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Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Nov 6 @ 1:38 PM ET
we should definitely get AA, if only to listen to Rob Ray (who gets paid to talk, unbelievably) try to say his name.

Here's the man, passes acrosst to Athenyou….the other player is there. *unintelligible mumbling*. back to you in the boof.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
we should definitely get AA, if only to listen to Rob Ray (who gets paid to talk, unbelievably) try to say his name.

Here's the man, passes acrosst to Athenyou….the other player is there. *unintelligible mumbling*. back to you in the boof.

- Khmylev




Assathassoo
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
we should definitely get AA, if only to listen to Rob Ray (who gets paid to talk, unbelievably) try to say his name.

Here's the man, passes acrosst to Athenyou….the other player is there. *unintelligible mumbling*. back to you in the boof.

- Khmylev


lol

an than you ... what than you what what are you talking about marty
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
Nathan Sue
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
Hes more Cheecoo than perennial goal scorer
9,18,16,30,1 in 262 games am i missing something.

- hubie


Like I said, you're working really hard to convince yourself he's going to come cheap. Yet, you like him and know better. We're not going to pick Yzerman's pockets.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Nov 6 @ 1:44 PM ET
Nathan Sue
- hubie

It may even make Rick (Van Miller) Jeannerette retire.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 1:45 PM ET
Like I said, you're working really hard to convince yourself he's going to come cheap. Yet, you like him and know better. We're not going to pick Yzerman's pockets.
- Lunaion


Guess im just smart enough to not over pay for a guy who has the same amount of goals as sobotka.

and its funny one person says its cheap and another says they wont deal that player cause they are playing so well

P.s. i dont work hard in anything
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Nov 6 @ 1:46 PM ET
same
- hubie

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tusr-L6o_DQ

Check it out. Get yourself a fire stick, follow the directions to install the cinema. Everything you could ever want at your fingertips. I watched joker on there 5 days before it hit the theaters.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tusr-L6o_DQ

Check it out. Get yourself a fire stick, follow the directions to install the cinema. Everything you could ever want at your fingertips. I watched joker on there 5 days before it hit the theaters.

- TheHank


I have a jail broken firestick
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Nov 6 @ 1:48 PM ET
I have a jail broken firestick
- hubie

Cool.
That link is for anyone who wants it. I just grabbed the last post on the topic.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 1:48 PM ET
Cool.
That link is for anyone who wants it. I just grabbed the last post on the topic.

- TheHank


Thank you though, sometimes its good to wipe and re do it
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Nov 6 @ 1:49 PM ET
Thank you though, sometimes its good to wipe and re do it
- hubie

They update it every month or two. It’ll get shut down soon enough but a new one will pop right up and so on.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
Guess im just smart enough to not over pay for a guy who has the same amount of goals as sobotka.

and its funny one person says its cheap and another says they wont deal that player cause they are playing so well

P.s. i dont work hard in anything

- hubie


Mention a trade and you get slammed on both sides.

Detroit's rebuilding, any deal starts with a 1st or significant prospect.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 6 @ 2:07 PM ET
Mention a trade and you get slammed on both sides.

Detroit's rebuilding, any deal starts with a 1st or significant prospect.

- Lunaion


You get this:






Or you get this



Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 6 @ 2:09 PM ET
You get this:

- jcragcrumple


Pretty much. Fills some dead time between games.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 2:19 PM ET
Like I said, you're working really hard to convince yourself he's going to come cheap. Yet, you like him and know better. We're not going to pick Yzerman's pockets.
- Lunaion


The question is, what exactly is he...2nd line 55pt, or 3rd line 35pt?
2 years as 35pt, 1 year at 55pt, this year completely poopting the bed.
Yes they suck, but is he or is he not a line driver?
This year on pace for 6/30/36 and -104 , in a contract year. (That's a new approach to secure a payday )
Is he LW or C? Presumptively C, but not great on the dot and certainly a defensive liability.

So, he needs to be protected by getting O-zone starts, and playing with decent talent.
That's fine, and could be slotted between Skinner and Mojo, so there is a fit.

All that stacks up to a 2nd/3rd line tweeter, and to me that should be the value.

