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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 8:33 AM ET
Dreger saying Botts is now out shopping, and LeBrun indicating that a possible timeline for Sabres to deal is after they get through November. Tie that with EK (I know) speculating on Sabres possible interest in AA, could be interesting in 3 weeks time.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 6 @ 8:38 AM ET
Dreger saying Botts is now out shopping, and LeBrun indicating that a possible timeline for Sabres to deal is after they get through November. Tie that with EK (I know) speculating on Sabres possible interest in AA, could be interesting in 3 weeks time.
- IonSabres


Yeah I saw the clip last night. Botts has to add a good player while breaking even salary wise or shedding some salary

So what ever he does. Will be interesting.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:40 AM ET
I'm ok with the Sabres never participating in these Global Series again.
Really screwed-up the schedule.
Hopefully Krueger and Staff take advantage of the additional practice time available to clean-up their game and get back to the style and pace they came with earlier in the season.

- IonSabres


Agreed. It feels like we haven't played in forever at this point. No game today and no game tomorrow.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 6 @ 8:44 AM ET
Evander Kane being sued by the Cosmopolitan for $500K in unpaid markers.

Just going to leave it here. He hasn't gotten his share of hate in about 3 weeks.

- Wetbandit1



Poor guy is just misunderstood.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 6 @ 8:54 AM ET
Evander Kane being sued by the Cosmopolitan for $500K in unpaid markers.

Just going to leave it here. He hasn't gotten his share of hate in about 3 weeks.

- Wetbandit1


He’s averaging a point per game, brings a physical element, and plays on all special teams (scored a short handed goal last night).

Sharks are getting their $7M worth
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 9:00 AM ET
He’s averaging a point per game, brings a physical element, and plays on all special teams (scored a short handed goal last night).

Sharks are getting their $7M worth

- Swedish_Jesus


I always like the effort, and his toughness..
But he might be among the dumbest players with the worst shot selection I have ever seen.
Pure volume shooter, he never saw a shot he didn't like or take.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 6 @ 9:03 AM ET
https://theathletic.com/1...ming-more-popular-in-nhl/

In other news, water is wet and Rob Johnson has a Super Bowl ring.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Nov 6 @ 9:12 AM ET
Agreed. It feels like we haven't played in forever at this point. No game today and no game tomorrow.
- HonkFortheGoose



The break seems to be showing in the practice clips they have. They show a lot of speed and attention to detail, but it's small glimpses.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 6 @ 9:25 AM ET
https://theathletic.com/1324841/2019/11/05/the-secret-everybody-knows-drugs-like-cocaine-and-molly-becoming-more-popular-in-nhl/

In other news, water is wet and Rob Johnson has a Super Bowl ring.

- buffalofan19



I saw this yesterday and was going to post something about it. I mean, we probably all kinda knew this stuff was going on, but I will say that it is concerning on some level. I couldn't care less about marijuana use and feel like the NFL needs to re-evaluate their views on it, but these other drugs need to have some sort of testing and consequences for using it, IMO anyway.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 9:27 AM ET
So if Botts is out shopping for 2 F's and for this exercise ise, let's just say 1 is AA; whom would you prefer to include in a realistic deal, again assuming the are looking for Dman...of course, feel free to expand the trade if you want rather than strictly a 1:1
AA is 25 signed at $3m, and is a pending RFA, said to have a tough agent who has had AA hold out in the past.

McCabe, 26, $2.9m, 2020-202, UFA
Scandella, 29, $4.0m, pending UFA
Gilmour, 26, $700k, pending UFA
Pilut, 24, $925k, pending RFA
Samuelsson, 19sh, College, unsigned
Risto, 25, $5.4m, 2021-2022, UFA
Montour, 25 $3.5m, pending RFA
Miller, 27, $3.9m, 2012-2022, UFA
Jokiharju, 20, $925k, 2021-2022, RFA
Bogo, 29, $5.2m, pending UFA
Nelson, $817k, pending UFA
Borgen, 22, $864, 2021-2022, RFA



hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 9:31 AM ET
So if Botts is out shopping for 2 F's and for this exercise ise, let's just say 1 is AA; whom would you prefer to include in a realistic deal, again assuming the are looking for Dman...of course, feel free to expand the trade if you want rather than strictly a 1:1
AA is 25 signed at $3m, and is a pending RFA, said to have a tough agent who has had AA hold out in the past.

McCabe, 26, $2.9m, 2020-202, UFA
Scandella, 29, $4.0m, pending UFA
Gilmour, 26, $700k, pending UFA
Pilut, 24, $925k, pending RFA
Samuelsson, 19sh, College, unsigned
Risto, 25, $5.4m, 2021-2022, UFA
Montour, 25 $3.5m, pending RFA
Miller, 27, $3.9m, 2012-2022, UFA
Jokiharju, 20, $925k, 2021-2022, RFA
Bogo, 29, $5.2m, pending UFA
Nelson, $817k, pending UFA
Borgen, 22, $864, 2021-2022, RFA

- IonSabres


i dont know all the cap rules

But could something easy like McCabe a pick/b level prospect for AA and send down Erod be cap compliant?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 9:40 AM ET
I saw this yesterday and was going to post something about it. I mean, we probably all kinda knew this stuff was going on, but I will say that it is concerning on some level. I couldn't care less about marijuana use and feel like the NFL needs to re-evaluate their views on it, but these other drugs need to have some sort of testing and consequences for using it, IMO anyway.
- HonkFortheGoose


One thing I can say is at least NHL players are smart enough to take stuff that is out of their system so getting caught is technically harder.

