good point about the added Cap space

He’s been declining for a few years now
And doesn’t have the grit or speed we should be looking to add
He might be able to bounce back
But unless he comes very cheap, I’m not really a fan of spending assets to get a rental
- jdfitz77

how many kings games must one watch to make an adequate grit and speed analysis

how many kings games must one watch to make an adequate grit and speed analysis
- robz228

Jeff Skinner was 5th in the NHL in individual expected goals the other day

Toffoli was 14th at that time.

He’d be a great get

same Dreger that said we were trading Risto 6 months ago?
- homiedclown

In all fairness, trading Risto over the summer would've made sense. We have a log jam. With Gilmour, Borgen and Pilut, we certainly have the depth to make a move and need middle 6 help.

He wasn't correct, you're right. But logic would say that it had to be an option.

Jeff Skinner was 5th in the NHL in individual expected goals the other day

Toffoli was 14th at that time.

He’d be a great get
- sbroads24

i've never watched a kings game besides vs the sabres so im just curious how i can find a trusted source on his grit and speed

In all fairness, trading Risto over the summer would've made sense. We have a log jam. With Gilmour, Borgen and Pilut, we certainly have the depth to make a move and need middle 6 help.

He wasn't correct, you're right. But logic would say that it had to be an option.
- RhinoFan

It’s absolutely still an option and is the obvious one.

The future of this D is Jokiharju/Dahlin up top.

We won’t be giving Risto a giant deal in two years to stay anyways

how many kings games must one watch to make an adequate grit and speed analysis
- robz228

Depends on the size of your TV and how close you are sitting to it.

He gone
- jochfr

Wait for it.

It’s absolutely still an option and is the obvious one.

The future of this D is Jokiharju/Dahlin up top.

We won’t be giving Risto a giant deal in two years to stay anyways
- sbroads24

Probably right. I assumed that some teams kicked tires, but the return just wasn't worth it for us to deal him. If his play is better this year we could potentially get a lot more in return. Might have been savy on Botts part. Time will tell.

Probably right. I assumed that some teams kicked tires, but the return just wasn't worth it for us to deal him. If his play is better this year we could potentially get a lot more in return. Might have been savy on Botts part. Time will tell.
- RhinoFan

Agreed.

how many kings games must one watch to make an adequate grit and speed analysis
- robz228

Do u think he’s fast or adds the toughness we could use?
I don’t see it