Detroit looking for younger Dmen I would think.
Maybe Pilut and Vesey/Sheary?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 6 @ 2:24 PM ET
have to give to get and works out financially. Also we have plenty of D and he can be replaced easily.
R you in the boat of only trading out Poopty players that nobody wants?

Yes I want to deal scandy and bogo but what we have to add i dont want to do.

- hubie



I'm all for trading someone good if it's an upgrade. Sam for example.

My point is:
I doubt a team would name jake a captain, then trade him.
And he also provides exactly what we need on he back end. Physicality and defensively responseable.

Seems like we have a surplus of puck moving d. To get you need to give, but not open a week spot
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
Mention a trade and you get slammed on both sides.

Detroit's rebuilding, any deal starts with a 1st or significant prospect.

- Lunaion


I agree, we should all realize how a rebuild works:

I'd give them our 1st this year (lottery protected) and a couple prospects. Borgen or pilut

At some point we need to be taken seriously. Moving some future for now
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 2:35 PM ET
I agree, we should all realize how a rebuild works:

I'd give them our 1st this year (lottery protected) and a couple prospects. Borgen or pilut

At some point we need to be taken seriously. Moving some future for now

- Boss34


I wouldn't mind paying for the right guy, and I think he could be it, but he has flaws in addition to being all over the map as to what he is, what to expect. I think a 1st + is too much.
For ROR, future Selke and MVP we got
2 cap dumps, a late first (protected), B prospect, distant 2nd.

AA is no ROR.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
What’s so special about Athanasiou ? Guy had one good year.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 6 @ 2:41 PM ET
What’s so special about Athanasiou ? Guy had one good year.
- Swedish_Jesus


2 of the guys in our top 6 have never had one good year, so it's an upgrade
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
I wouldn't mind paying for the right guy, and I think he could be it, but he has flaws in addition to being all over the map as to what he is, what to expect. I think a 1st + is too much.
For ROR, future Selke and MVP we got
2 cap dumps, a late first (protected), B prospect, distant 2nd.

AA is no ROR.

- IonSabres


Too many external factors to compare to RoR.

AA in the rental market gets a 1st + easily. As an RFA, that just goes up.

Not sold on him as a key long term piece here either.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
Happy Birthday to Samson "Visionville" Reinhart

Suck it haters.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Nov 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
I still think Winnipeg is the team to target. Looking to Detroit is tough to gauge a trade especially because big trades within the division are always hard to predict. Not as hard nowadays where the teams don't play as often, but still tough to determine.
How about a trade with the Jets for Laine and Byfuglien sending back Risto, Bogo, Sheary and someone like ERod or Vesey?
Jets get immediate D help which they definitely need and gets rid of the circus surrounding them with Buff that could linger into next season as well.
Buffalo gets the best player in the deal and frees up roster space to call up someone like TT. If Buff comes back good, if not he's buried and his cap doesn't count.
Laine, although not scoring a lot of goals, is having a pretty good season. 3g and 11a (3g 7a at even strength) all while shooting at a career low 6.4%. Also is tied for the most hits among forwards. He would be the natural sniper that we desperately could use. He will still be an RFA when his contract is up and Mojo's $4.5m will be off the books.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
I still think Winnipeg is the team to target. Looking to Detroit is tough to gauge a trade especially because big trades within the division are always hard to predict. Not as hard nowadays where the teams don't play as often, but still tough to determine.
How about a trade with the Jets for Laine and Byfuglien sending back Risto, Bogo, Sheary and someone like ERod or Vesey?
Jets get immediate D help which they definitely need and gets rid of the circus surrounding them with Buff that could linger into next season as well.
Buffalo gets the best player in the deal and frees up roster space to call up someone like TT. If Buff comes back good, if not he's buried and his cap doesn't count.
Laine, although not scoring a lot of goals, is having a pretty good season. 3g and 11a (3g 7a at even strength) all while shooting at a career low 6.4%. Also is tied for the most hits among forwards. He would be the natural sniper that we desperately could use. He will still be an RFA when his contract is up and Mojo's $4.5m will be off the books.

- adambuffalo


Laine and Buff for Risto and 3 guys with no term left?
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