The issue with marijuana is that as long as its "illegal" it wont be allowed. atleast that has medical benefits where i do not believe coke and molly have any health benefits
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 6 @ 9:47 AM ET
One thing I can say is at least NHL players are smart enough to take stuff that is out of their system so getting caught is technically harder.

The issue with marijuana is that as long as its "illegal" it wont be allowed. atleast that has medical benefits where i do not believe coke and molly have any health benefits

- hubie


I don't disagree with this. It's not something I would ever do recreationally, and I've never had a medical condition that would warrant it's use currently, but I do think that it has it's place from a medical standpoint.

I'd personally rather that they'd be using it more for pain management than the prescription opiods. But maybe that's just me.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 6 @ 9:52 AM ET
So if Botts is out shopping for 2 F's and for this exercise ise, let's just say 1 is AA; whom would you prefer to include in a realistic deal, again assuming the are looking for Dman...of course, feel free to expand the trade if you want rather than strictly a 1:1
AA is 25 signed at $3m, and is a pending RFA, said to have a tough agent who has had AA hold out in the past.

McCabe, 26, $2.9m, 2020-202, UFA
Scandella, 29, $4.0m, pending UFA
Gilmour, 26, $700k, pending UFA
Pilut, 24, $925k, pending RFA
Samuelsson, 19sh, College, unsigned
Risto, 25, $5.4m, 2021-2022, UFA
Montour, 25 $3.5m, pending RFA
Miller, 27, $3.9m, 2012-2022, UFA
Jokiharju, 20, $925k, 2021-2022, RFA
Bogo, 29, $5.2m, pending UFA
Nelson, $817k, pending UFA
Borgen, 22, $864, 2021-2022, RFA

- IonSabres

According to the the posters on the Detroit site it would have to be Cozens. They don't want Risto, Montour seems to much, but I said Montour for AA and a 3rd.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 9:54 AM ET
I don't disagree with this. It's not something I would ever do recreationally, and I've never had a medical condition that would warrant it's use currently, but I do think that it has it's place from a medical standpoint.

I'd personally rather that they'd be using it more for pain management than the prescription opiods. But maybe that's just me.

- HonkFortheGoose


I know a guy in Cali who has UC or one of those intestinal problems and the pain management from marijuana has been in credible. Previously he was on prescription meds which he had a lot of issues coming off of.

Its also helped to an extent my wife with MS but not completely solved the pain part.

I would be for anything that is an alternative to prescription meds which is an issue for a lot of people
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Nov 6 @ 9:56 AM ET
According to the the posters on the Detroit site it would have to be Cozens. They don't want Risto, Montour seems to much, but I said Montour for AA and a 3rd.
- Buff36



Maybe the blockbuster/5 or 6 piece deal is still in place. AA may replace Mantha in the deal, but who knows.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 6 @ 10:14 AM ET
One thing I can say is at least NHL players are smart enough to take stuff that is out of their system so getting caught is technically harder.

The issue with marijuana is that as long as its "illegal" it wont be allowed. atleast that has medical benefits where i do not believe coke and molly have any health benefits

- hubie

It does.
There are quite a few studies out there that show the benefits.

MDMA studies I should say...
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 6 @ 10:25 AM ET
He’s averaging a point per game, brings a physical element, and plays on all special teams (scored a short handed goal last night).

Sharks are getting their $7M worth

- Swedish_Jesus



On the ice, what's the drama really worth?

1.5 ??? Skinner at 9 , all day every day
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 10:26 AM ET
On the ice, what's the drama really worth?

1.5 ??? Skinner at 9 , all day every day

- Boss34


Theres been a lot of guys we love who are A holes off the ice. Hell we could probably have a playoff lineup
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
Theres been a lot of guys we love who are A holes off the ice. Hell we could probably have a playoff lineup
- hubie

I'm never on the ice and also a total a-hole off the ice.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 10:53 AM ET
i dont know all the cap rules

But could something easy like McCabe a pick/b level prospect for AA and send down Erod be cap compliant?

- hubie


I think sending Erod down would save about $1.040m, so yes that would work.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 11:01 AM ET
According to the the posters on the Detroit site it would have to be Cozens. They don't want Risto, Montour seems to much, but I said Montour for AA and a 3rd.
- Buff36


Ya, I was in that thread, whomever proposed that was disillusioned and was called out by another poster as such.
IMO, there is absolutley no way Cozens gets in that conversation...hard pass and hang up the phone as soon as you here "Dyl".

I get they want younger guys to fit their timetable, but they also need some guys to play now...rumor has it Detroit has made it known they are open to AA discussions, so he isn't immovable and his value should be accordingly.
A foup,e posters were fine with Risto, they just have some very loud opinionated posters.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 6 @ 11:07 AM ET
According to the the posters on the Detroit site it would have to be Cozens. They don't want Risto, Montour seems to much, but I said Montour for AA and a 3rd.
- Buff36


Cozens for AA.

It's not even worth a (frank)ing emoji.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 6 @ 11:07 AM ET
Cozens for AA.

It's not even worth a (frank)ing emoji.

- TheSabresTaco

lol right, not sure id even do cozens for larkin
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 6 @ 11:12 AM ET
lol right, not sure id even do cozens for larkin
- hubie


I would.
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